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Brexit Britain on its way to a Banana Republic?


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,198
21 Jul 2021 #1
One day after "Freedom Day":

Journalists could face up to 14 years in prison for stories embarrassing the Government

Isn't that the job of journalists?

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9806517/Journalists-face-14-years-prison-embarrassing-Government-proposed-law-change.html

If such a law would be proposed in the EU...in Germany....the howling would be deafening!
jon357 67 | 17,062
21 Jul 2021 #2
proposed

This word is key.

the howling would be deafening!

Within 24 hours of the amendment being suggested?

You're quoting a link to today's newspaper. To an article which says: :"Under a consultation run by Priti Patel's Home Office, which closes later this week".

They haven't even debated it yet, never mind sent it to committee stage, had amendments proposed, returned it to the lower house then referred it to the upper house. They haven't abled the amendment,; in fact, they haven't even written it.

As we see time and time again, the British do know very well how to make a howl that is deafening, and the worst of the Tories do back down when cornered. Nevertheless, we tend to make deafening howls when there's to make a deafening howl at.

Right now, we're still drinking our morning coffee and reading the same articles as you.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,198
21 Jul 2021 #3
They haven't even debated it yet

How are its chances? What do you think?

It's hardly imaginable such a press-muzzling law coming through in Britain of all places....that would fit an autocracy/dictatorship better....
amiga500 2 | 814
21 Jul 2021 #4
zero, don't forget a sizable faction of the Tories are big on free speech and the high court would strike down the law anyway.
jon357 67 | 17,062
21 Jul 2021 #6
How are its chances?

Hopefully slim.

Even the Daily Mail article (a newspaper that's normally the Tories' strongest media support) quotes more voices against the idea than for it. It would also conflict with certain basic legal principles as well as evolving laws around the internet and is likely to face internal opposition within the Tory party before it could even get that far..
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,198
21 Jul 2021 #7
....well....I wonder about Mrs. Patel though....that is not a smart move, she can only lose with it. Either that proposal gets shut down and she is left looking stupid, or it gets taken on and she will be seen across Europe as an enemy of press-freedom!

Will watch this space...
amiga500 2 | 814
21 Jul 2021 #8
Out of interest when was the last time top secret documents were leaked and published by the press in germany? say in regards to migrant policy or any other issue that affects national security? seems like there is a lot of self censorship going on...
jon357 67 | 17,062
21 Jul 2021 #9
I wonder about Mrs. Patel though

We all do.

she is left looking stupid

Her role (a sort of political Jungian archetype) is the 'bad guy'. All the others are appalling twats too, but she's dressed in the costume of Mrs Nasty and is stage lit in a scary way therefore making the others look milder in comparison. It's basically the same role that Howard/Widdecombe/IDS/Tebbit all played.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,198
21 Jul 2021 #10
Out of interest when was the last time top secret documents were leaked and published by the press in germany?

Umm.....I believe this year....about the money laundering practices by the Deutsche Bank...

dw.com/en/deutsche-bank-handed-124-million-in-bribery-fines-by-us-court/a-56176485

I remember the C*um-Ex scandal recently....

dw.com/en/german-banker-first-to-be-jailed-in-***-ex-tax-evasion-scheme/a-57751184

....then further back there was the scandal with the Panama Papers....

dw.com/en/reports-germany-issues-warrants-for-panama-papers-lawyers/a-55340308

German whistleblowing and document leaking seems to be mainly about money though!
Maybe there is not much to "whistle blow" or to leak concerning the failing immigrant policies and the bad state of our national security is already very well known...*shrug*
jon357 67 | 17,062
21 Jul 2021 #11
Either that proposal gets shut down and she is left looking stupid

It may well not even get as far as being an official proposal. It's an internal consultation for which they're still accepting submissions. There will certainly be submissions from lawyers and relevant agencies as well as from representatives of the media, and they would only go forward with the proposal if they thought it had "legs". They would certainly take support/opposition within the parliamentary Tory party into account.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,198
21 Jul 2021 #12
....I could imagine the reaction of the majority reading that Daily Mail article (like ours)....that might have been already the death blow. :)

Some politicians use such "leaks" to the press to gauge the reactions to certain ideas...if something would be worthwhile to follow up or even not...if that is the case here we should never hear of it again!
Tacitus 2 | 1,342
21 Jul 2021 #13
Honestly, I suspect that the law aims less against the kind of leaks that threaten national security and more acainst those that embarass the government. Like when Johnson was quoted as saying "Let the bodies pile high" or Hancocks' affair was made public which finally forced him to resign.
Crow 150 | 9,552
21 Jul 2021 #14
Yes, Britain have a problems. Serbian media reports that Britain share responsibility with the papacy, Germany and Croat ustashe for genocide on at least 1 million Serbs in the Nazi state of Croatia during WWII.

