Rumor about racism - will I be fine in Poland as a black International student from Africa?

Deport poor unskilled foreigners? An excellent proposal.

I knew you'd like it, also how are old people contributing to society, they're a drain on society too and the cripples, ditch the whole lot, eh RN?

Anyone who is unemployed or unemployable or just anyone who wants a better life but doesn't have the inherited money you have?
Feck it, why don't you throw everyone out of Ireland and you can play in your sand box on your own?

if people still behave bad in a country that is very friendly to them, it's not very difficult to see where the problem lies. don't you think?

So you call the CBS (Central Bureau of Statistics.) an unreliable source? I promise I will respond to this later on.


What kind of jobs? (I can tell you what kind of jobs, because I'm doing the same jobs. No contracts. Temporary. Sometimes even below minimum wage.) Benefits? You can't get benefits here unless you're 27 years old. Houses? Don't make me laugh! A flat maybe.


Oh really? I happen to know for a fact that everyone gets the same punishments for the same crimes here. (Just like in every other country.) Do you honestly think our government prefers criminals to working people?


Ofcourse, because they realize that poverty-related issues are the main reason behind crime, and it's wrong to deny someone a job because his last name doesn't sound too Dutch.


Can you prove this? Did you know that 80% of the Moroccan girls here doesn't wear a headscarf or any other religious symbols? I've shown you guys a few pictures yesterday, but ofcourse you couldn't reply to any of that. (How convenient!)


I can when employers systematically refuse people a job. Poverty is the main reason behind crime. Everybody knows that. Go ahead, ask some smart people at your local University who have studied Sociology.


The only problem I see is Islam being an extremely intolerant belief. You should learn to see the difference between a group of people and a religion, because not every Arabian is a Muslim, or wants to be one.


Why don't you accept a million Dutch people in your country? I'm sure everybody will complain about them, because they aren't going to be good Catholics, I can promise you that much! About multiculturalism? Well, for your information: Poland has a different culture from Holland, but you guys are also welcome here.

;)

Apparently, this is the truth. And, unlike our so-enlightened SeanBM, you said this without any disparagement. Go figure.

Still, to demonstrate that there is no ill-will on my part, I share with SeanBM and all others a Postcard From Zimbabwe:

"When the country changed from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, we were very excited," one man, Kizita, told me in a village of mud-walled huts near this town in western Zimbabwe. "But we didn't realize the ones we chased away were better and the ones we put in power would oppress us."

"It would have been better if whites had continued to rule because the money would have continued to come," added a neighbor, a 58-year-old farmer named Isaac. "It was better under Rhodesia. Then we could get jobs. Things were cheaper in stores. Now we have no money, no food."

nytimes.com/2010/04/08/opinion/08kristof.html

What do U think abou us - polish people? Are u feeling good here? do u have any problems with respect from our polish side?

We will live in Poland - simply because we can - and to h@ll with your long-standing traditions and culture. :/

I have been to Zimbabwe.
You seem to talk out of your arse, where did I say Zimbabwe was a good place under Robert Mugabe's dictatorship?
Or am I the guy who criticised the said leader for thinking that HIV was not linked to AIDS?

And I can find people to tell you that they were better off in the soviet Union, so what?

I say you are talking out of your arse because you are making statements as if I have something against them, if you can't follow what is being said I recommend you stop posting.

I asked you do you support Apartheid, you know the South African thing, am I to take it that you do or would if it still existed?


So you are going to move here to Poland and disrespect the long-standing traditions and culture?

Ok, i will remember this. ;)


I remember a lot of them working in the public service. Not because they were qualified but because their ethnic background and being able to write their names was enough to get the job. The police even lowered the standards for officers just to make sure enough immigrants could qualify. And no contracts is really BS. Working below minimum wage is not possible unless they are illegal.

I would like to reply to your other points but i don't think this discussion should be about the Netherlands.

But one thing i have to react to:


It isn't. And even if it was, there's not enough poverty in your country to justify all these robberies. Some groups simply have too many bad apples. Try to accept that the world isn't fair, you will become a realist one day.

Whites should have never went into the hellhole that is africa. A fatal error.

Let's make a deal with South Africa and Zimbabwe...they can send back the whites to Europe in return for ... ;)

And Poles never should have went to Ireland, right?

Well if we are going to talk about all the things that shouldn't have happened, we should start with your birth.

No, but there's enough poverty in your country, so you can tell that to the Polish guys who pointed a gun to my head. I was done working my nightshift, I walked home at 3:00, and I had no money on me. These two clowns saw me walking alone, and came out of the park and threatened me with a gun when they got close, while talking some gibberish about money which was supposed to sound like English. They got nothing from me. It's been reported in our local newspaper aswell, so don't tell me I'm lying again, unless you want me to dig up that article aswell.


Tell me something new? I'm as real as they come these days. I doubt you are. (Have you ever joined the army, since you're being such a patriot?) About reality, the Polish are the undisputed champions of burglary and robbery here. That's a fact. I know you hate to hear it, but it's true. I will show you all the figures after dinner.

:)

*doesn't believe Jarnowa is a productive immigrant in Poland*

SeanBM, to briefly answer your question: No, I do not - I didn't then, I don't now.


If I'm understanding this correctly, some scientists (and pundits) do not believe in this link.
If there is debate within the scientific community, then a lay opinion is to be regarded, no?


To be fair, what we (and others) are now discussing is a bit off the OP's original question.
Will s/he "be fine"? In my opinion, yes, of course. And that speaks to the people of Poland.

Still, should the concerns of those who feel alien to immigration be ignored? Of course not.

I'm the product of a multicultural, multi-religious (and, some might add, multiracial) family.
This fact alone does not preclude me from being critical of those - even against "my own".

