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Do all Brits take (illegal) drugs?


convex 20 | 3,928
9 Oct 2010 #31
I have to say that from all the drugs ive sampled grade A cocaine is the best if you get the good stuff - rocket fuel.....

Yes, yes it is.

Speed is dodgy stuff. We only ever took it when we could't afford coke. It's rough and nasty and a bad comedown. If coke is champagne, speed is Buckfast ; )

The problem with speed is the same as with coke. What else is in it? There was a lot of shake an bake meth going around in the states with lots of nice ingredients that you got in addition to the meth. Not nice, not nice at all.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
9 Oct 2010 #32
Don't knock the Buckie ;) It's made by Benedictine Monks, you know? ;)

Class A drugs? Not for me although the morphine in hospital was a memorable experience.
southern 74 | 7,074
9 Oct 2010 #33
Yes,cocaine causes much more euphoria than amphetamines and has less adverse effects except when taken intravenously.(then it is dangerous).But cocaine sniffers sometimes lose their noses by rupture of diaphragm(the famous golden nose).
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
9 Oct 2010 #34
Class A drugs?

Does class ''A'' guarantee the best quality? :)
OP zetigrek
9 Oct 2010 #35
So, what about in Poland then - what is your impression?

among young ppl (16-30):

- about 90% tried for once mj/hashish
- about 20-30% tried for once "extasy" pills/amphetamine
- less than 10% tried for once lsd or other psychodelics.

These are mine impressions not necceserly true.

Among students talking about someone using drugs doesn't make a fuss or scandal at all. There are lots of people who say firmly "no" to drugs but they tolarate ppl who uses drugs (as its none of their business, and they quite indifferent on this problem).

Older people associates all drugs with heroin and addiction. They don't distinguish between drugs at all and have little knowledge on this subject. Of course most of them never have anything to do with drugs. Whenever they hear word drugs they go panic.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
9 Oct 2010 #36
I wouldn't imagine so, Seanny. This isn't beef we are talking about :)
southern 74 | 7,074
9 Oct 2010 #37
class ''A''

Who calls them class A?The junkies?
People who become alcoholics in Poland would have become heroin addicts in Greece.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
9 Oct 2010 #38
other psychodelics.

Are magic mushrooms not popular here?
They grow here.
Wroclaw Boy
9 Oct 2010 #39
Ecstacy pills form the 90's, come on they blew your head off:

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=azwXuTIEyto

A drug fueled party, my first.

Anybody remember snowballs? 20,000 ravers off their heads, ecstacy ruled in those days and the music.......
Teffle 22 | 1,319
9 Oct 2010 #40
Don't knock the Buckie ;)

Well a Scot never would eh? ; )

Buckfast abuse/intake/consequences in certain areas in Scotland is supposedly notorious.

Dunno how much of this is Daily Mail (or the Scottish equivalent) hysteria or what though?!

Edit: Just saw your post Zeti - basically sounds much the same as here (and most of western Europe) then.

I find this to be a general difference between Poland and Ireland/Britain and I would not just put it down to old people either.

Not sure what you mean Sean?
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
9 Oct 2010 #41
I find this to be a general difference between Poland and Ireland/Britain and I would not just put it down to old people either.
OP zetigrek
9 Oct 2010 #42
Also the british air fotce used amphetamine in... chocolate! Niejaka czekolada witaminizowana ;)
Hitler was taking ephedrine in injection.

I heard that Kennedy was addicted amphetamine user (or something similar)
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
9 Oct 2010 #43
Ecstacy pills form the 90's,

That's a point, I don't think Poland went through the rave scene like we did.

In Dublin, it went from everyone locked on flaggins of cider knocking the heads off each other to raves and everyone dancing and hugs
Teffle 22 | 1,319
9 Oct 2010 #44
I heard that Kennedy was addicted amphetamine user (or something similar)

Many were in those days Zeti - wasn't illegal for ages. You could get it like you can valium these days and it's potential for addiction wasn't fully realised. Wasn't regarded as a big deal.
jonni 16 | 2,481
9 Oct 2010 #45
Amphetamine was first invented in Germany and used by Waffen SS with the blessings of Hitler

It was invented in the 19th Century by a Romanian chemist and was also used by the US and UK during the last war. During the first war, it was on sale in decorative packets to mail to family members in the army.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
9 Oct 2010 #46
Buckie is legal :) :)

Laced speed is common in Aberdeen :( :( When you see people on it, it can make you cringe.
OP zetigrek
9 Oct 2010 #47
But cocaine sniffers sometimes lose their noses by rupture of diaphragm(the famous golden nose).

just like amphetamine users.

Ecstacy pills form the 90's, come on they blew your head off:

I also was atending oldschool parties ;)
Whole club was on e-pills
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
9 Oct 2010 #48
Laced

The impurity of street drugs is one of the best arguments for decriminalisation.
southern 74 | 7,074
9 Oct 2010 #49
that Kennedy was addicted amphetamine user (

For sure the british prime minister who ordered the invasion in Suez was.

Now the modern combat drugs are the anesthetics because they make invulnerable to pain.Iraqi insurgents in Faluza had taken anesthetics and bullets did not make them fall they kept standing up like zombies.
jonni 16 | 2,481
9 Oct 2010 #50
For sure the british prime minister who ordered the invasion in Suez was.

Benzedrine actually. Very common in those days.
convex 20 | 3,928
9 Oct 2010 #51
Now the modern combat drugs are the anesthetics because they make invulnerable to pain.Iraqi insurgents in Faluza had taken anesthetics and bullets did not make them fall they kept standing up like zombies.

Khat in Somalia...
OP zetigrek
9 Oct 2010 #52
That's a point, I don't think Poland went through the rave scene like we did.

Not true, not true. We in łódź have really strong rave scene but in the years 1995-2005
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
9 Oct 2010 #53
Khat

Khat's a sedative or mild drug, no?, i don't think it would be good for armies, PCP (angel dust) on the other hand... make a guy run through a brick wall.

Not true, not true. We in łódź have really strong rave scene but in the years 1995-2005

Okay, I did know it was popular here, like in Ireland.
Did people take ecstasy when you went?
convex 20 | 3,928
9 Oct 2010 #54
Khat's a seditive

khat is opposite of a sedative :)
Seanus 15 | 19,672
9 Oct 2010 #55
Good point, Seanny :) Again, we trust people to be responsible with so many things. To throw away wrapping papers, to honour agreements and not be OTT with drugs. Even if I was that way inclined, I wouldn't trust the vendors. They should be the guinea pigs for any potentially harmful new drugs.
jonni 16 | 2,481
9 Oct 2010 #56
Khat's a seditive

If anything, Khat's a mild stimulant, but I agree it wouldn't be great for an army; you have to chew it for a hell of a long time to get much effect. Ephedrine (legal in Norway, by the way) would be a better choice.
OP zetigrek
9 Oct 2010 #57
Did people take ecstasy when you went?

Of course



It was a little bit more cheesy music than acid house at early 90s/late 80s. But it was really popular in £ódź (hardcore breaks, happy hardcore). Also the drum and base scene was strong.
southern 74 | 7,074
9 Oct 2010 #58
Benzedrine actually. Very common in those days.

For sure it influenced his decision because these drugs make someone impulsive.Maybe Hitler was affected too and took too many rushed aggressive decisions.Pilots who bombed heavily civilians in Iraq told the jury they did it because army amphetamines caused them increased combat state and impulsivity.
jonni 16 | 2,481
9 Oct 2010 #59
For sure it influenced his decision because these drugs make someone impulsive

Unlikely. The alliance with France and the United States may have, though. ;-)

.Maybe Hitler was affected too and took too many rushed aggressive decisions.

Some historians believe that the cocktail of drugs he was taking towards the end of the war had an effect on his decision-making.
southern 74 | 7,074
9 Oct 2010 #60
I watched in a documentary that it was likely.I am also not sure how many decisions Churchill took in a drunk state.


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