Are Polish Christians here?

Ye, we have even persons more serious than hordes of "baptizati catholici" (baptized Catholics) ;) joke, joke!

I suspect that seeking Polish Christian evangelical or fundamentalist believers on this forum will be a fruitless effort.

The rough statistics are that during the papacy of JP2 and under communist rule, about 97% of Poles claimed membership of the Catholic Church.

Historically, the main protestant church from 16th century was Kościół Ewangelicko-Reformowany w RP, which now numbers about 1500 members in 8 churches.

Attendance in the Catholic Church since 1989 has been decreasing, possibly by as much as 25%.
Poland's evangelical population has grown slightly, but is still very small; about 40,000 professing evangelical believers among a population of approximately 38 million. Denominations like the Brethren Assemblies, the Baptist Union, the Pentecostal Church, and the Evangelical Free Church are viewed by most Poles as sects.

Of these, I can only speak of my own interest.
There are 39 brethren assemblies in Poland and around 28 groups meeting in homes. For cultural comparison, there are 871 assemblies in Romania - which was never a Catholic cntrolled country.

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You got right. Romania, or former Vallachia and Moldavia was during all it's history- as you would like to say- Orthodox controlled country. Does it make a difference for you?

Not peronally, No.
My brother is a regular visitor to Moldova, so I simply speak of what interests me.

Ok.

I'd like to ask if you see any differences in spreading this version of Protestantism in Catholic and Orthodox ruled countries? I guess you consider both Churches being on a similar level of validity. If I am right, what caused fastest spread of this denomination in Romania in your opinion?

There are many thriving prostestants in Poland although they are rare and not well known. There is also a Polish prostentant church in Chicago which I go to. It has been a great tool for language learning and even more amazing to watch these beleivers take on a faith that is not part of their culture.

to some extent that's very true. "borrowing" isn't seen in other parts fo the world as cool.

here is my favourite quote that is related to religion

"Jesus, save me from your followers."

hehe

IINM Adam Małysz is also a protestant.
I don't know if he belongs to the same denomination as Buzek (former PM) or not.

I'm Christian. (Protestant) I'm happy with it! :)

really ? I want to sue you ? pm me your details !

sure!

My very rough guestimates (based on many years of residence in Poland and observing people's religious behavior.

10-20 % hardcore, believing catholics

40-60 % catholic to the extent that they follow any religion, they want to get married in church and have their kids baptised but they don't necessarily attend mass every week (or month) and they may strongly disagree with church positions on certain issues.

10-20 % if you ask they'll say they're catholic, but you'd never know it from their behavior (may make it to church a time or two a year or on specific life milestones)

5 - 10 % overtly non-catholic (this includes followers of other christian denominations, non-christians, atheists, lapsed catholics etc

Merged: ...And God created Poland...

When God was creating nations, he endowed the Poles with a land rich in iron, copper, silver, sulphur, amber and other natural resources, breath-taking mountain scenery, a beautiful seacoast, lush woodlands full of game, lakes and rivers teeming with fish, fields of golden grain, strong handsome lads to harvest it and lovely, flaxen-haired maidens for them to marry and have children with.

WItnessing all this a little angel asked God: "Aren't the Poles getting too much of a good thing?"
God only smiled and said: "Wait till you see who they get for neighbours!"

God was evidently wrong creating Poland. God should have created the big and fat Germany from the very start, so the Germans wouldn't have to push towards the East in their famous "Drang nach Osten" march to find more "Lebensraum" in the Slavic lands. Only recently, the Poles have begun a "Drang nach Westen" to flood Britain with immigrants drawing social benefits, by passing over Germany. God save the Queen!

After the churches were open after the quarantine, we started going to the evening mass for one main reason - there are fewer people. That is why - see you after the service.

@pawian
I was pondering over the vineyard part today, how the ones who refused to give up the harvest from the vineyard as in the Elders whom Jesus often spoke of. Who kept the knowledge and secret about the Old Testament and coming of Jesus for their own worldly gain.

Which makes one wonder about how one is supposed to be spreading Christianity

That was only an introduction to a much more meaningful revelation, namely about a stone which, first rejected by builders, became a crucial cornerstone. That was Jesus - initially rejected by people, gave foundation for a world-shattering phenomenon - Christianity.

@pawian
True, we are blessed to have received it.

I have been wondering lately, (especially with the topic starter's subject he wished to write about) what is worse? Impregnating a women without marriage or impregnating a women who later "sacrificed" her child to money (avoid misery, poverty etc argument) by having an abortion.

It boils down to who/what do you value the most

I mean is that even a question? The answer is rather obvious.

Why do you mention money at all? How about a lack of a father? A male happily produces offspring but when it comes to taking care and rearing them, he is not longer so heroic.

@Ironside
I do Wonder about the opinions of others, as it fascinates me. (This a forum for the exchange of opinions, is it not? Last thing we need is a commie Party event where everyone is clapping in unison)

@pawian
Cause I live in Norway, (soon to change tho)

sure but it note a polling station.

True Polish Christians love Svetovid and celebrate family Slava custom.

There are a few fans of Svetovid but compared to other denominations, the cult is completely insignificant.

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Sure. Vatican hate Poles truly and sincerely and, as much as hate Poles love Germanics. So Vatican invested greatly in brainwashing of the people in Poland.

But, Vatican knows that factor called `Serbians` still exist and hate us even more.

No and no.

The Vatican aren't haters and any 'brainwashing' is a result of the naivete of the episcopate here. Most people don't dwell on religious politics.

Popes, Patriarchs of Constantinople and London Protestant high Princess are biggest sinners. They mocking Christianity. Svetovid is bigger Christian then they all.

You sound as little child here. Truth is painthfull, true.

See, one can easily defend scientific doctirate on the subject - Historic Vatican's dedication to destruction of Poland and Poles.

Tell us more about this interesting idea of yours.

Its so clear.

* Rome and later Vatican were behind era of slavery and Western European hunt on Slavs/Poles, destruction of Slavic states in what is now Western Europe opening that way Germanic acess to Poles

* Vatican was/is behind Germanic expansion onto traditional Western Slavic and Polish lands

* Vatican orchestrated religius wars of Catholic vs Orthodox and Pagans that way, on East agravated Polish - Russian relations and on South weakened Serbs, crucial for Poland wealth line (amber trade etc.). On the North Vatican agravated Polish-Balts relations and prepared ground for germanization of Baltic. Not to say that weakening Russia was exploited by Mongols and Tatars, what in turn weakened Poland and opened path to Mongol invasion.

* Vatican supported (colaborated) Ottoman Turkish invasion onto Serbs and that way ruined traditional Polish wealth line from Baltic to Balkan

* Vatican worked against Serbs long even before Turks came. By that Vatican directly weakened Poland by depriving Poles of most vital ally and in the same time forcing Poland to act in support to Serbs streching its power limits behind maximum what greatly weakened Poland and opened weak spots to penetration of Germanics

* Vatican in crucial moments prevented Polish counter strikes against Germanics just over influence of Catholic Church and never prevented Drang Nach Osten

* Vatican held Poles content in Austro-Hungary helping assimilation of Poles

This for starter.

Clear as mud.


Tosh.