Am I biased? To the extent I am human, yes. IMO, anyone claiming otherwise is in denial.

Like I said, I'm as sympathetic as the next guy. It's those that might exploit this I detest
(and no, I am not addressing this to anyone here on the forum - I welcome the debates).

Again, my apologies to you if I misinterpreted anything you said. Like I said, I like debate.

:)

These people are idiots, it is not a debate in the scientific community, it is a conspiracy theory.
HIV is linked to AIDS not poverty.
You should know that, no?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Africa#Causes

This kind of misinformation kills people.


Agreed.


No problem, I will remember in the future your level headed words and I will listen more attentively.

A great idea.


Not in such numbers, no. I have adjusted my opinion on mass immigration from eastern europe. Give me ten poles instead of one black.

Will I be fine in Poland as a black International student from African?

I imagine you be fine: just keep whuj in your pants.

I am more productive than the average moroccan or black in W-Europe.


I'm sorry to hear this. But how do you know they were Polish? And don't get me wrong...i don't deny that there are a Polish robbers, of course there are. But unless things have dramatically changed since summer last year (when i left the multicultural sh#thole Rotterdam), Polish robberies are nothing compared to those committed by moroccans and blacks.


Ok, i'm looking forward to your "evidence" that Poles are far more criminal than 3rd world immigrants.

So now it's the blacks who will feel the brunt of the keyboard warrior troll that we know as RevokeNice, why the change of heart? Did you find other racist asses on here that you feel a kindred spirit with?

Maybe you'll leave this forum for southafricanforums.com, who knows? who cares?

Ability to change is a good thing, I shouldn't really slag you off for it but because you are such an utterly despicable sleeveen, I can't help think you are playing to the crowd, here you are on a Polish forum and you've had a change of heart, I would put my money on you being a coward.

So what do you do in Poland? Considering you can't speak Polish ,let alone fluently, the chances you have a good job are minimal.

No.


The blacks, arabs, and muslims are a danger to not just my country, but to all of europe. These lads have as much interest in integrating as I do in joining the Orange Order, i.e. none. They view whites as oppressors, evil, and people who need to be eradicated. All the while, they reside on european soil. They enemy is not just at the gates, he controls them.

The white man is to be eradicated. That might sound mad. But treat my statement as fact and go about your daily business for two weeks. You will soon realise I am right.

In the future, my grandchildren will live on a reservation, similar to the Native Indians and Abos in the New World. Mass immigration from tin pot third world nations must cease. If you diversity darlings want to help these "poor" people, may I suggest you offer your services to the tens of thousands of charities operating in these hellholes.

I am a generous man. I will give my fellow citizen a score if I see him on the street. But I am fed up giving money to the 3rd world. Cant feed 'em, dont breed 'em.

General truth here.. but the sky is not falling just yet.. Of course, as I'm kicking cans down Yankee alleys I cannot preach to the European.

You and me both, Pete. I think RevokeNice is spot-on with all he has said in his last post.
As much as I may not like it, I see it more and more by the day here in USA - in our face!

Well my man, I think the wheels are in motion for a change and it's probably due time we looked after ourselves... not only that, produced for ourselves, relied on ourselves.. instead of some Wall Street clown. It's not such a hard concept really.

No, it isn't. But, simple doesn't make for easy.

No.. they aren't easy but painful times are necessary and often a benison at the end of the day.

Americans used to make things.. work with their hands.. it wasn't such a stigma. The pride is slowly starting to resurface.

Globalization is a delusion touted by economics professors and bankers.

I was a diversity darling, rich. When I started college and worked full time. My elder and wiser Irish work colleagues would make racial remarks and I woud look at them with scorn. We are Irish, we were racially abused too. Then I got to know our recently arrived cultural enrichers. Boy, was I naive. 3rd worlders dont just want to live amongst us. They want to eradicate us and take what is ours.

Disagree? I suggest you spend a night out in a predominantly 3rd world immigrant area. Make sure your health insurance is up to date.

European culture cannot be "enriched". It cannot be eradicated. Whites protest for the white whale and his impending extinction. Why is it racist to point out that white males face impending extinction? Space travel, radios, cars, open heart surgery, vaccinations, the internet, cds, dvds, fashion, painting art, music, literature. Now tell where the main movers in these spheres are from? What colour are they? What sex are they? Pasteur, Da Vinci, Yeats, Dante, Bernard, Daimler, Dunlop, Marconi, Shakespear, Mozart, Beethoven, Orwell, Oppenheimer, Copernicus, Marie Curie, Gallileo, the Beatles, the Stones, Elvis. Not to mention demcoracy, bill of rights, jury trials, the UN, limited companies. I could go on and on. Now compare that to the negroes. Get the picture.....

Yep caucasians have realllly messed up. We deserve to die out.

IMO, you have really hit the nail on the head with everything you have said here, Pete.

I've always said that America needs to experience a bit of hardship to breed character.

As strange as it sounds, it is this exact thing that I admire in those of Europe and Asia.

I only hope that Americans are ready. I wasn't sure at one time, but now I am more so.


Absolutely. The Ultimate in Litmus Tests. In USA, Third World Glory is as close as one's nearest 'Urban Center'.


As much as you may be disparaged for having said so, the truth is that it's happening now, as we all debate it.

Will I be fine in Poland as a black International student from Africa? In Poland? Yes. In Detroit, MI? Probably NO.

More thoughts to follow...

As I said, you are a coward and are playing to the crowd.
You're hatred for Polish people has turned in to hatred for Africans, what do you want a congratulations? You are just a Nouveau riche striapach.


Paranoid, delusional and hateful to be more precise.
You should stop taking cocaine.


I've heard that before: "they breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin".