Rumor about racism - will I be fine in Poland as a black International student from Africa?

You mean ,never?

Has nothing to do with race, but the type of person. People who come over and bust their ass and integrate, I'd be happy to call them neighbor. I would gladly trade some of worthless folks around here for them.

Even if they are integrated, they are still a major problem. Welfare benefits, stealing jobs, stealing women, etc.

I posted a un report about Cameroonese of which 90% are unfaithfull to their partner. You want such a guy as your neighbour when you are working and your wife is at home?

So 99.2% of Africa is non-white, yet there are absolutely no "calls" from the usual "liberals" for more multiculturalism in Africa! If multiculturalism "improves" Europe, then why doesn't it "improve "Africa?

Also, a significant proportion of those whites you mention above are likely to live in the RSA. Whereas here in the UK, we've probably got close to 7.5 million non-whites in a population of only 61 MILLION! I rest my case.


I think we would be hard-pushed to find anywhere in Europe where blacks are being slaughtered and thrown off their land because it's "white land". The same cannot be said about certain African countries where whites have settled, unfortunately.

Give it a little time.... :-)

Thats why there's a criteria for getting into parliament or even becoming a Minister - these people are more sensible and reasonable than the ordinary - que jarnowa. Thats why they're entrusted with decision making and policy implementations. Now we all know what the UN stands for.

We all have dreams, there's nothing wrong with having this dream Jarnowa, unfortunately a dream is what it is - just a dream. Reality does bite though, does it?


Thats the whole point - People are here legitimately - Study, work, settle etc! I see your planes leaving for Africa full of tourists and expats!


I really dont give a rat's ass what your reasons were - you're a foreigner and i repeat NOT POLISH! You would stand a chance to be listened to if you protested in your OWN country. Now you're being so mouthy abt foreigners and yet you're just one of them. Low IQ? thats very irrelevant! i know who i am, the question is, Do you know who you're?


Ofcos, but thats what it is anyway! Law or no Law - European companies employee more indigenous folks than foreigners, i would say abt 75% never mind 51%. The whole point is Local people have to be considered for jobs first. Its different in SA simply b'se blacks are the majority but till that employment law was passed, they're hardly considered for jobs.

Like i said, it's one of the challenges that Africa as a continent faces b'se its home to 3 human races. Here in Europe it's just no brainer! I insist, It's not abt Race, It's abt nationality. As a European, you wont have the same rights as a white African in Africa, End of!


This is a social issue - Why do you expect your neighbour to sort out your household problems. If you're man enough then this shouldnt happen really. If and if you Looked after your missus properly, i doubt she would go looking over your neighbours' fences. And again your personal failure is always going to be someone else's fault. very typical!


Crime rate is not a bespoke issue to the poorer countries per say. It's very simple, Unemployment rate is relative to crime rate and this applies all over the world. Look at whats happening in Greece and Spain at the moment. So as soon as the local people get into active working - have people like convex adopt a broader investement mindset, then crime rate will reciprocate.

It's not a neutral organisation, it's a socialist pro-immigration institute. When EU would close the borders for muslims or 3rd world people in general, the UN will cry about a violation of human rights, not giving a sh#t about people in Europe who have to suffer the problems caused by 3rd world immigrants. I can't take them seriously.


I was talking about those who are illegal even according to the current left-wing immigration laws. It says a lot about you that you don't want these illegals to be deported to their own countries.


Migrating between EU countries is completely different because inner EU borders are open which is supported by a large majority of European people, unlike 3rd world migration to EU.


So even if the facts show that some groups are more criminal (see W-Europe crime statistics) or have looser sexual values and more std's (source: UN reports) you still point the finger to people who don't want to welcome these people in their territory? You clown! :D

So tell us the truth, you were dumped by a girl for an African fella and you are venting your sexual frustrations on these forums, right?



She wasn't you twit.


Because you are an immigrant living in Poland.


Link?

It's more interesting why you always behave like an ostrich when we are talking about 3rd world immigrants. You really don't see that crime, sexual harrassment, misuse of social securirty, violence etc. have increased in every country that was so stupid to let in more than a few 3rd world immigrants?


You know i'm telling the truth, so i don't see a point in googling them.

No link?
You will have to excuse me if I don't take your word for it.