There will be consequences for all who took part in killing of Serbian children.
Novichok 1 | 4,221
21 Jul 2021 #15
...that would fit an autocracy/dictatorship better....

Which is why it fits the UK so well - a fake democracy that is one memo away from an autocracy/dictatorship where they can tell you you can't leave your house and who you can have sex with.

What is unacceptable is that such an idea can actually exist in somebody's brain for more than 3 seconds.

The question still unanswered is why so many Americans died supplying and defending this godforsaken place that with every passing year looks more and more like the USSR. Or a sh*hole like India or Pakistan.
Crow 150 | 9,552
23 Jul 2021 #16
Britain hate Slavs.
Novichok 1 | 4,221
23 Jul 2021 #17
That's a minor problem. The real problem is that this sick society, just like the Germans, loves their ruling swamp. As I posted earlier, it will be Brits who will introduce 1984 to Europe, smile, and call it a "democracy" - just another version. For the good of society, of course.
Crow 150 | 9,552
25 Jul 2021 #18
Pervert royalty, pervert society. No wonder our ancestors used word `mute` to designate Germanics. Same goes to Anglos. Its same malevolent deviation.
Novichok 1 | 4,221
25 Jul 2021 #19
Its same malevolent deviation.

Blind obedience - no matter what.
Miloslaw 11 | 3,197
25 Jul 2021 #20
Which is why it fits the UK so well - a fake democracy

You have absolutely no understanding of The UK.

it will be Brits who will introduce 1984 to Europe

Yet again,you show your.complete ignorance.....please educate yourself before spouting nonsense that makes you look like a fool.
Novichok 1 | 4,221
25 Jul 2021 #21
You have absolutely no understanding of The UK.

All I need to know is how oppressive a government can be and how compliant the oppressed are. Western "democracies" are shameless tyrannies where the governed can actually be told who they can have sex with. The UK scored well on both counts.
Crow 150 | 9,552
26 Jul 2021 #22
Blind obedience - no matter what.

True. Brits are actually bigger fanatics then Japanese or Chinese. Kind of robot mentality or doggy even. Lobotomized servitors.
Novichok 1 | 4,221
26 Jul 2021 #23
Kind of robot mentality or doggy even. Lobotomized servitors.

I wonder if they even discuss the flood of the migrant scum as freely as we do here? Did the Queen ever say, hey, guys, what the hell is going on? Why is Great Britain getting darker and darker? What is the plan, a-holes?
Miloslaw 11 | 3,197
26 Jul 2021 #24
Why is Great Britain getting darker and darker?

Percentage of British people that are white - 86%

Percentage of Americans that are white - 73%

Just saying.
johnny reb 31 | 5,803
26 Jul 2021 #25
Percentage of British people that are white - 86%

No way.
Percentage of White Americans is (including White Hispanics and Latinos) being 77% in 2011.
And with 20 million plus illegals coming in since then it would raise that percentage.

White British is an ethnicity classification used in the 2011 United Kingdom Census.
(Including N. Ireland, Whales and Scotland)
In the 2011 census, the White British population was 51,736,290, which was 81.88% of the UK total population.
Wikipedia iconWikipedia

What year are you basing your statistics on ? 2011 ?
Because if you are Britain has gotten much darker since then. lol
As a time traveler I can tell you the the UK becomes a majority Muslim country in the year 2047.
Sharia becomes law for all UK citizens in 2053.
By this time most of the British elite have left for eastern Europe (Poland)...............
Europe itself collapses in 2061 in a Muslim war affecting every country in the world.
You should know this of anyone with your own daughter living with one.
jon357 67 | 17,062
26 Jul 2021 #26
Just saying

Quite. And almost nobody stresses about it.
Novichok 1 | 4,221
26 Jul 2021 #27
Percentage of British people that are white - 86%
Percentage of Americans that are white - 73%

It only proves what I have been saying ...that whites are suicidal morons - with Western "democracies" leading the funeral procession for the reasons even they don't understand but are still proud of. Just like gays.

For this reason, I hate white people. How are you this fine morning, Mr. Darwin?
jon357 67 | 17,062
26 Jul 2021 #28
Imagine actually believing that...
Novichok 1 | 4,221
26 Jul 2021 #29
I don't have to "believe" it. I can see it. California is already third-world dark. The bad part is that the Commiefornia leftists are allowed to emigrate to the states they didn't manage to fu*ck up yet. Brits will be on the way out very soon. Rinse and repeat until they run out of places to run to. Russia should start building their wall and give every man and woman an AK-47.


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