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Additional capacity for Nordstream II - Germany plans to buy hydrogen from Russia and use NS II for transport

Crow 160 | 9,545
23 Nov 2021 #391

How so?

They don't want to.

Sure. Even Austria want it and Poland does not? Is it possible Poland wont be part of this? But its suicide

jon357 71 | 21,124
23 Nov 2021 #392
Poland does no

Indeed. Poland does not.

The government's reaction to the Belarus border smokescreen crisis suggests that they are not looking in that direction.
Crow 160 | 9,545
23 Nov 2021 #393
Duda soon coming to Serbia. Poland allows Serbia to use Poland`s air space for import of most heavy armament from Russia. It is only honest from Serbia to accept Poland`s connection to the Balkan Stream.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,298
5 Dec 2021 #394
Now it gets interesting:

(Google translation)

Manfred Weber

"If Putin uses weapons, the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline will be at the end"

The EPP parliamentary group leader Manfred Weber has sharply criticized the deployment of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border and warned against further escalation. For the future of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, he drew a red line that Russia was not allowed to cross.

In view of the Russian troop deployment on the border with Ukraine, the chairman of the conservative EPP group in the EU Parliament, Manfred Weber, has warned against a military escalation of the conflict. "This situation is very worrying, an escalation of the war in eastern Ukraine cannot be ruled out," Weber told "Bild am Sonntag". The situation is "a test for NATO and the Western community of values."....

Joker 4 | 2,572
6 Dec 2021 #395
"If Putin uses weapons, the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline will be at the end"

If Biden has any brains left he will put sanctions on the pipeline tomorrow morning.
Crow 160 | 9,545
7 Dec 2021 #396
Well, NATO can always use Nord Stream 2 to cannon man bombs onto Russia. Pretty much idiots there who would take it romantic

Miloslaw 15 | 4,674
7 Dec 2021 #397
Nordstream 2 was an insane idea and needs to be shut down immediately.
Germany needs to wake up and go nuclear again.

Furthermore, the current German government will undermine and destroy the German economy.
With the political chaos in France at.the.moment, I can see rhe.end.of The EU coming.
Brace yourselves EU members.
The end is nigh!
jon357 71 | 21,124
8 Dec 2021 #398
Nordstream 2 was an insane idea and needs to be shut down immediately.

A few strategic limpet mines with straightforward detonators.

They'd have to be very generic ones so the dirty deed couldn't be pinned down to any one country.
Crow 160 | 9,545
8 Dec 2021 #399
Brace yourselves EU members.
The end is nigh!

After so long I see my influence on you. You are my mental child.

In one hand I am happy and then again I am sad at the same time.
jon357 71 | 21,124
8 Dec 2021 #400
my mental child

They do say it runs in families...
Crow 160 | 9,545
8 Dec 2021 #401
But we don`t share family lineage. Not that I know, at least.

So, he is just a mental follower. Follower in attempt. Like half-finished child.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,298
12 Dec 2021 #402
Google translate:

Baerbock over Nord Stream 2 »This pipeline cannot be approved like this« she has an official gov job....foreign her words have some weight....

...Federal Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock has confirmed that the controversial German-Russian gas pipeline Nord Stream 2 cannot currently be put into operation.

When recording a ZDF interview in Brussels on Sunday, the Green politician referred to the agreement in the coalition agreement with the SPD and FDP that European energy law applies to energy projects such as the Baltic Sea pipeline. "And that means that, as things stand at the moment, this pipeline cannot be approved because it does not meet the requirements of European energy law and the safety issues are still in the room anyway," said Baerbock.....

Next move Putin....
Korvinus 1 | 606
22 Feb 2022 #403
RIP NordStream 2.
Here's hoping Europe finally cuts energy ties with R*ssia and stop being their b*itch. But that's probably optimistic.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,298
22 Feb 2022 #404
Yeah....just in:

German government halts controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline

At last! Our new chancellor shows balls!

In view of the Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine, Germany is taking the first steps: According to SPIEGEL information, the Ministry of Economic Affairs has put the certification process for Nord Stream 2 on hold.....

*fist pump*

...The federal government is taking the consequences of the escalation in eastern Ukraine and has stopped the approval process for the controversial Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) said on Tuesday in Berlin that he had asked the Federal Ministry of Economics to take the necessary administrative steps so that the gas pipeline could not be certified for the time being. "And without this certification, Nord Stream 2 cannot go into operation." It is clear that the situation must now be reassessed, and "all the questions that concern us must be taken into account"....