Maybe you can answer the same question that i asked your black brotha paulinska:

You haven't shown that.


Than who, Southern?


How would a poor person, with little education know about STDs?


You are an immigrant living in Poland, you are not even Slavic.
You are here because of the E.U., it's not a white or black thing, it's not even a Europe thing, it's an E.U. thang.

I am also an immigrant :)

I know you can only talk about races and your hatred for them, so I am gonna stop this chat for tonight.

why don't you just go out and get yourself a nice woman instead of complaining all the time, it's a turn off you know.

Ive given you the links before. America-Holland-GB-Ireland, the result is still the same. Non-whites on top.

On top of what?

Crime stats and unemployment figures.

By googling just 1 minute i already found a very interesting result. This one is for Netherlands but the situation for Belgium and other countries in Western Europe is very similar:


source: english.justitie.nl/currenttopics/pressreleases/archives2007/investiga tion-ethnicity-and-types-of-crime.aspx?cp=35&cs=1578&action=0


In Africa, thanks to Western aid, condoms are free or very cheap and everyone is educated about STD's. So i'm sure it's not the education or the lack of condoms, it's choosing to do risky things like having unprotected (anal) sex, cheating on their partners, animal sex.


Unfortunately not, but i'm European so i have more rights to live in Europe than any person from ME or Africa.

Are you under the delusion that I read every bit of crap you write?
You are a manipulator, do a day's work and get back to us.


And just out of curiosity, do you think they include Poland when they talk about Eastern Europeans?


Rubbish.


You do have a fertile imagination. Sure you're not just missing your girlfriend who dumped you for an African fella?

Now this is ridiculous. Every time i mentioned the ugly facts about some groups, you denied it and accused me of racism or you're asked for links.

Now that i've given reliable evidence, you see that you failed and instead of admitting and apologizing, all you can do is start talking about the only white group that is mentioned in this report.

I don't owe you an apology, I asked for links and now I am asking you about the information you provided, you twit.

So, you cannot be bothered...


by the very thing you ask for.


Rubbish?

Britain sends South Africa 42m condoms in HIV fight before World Cup
Britain is to give 42m condoms to South Africa in response to a request for an extra billion as part of an HIV prevention drive before the World Cup, the government will announce today.

The request for British help in stockpiling sufficient condoms for the expected influx of thousands of football supporters in three months' time was made during President Jacob Zuma's recent visit to the UK to meet the Queen.

guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/09/condoms-south-africa-world-cup

HIV and AIDS in Africa
Condoms play a key role in preventing HIV infection around the world. In sub-Saharan Africa, most countries have seen an increase in condom use in recent years. In studies carried out between 2001 and 2005, eight out of eleven countries in sub-Saharan Africa reported an increase in condom use.

The distribution of condoms to countries in sub-Saharan Africa has also increased: in 2004 the number of condoms provided to this region by donors was the equivalent of 10 for every man,8 compared to 4.6 for every man in 2001.

avert.org/hiv-aids-africa.htm

Can't be bothered going through all of his posts? no I can't, can you?


How do I owe him an apology?


Show me that everyone is educated about STDs in Africa.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thabo_Mbeki#AIDS

And that's the president, so you are telling me that all the people of Africa are educated about STDs? pull the other one, you can ship as many condoms as you like, it won't make a blind bit of difference without education.

Jarnowa: Yes, in comparison the crime rates of the Moroccan and Antillian group are procentually higher than the crime rates of the Dutch group. But! We're talking about small groups of people here. I live in Holland, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that one of the ugly facts is also that the Polish are the largest group of immigrants, who also happen to have the highest crime rates of all the other groups when it comes to burglary and robbery. Eastern Europeans (Not only the Polish!) are also infamous here for women-trafficking, and they share this position with Arabians.

Spare me your links from the homepage of our justice department, because I can give you incredibly detailed graphics and statistics, along with the exact numbers of which nationalities, and an exact description of which crimes have been committed by whom from the CBS. (Central Bureau of Statistics.)

So if you wish to talk about the truth, then you shouldn't point your finger at one group in particular, but be prepared to look into a mirror aswell. And don't get me wrong, I can admit to criticism about the Dutch aswell if it's truthful. That said, I really hope you'll see that there are usually two sides to every story, because Arabians and Antillians aren't always treated right here, which basically means they get humiliated in public very often, and that they won't be able to get a job if it's up to a lot of people.

