Are Polish Christians here?

I now feel like a Trump. Tries to explain obvious things that are clear to all but irrational reasons make it look like mud to you.

@jon357, frankly, you should take in account possibility that you are stupid.

Spot On, Crow!

We Slavs (ie Sarmats) must arrange things as it suits to us in our world. In our world Christ as true God of love, goes hand in hand with Svetovid that is true aspect of ancestors and human-nature relationship.

Those who in the name of Christ, because of their greed, shed blood of those who loved Svetovid betrayed Christ.

So, you Poles, Russians and all other Slavs needs to follow Serbians and return to ancient custom that is celebration of family SLAVA in its Christianize form. It will unite us all no matter which Christian provenience we belong in particular. That is a way even for our Slavic Muslims and no matter other faith. Return to the path of ancestors is the only way.

Most people here in Poland would disagree with that assertion...


And that one.

Of course. Their ancestors were defeated and subjugated by Rome (like all Slavic/Sarmat ancestors). Fear was imposed on people. Indoctrination for centuries. Freedom takes time, among other things. We have to heal.


Then what is the alternative? The opposite to it? To return to Latin American ancestors so Vatican is happy and have its multi soup to rule?

Much better to return to our own ancestors, be on its own and have tolerance as way of coexistence with others. As our ancestors did. They tolerated, didn`t tend to mix at any cost.

Why 'return to ancestors'?

That is the path we know. The rest is unknown. Our ancestors are the only god we are certain gave life to us. Other gods, we seek together with our ancestors in us.

As long as we live, our ancestors live in us. With them we always have a god is us, we are godly creatures and we are gods ourselves.

Who's 'we' and how would you 'know' such a path.


Few here would agree with that.

No important you are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Muslim or whatever religion Slav (Sarmat), you should celebrate SLAVA as did your ancestors >>>>

Important about SLAVA custom Serbians preserved from the days of old faith >

* A tradition that dates from the old days before Slavs accepted Christianity. Its remembrance of old pagan gods in a Chritizanize form. Patron (local) deity every Slavic house (clan) had Serbians turned into Christian Saints. Slava is one of the most important characteristics of Serbian tradition and it is even inscribed in UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists.

* If a Serb invites you to come to his home for Slava, consider self an honored

* The Slava is celebrated annually and it is transferred from generation to generation. It is meant to be celebrated at home, gathering family and friends in one place. Serbs use Slava as a great opportunity to meet and get together

* Sons inherit the patron saint from their fathers and women from their husbands.

* There are four elements that need to be on the table during Slava and those elements are Slava cake, candle, red wine and cooked wheat. People drink wine, beer, and rakija and they drink a lot.

* During his Slava, a host/master, man of house is not allowed to sit until midnight. He must serve his guests on his legs, standing and walking. Its to honor his ancestors that, as it is believed while he stands sit on his right shoulder and providing protection of the house until the next Slava day (next year)



Slava Cake must include firesteels



firesteels /in Serb. (OCILA - meaning `from fathers`)/ that are ancestral symbol of tool for burning the fire

The same symbol you have preserved on oldest coiuns of Polish kings >



Coin, DENAR of Polish King Mieszko, 992 AD



Cooked wheat Serbians call KOLJIVO which directly means `something that is slaughtered` /referring to animal sacrifice to gods/. In later times also sacrifice in plant food. KOLJIVO is word from time immemorial. Prepared wheat KOLJIVO also includes symbolism of firesteels (OCILO).

Firesteels are strongly correlated to the core of the ancestral faith that was fire and sun. Firesteels around the cross are direct reference to the sun and solstice and human balance with fundamental laws of nature.

Serbian coat of arms >

Sarmatia shall awake.

I refuse subjugation.


Tradition remembered the path of ancestors from a time before they were forced to deviate from the path. Forced by those who killed them in the name of Christ and that way committed sins on both- our Ancestors and on Christ Himself. We Serbs saved memory on the ancestral path and proved Christ is God of love. Victory shall be ours.

When?


Why?

And how is it relevant to the staunchly Roman Catholic Poland?

Poland is quite alright as Catholic Poland. Forget term Roman Catholic Poland.

Poland is precious. Rome is a monster with which will Racowie dealth with, same as we dealt with Constantinople.

Ancestors and Christ, yes. Subjugation, no.

And we shall all celebrate Slava.

Why?


You mean Istanbul, Turkey's largest city.

Anyway, Christianity in Poland is staunchly Roman Catholic, except for a minority in the Kresy and converts to American and German style evangelicalism.

Rome and Constabtinople commited and allowed genocide on Serbians, in fact, on all Slavs. So, Orthodoxy and Catholicism would go better without Rome and Constantinople.


Istanbul, too. But before that we dealt with Constantinople. Its not crusaders who destroyed it. Serbs broke backbone of Eastern Romans and Constabtinople. Crusaders just looted it.


Poland is full of Serbs.


And here we came to the answer. When?

When core of our civilization is healed and strong enough. As Lusatian Otto von Bismarck said on his dearhbad - Serbia.

You'll be waiting a long time.

And meanwhile, Poland is still RC and looking west.

Things are accelerated. Look around you.


Poland will look to itself. Poland is the West. C is fine. RC is past. It must be past because threatening Poles.

And tell me @jon357, why do you care for that hierarchy? Rome. Rome. They are maniacs there in Vatican and in that joke what is now Constantinople Patriarchate, not Christians. Are you Christian @jon357?

Now, RC won`t be allowed. C is fine.

Belgrade knows and Belgrade is center.

you drunk or something? Belgrade is not the center of anything but Serbia.

It is. Send your spirit to the future and you shall see Belgrade on the top. Its the only way even Poles to survive as Poles.

Serbian economy becoming Best in Europe. Its only the announce of new order. New old order. Sarmatian order as should be.

tut tut.

Serbia's ranked 66th on GDP per capita if you go by the International Monetary Fund. 71th if you go by the World Bank. Poland's 39th per the IMF, 41st per the World Bank.

So how can you say Serbia's economy is the best if Serbia's lower than Poland?

Ancestors are important.

For what?

Inheritance money, dish dash dosh.

From ancestors?

Not many people inherit a medieval manor house from an ancestor 10 generations back. Nor, necessarily, do they inherit any of that ancestor's genes.

Have you not heard of trust funds, very common amongst tax avoiding brits.

Now do you think Tax avoidance is Christian ? do poles give to the poor?, as they typically avoid taxes at every opportunity ( my observation.)

From ancestors? Or relatives. The Duke of Wherever is hardly typical of anything.


1. Render unto Caesar.
2. Above all, the meaning of the Last Supper.


Are most actually Christian or just going through the motions?

For reverence for remembrance for veneration.

Venerating ancestors? Are you Chinese?

No, RC. Go November the First to any normal cemetery in Poland after dusk and you will see its glow.

That's relatives. Ancestors are somewhat further back.


Not this year...

Familial ancestors are included in that too.