Poland in photo riddles - part 2

I wondered that too.

There's also the Bystrzyca

Nope. Another clue...

This river is sometimes compared to the Jordan by local inhabitants, particularly in song.

Not the Olza? I didn't think that was a tributary of the Oder.

There's a Lenin connection too, with that area...

Bingo! Now the place, if you will ;)

(yep, it's a tributary of the Oder - begins near the village of Olza, near Chałupki)

The only place I really associate with Lenin (apart from Krakow) is Poronin, and that's not near there.

There were Lenin statues in Ciesyn and Bielsko, however the picture isn't either of those.

Probably near Cieszyn though...

I'm definitely not giving you any more clues!

(I will say - you're thinking in the wrong way about the Lenin clue)

There's the Szlak Lenina, however I didn't think that went anywhere near there. Fits in with your 'all roads lead from Lenin' clue though.

Well, now you're thinking in the right direction, but no, definitely nothing to do with the Szlak Lenina.

You're going to kick yourself when you figure it out :D

Actually I think he might be worse ;D


Is it part of some sort of display? Is it a rock or stone? Thanks for the link about the grom selection, very interesting. I've always wanted to go to Bieszczady. I've been invited to stay in the area a couple of times now by people I know who live there, so I really must go at some point.


I see you've been reading Jan Kubisz.......
I can't get the exact place, too many towns and villages to pick e.g Godów, Kaczyce, and I can't get the Lenin connection either :(

I'm trying to be awful :D


Naturally ;) The "Freedom and Friendship" and "I'm so predictable" clues should more or less guide you to the exact location. ;)

Oh sod it, one more clue:

From where I stand, men and women once paid their dues.

Now that's the name of a certain well-known structure there, somewhere beginning with C. And people did once pay a certain kind of dues on it ...

If I'm right, I'll not say any more.

There are not-quite-twin structures in this case. Which one is it? ;)

The Lenin reference suggests more freedom than friendship ;-)

Bingo!

It's taken from Most Wolności looking south - more or less exactly this: google.com/maps/@49.7432592,18.6291063,3a,15y,192.77h,92.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS5Kl2ZoOD2nE78XLcgJM9w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'll explain the clues:

1. The Olza is mentioned in the anthem of Cieszyn Silesia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%82yniesz_Olzo_po_dolinie - the first line of the anthem contains the words "Płyniesz, Olzo, po dolinie," - You flow, Olza, down the valley. - or from my clue, in this narrow valley in which the river flows. It's pretty much the defining symbol of local Poles in that area on both sides of the current border, and the name of the region on the Czech side - Zaolzie - "beyond the Olza" - so it's very much in the local consciousness of the people, way more than other rivers.

2. All roads lead from Lenin - I was proud of this one. The current ul. Strzelnicza - which leads onto ul. Wolności in Český Těšín used to be called ul. Lenina, and back then, Most Wolności was a one way street for entry into Poland (Most Przyjaźni was for entry into Czechoslovakia). So - all roads did indeed lead from Lenin, as this was a major border crossing between Czechoslovakia and Poland.

3. Being predictable - several previous pictures featured border crossings or border towns, and the last one was also of a border bridge.

4. Freedom and Friendship, the two most important aspects of this society - a direct reference to Most Wolności and Most Przyjaźni. I thought for sure that anyone looking at a map of the Olza would see the two bridges called that ;)

5. This river is sometimes compared to the Jordan by local inhabitants, particularly in song. - a reference to Jan Kubisz and especially Płyniesz, Olzo, po dolinie.

6. From where I stand, men and women once paid their dues. - a reference to the customs duties being collected on the bridge in the past.

That was enjoyable :D It's particularly nice to make clues which simply can't be googled without knowledge of Polish history, culture and language.

Here's an easier one. It's close to two ladies. Which two?

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@jon357

Lesniewo.

My next riddle:

You need to go next door to pick up your identity card.

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No.

Who are the two ladies...

I know that building; it's a railway station.

In Western Poland.

Oh, OK ;D In all seriousness, though, I am impressed, actually :) I'm even more impressed with jon357 solving your riddle (I'd have to live in that area to know all of this, I suppose)! Chemikiem was right on both accounts: that was one nightmare riddle and it looks like you're worse than pawian ;D


Yes, it is! :)


Kind of... but not quite. It's something more :)


You're welcome :) What's interesting about Bieszczady is not only the unspoiled, wild nature part, remoteness, but also the history - there are ruins scuttered around the area, remnants of cemeteries, Orthodox churches, road signs for villages that don't exist anymore... All of this put together makes those mountains quite mysterious, somewhat magical, I guess :) That's cool that you've been invited by the locals - if I were you, I'd definitely take that opportunity and visit!

@jon357, isn't that the canal lock in Leśniewo Górne? Are those "two ladies" rivers?

@delph, I don't know this building, all I can say is that it does look Western... Is it a railway station, as jon357 wrote?

It's near Leśniewo, however the key is the complex it's part of. This is a clue to the names of the two ladies (who aren't rivers).

Yes it is..... part of the canal structure the Prussians/Germans tried to build!
I have no idea about the two sisters though.....

Ah, so the riddle is about the names of the "two ladies" and not about the canal lock in the photo?

It is indeed. Remember that I'm very predictable :P


I admit to having a general love for Zaolzie, as there's such a unique culture there. Cieszyn is easily one of my favourite places in Poland too, and I've spent hours just wandering around the city on a warm summer day.

@Paulina
Yes, however they're very connected.

Is it in the Silesia region near the border?


Do you mean that the "two ladies" and the Masurian Canal are very connected?

This time, no :D

West met East here, the result of a carving knife used repeatedly.

It is and it was a great riddle, top marks to Jon for solving that! I also think that without knowledge of that specific area it would be very hard to solve. I know bits about the area because of my interest in Stalag VIIIB Teschen. Another area on my list to see at some point.


It's not the lakes is it? Mamry and Rydzówka?


It would be! I'll have to think some more about this one.


I'm also wondering if you have a train obsession as well as one with border crossings!.The station is at Nowe Skalmierzyce. 'New' Skalmierzyce was a customs post on the border and adjoins Skalmierzyce. The historic square 'border' was created in the area surrounding the town entrance from Kalisz. The border crossing was between Russian-controlled congress land and Prussia.

I was thinking about the lakes too, but "Mamry" isn't of feminine gender, so I don't know...

@jon357, those "two ladies" aren't Poland and Russia by any chance?

@delph, this is a nice looking building, btw :)

So what gender is "Mamry"?