If they can get a job, it's usually a job no one else wants to do. Even when they have better qualifications. How would you feel if you were treated like that? Would you feel like being a part of our society? Would you feel appreciated here? Would you feel respected? I don't think so. I think you'd feel like a slave, disrespected, and I think you'd be angry at all the people who treat you like that. Nothing good will come of that. Bad apples? Every group of people has a few bad apples, and when certain groups of people have more bad apples than other groups, it's time to ask yourself why, because this usually means there's a reason.

;)

Everybody? Who's RESPONSIBILITY is that? The West's? You mean, Africans are not capable of taking care of themselves?

And, what to make of the rampant incidence of HIV/AIDS among Blacks in the West? I dare say this is a BEHAVIORAL ISSUE:

Black Americans account for more HIV and AIDS cases, people estimated to be living with AIDS, and HIV-related deaths than any other racial/ethnic group in the U.S. Today, Black Americans make up about 12 percent of the U.S. population, but account for half of all new AIDS cases. And, despite medical advances which have sharply reduced HIV-related mortality rates for all racial/ethnic groups, HIV death rates are still significantly higher for Black Americans than other groups.

kff.org/hivaids/7660.cfm

Apparently, no matter how much time, effort and money is expended, there is no helping those who cannot help themselves.

Look, I'm just as compassionate as the next guy, but this line of thinking can only lead to increased dependency and liability.

What are you talking about?
Where did I say it was the West's responsibility? you're talking about or to someone else there.


What line of thinking? what are you talking about?

AIDs has risen by 400% in Ireland over the last decade, due to mass immigration from sub saharan africa. Black Africans make up just 1% of the population, but 10% of the prison population. Black africans are 1200% more likely to be on welfare, when compared to their Irish counterparts.

The joys of "diversity", "vibrancy", and "enrichment".

Still, diversity darlings such as yourself claim that "we need these people".

Admittedly, I'm coming into this conversation a bit late (and following a new thread can be difficult). I think I understand now what you were saying.

To be fair, I believe jarnowa's point was that efforts by the West are laudable - despite the behavioral patterns of some peoples (regardless of race):

South Africa was once a crown jewel of Africa (pun intended) - that is, before the racist, Marxist ANC took the helm from those 'evil-doer' Apartheidists.

Maybe burglary, but i'm sure moroccans and blacks are still the nr. 1 when it comes to street/home/shop robberies. So i'm sure you can't give us a reliable source.

I lived in Rotterdam for 6-7 years and i know that Arabs and Antillians do get a lot of help finding jobs, benefits and houses. Even when they are criminal they can count on help from government and they hardly get punished for crimes. Goverment is only tough on companies who refuse them jobs. And if a muslim girl decides to wear islamic clothes when the job doesn't allow for that, she will get huge financial compensation if she gets fired. Racism in Netherlands is even lower than in Belgium, so all in all you really can't blame society for the high crime rates among them.

And my point is, given the fact that 3rd world immigrants are even a major problem in countries that treat them very well, you know that the root cause of the problem is the immigrants and not society.

If you think about this, do you really want Poland to be the next country to suffer from multiculturalism?

So nothing no? just more finger pointing and placing blame, well done.
Unfortunately, my brain deficient compadre, it has nothing to do with me NOT saying it is the West's responsibility for the lack of education of African countries about STDs.


Why did you quote me?
I really don't understand what you are trying to say.


Without Apartheid there would be no ANC, it is an unfortunate by-product.
Or are you defending apartheid?


Link?
Again you'll have to excuse me for not taking your word for it.

There is no point in giving more evidence because you simply ignore everything that doesn't fit your world view.

richasis: you are right. :)

Explain this.


or perhaps because the evidence you posted points the finger at Eastern Europeans, which you happily over look.

I tell you what, why don't we just deport all the poor people, eh RN, you can then tell us all about how much your watch is worth, unfortunately you'll probably die from a toilet related virus because according to you there'll be noone to clean your toilet.

Poor people do desperate things, it's not news, it is not even new and it has happened to practically ever people at some stage throughout their history.