Everything else would have become to embarrassing....
Miloslaw 15 | 4,674
22 Feb 2022 #405
*fist pump*

Yes,good news, but tbh he didn't really have much choice.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,298
22 Feb 2022 #406
....Merkel would surely had found a way to keep it open....for the "peace" or to keep the" dialogue" or what was her baby after all!

In English:

Ukraine crisis live: Germany shelves Russian gas pipeline after Putin orders troops over border

Latest updates: German chancellor says situation 'has fundamentally changed
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,105
22 Feb 2022 #407
Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) said on Tuesday in Berlin that he had asked the Federal Ministry of Economics to take the necessary administrative steps so that the gas pipeline could not be certified for the time being.

Good news I suppose. Now I want the next news item to read:

"Federal Minster of Defence, Christine Lambrecht, has just authorised Marine forces to blow up the infamous NS1 and NS2 gas pipes. "They are the worst symbol of German support for putinist regime, and as such have to be demolished" - said Lambrecht. Navy task force has just set off from Hamburg with divers ordered to use high explosive materials to destroy 500 kilometres of NS1 and 700 kilometres of NS2. Polish Navy will assist their German allies in this task."

Now, THAT would be really good news!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,298
22 Feb 2022 #408 can dream, right?

But first things first:

Ukraine crisis: Unexpectedly far-reaching EU sanctions - von der Leyen explains the plan against Russia

....Update from February 22, 2:28 p.m .: The EU sanctions for Russia are becoming more specific. They target banks, financial markets, as well as trade with the country. This was announced by EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and EU Council President Charles Michel on Tuesday in Brussels. According to them, the draft sanctions package provides for, among other things, restricted access for Russia to the EU's capital and financial markets.

The aim is to significantly limit Russia's ability to "finance an aggressive policy aimed at escalation," the statement said. Accordingly, "banks that finance Russia's military and other operations" in eastern Ukraine are also subject to sanctions. Also affected is trade with the pro-Russian separatist regions of Luhansk and Donetsk.

In addition, sanctions are planned against those responsible who were involved in the "illegal decision" to recognize the separatist areas by Russian President Vladimir Putin. This could affect Russian members of parliament, for example, who had called on Putin to take the step. According to reports, accounts are to be blocked and entry bans into the EU are planned. Appropriate sanctions had previously been discussed (see initial report). In addition, the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline will be stopped for the time being, but this is not an EU decision but a German decision. Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced the decision on Tuesday afternoon.

Might be that Putin miscalculated this time...this might not become another Crimea adventure, quickly ignored and forgotten by the West!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,298
22 Feb 2022 #409
Medvedev to Germany's decision to ice Nordstream 2:

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has issued an order to halt the process of certifying the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Well. Welcome to the brave new world where Europeans are very soon going to pay €2.000 for 1.000 cubic meters of natural gas!

I love that reaction: 😁

Replying to
Evidently that's all russia is good for... and now...
not even that !

Don't worry...

The US and others will gladly supply the gas to our allies !

Hava nice day !
Crow 160 | 9,545
22 Feb 2022 #410
Germany was always suicidal. Congrats to the States.
Novichok 4 | 7,135
1 Mar 2022 #411
Germany was always suicidal.

Screw Germany. I will have to pay more.
Crow 160 | 9,545
1 Mar 2022 #412
Agreed. Russia would pacify Germany with a single Sarmat bomb but I won`t have my buying of BMW. All situation affects me in a most tragic way. That pains me, I won`t have my BMW. Actually, how things stand we all would be happy to drive any car and have food and water.

NATO urinated us.
Alien 12 | 2,773
11 Apr 2022 #413
Poland has always said that NS2 is a political mistake.
jon357 71 | 21,124
11 Apr 2022 #414
And now we all know that Poland was right on this.

There's still the problem of nordstream one. I've said it before that it needs deniability and that the environmental impact would be huge, however it does need putting permanently out of action.
Novichok 4 | 7,135
11 Apr 2022 #415
I hope it will hurt, morons...From

Is your energy bill going to hit £5,000? Alarming prediction energy cap will continue to spiral leaving families facing huge yearly bills if Ukraine war drags on and wreaks havoc on gas supplies

Stupid decisions have stupid consequences. In the meantime, India, China, Ireland, Hungary, and Germany, to name a few, gave sanctions the middle finger. To quote one brilliant Indian..."It's not our war". And Orban: "We need gas to run the country". So FO. No, he didn't say that but he meant it.
Paulina 13 | 3,406
11 Apr 2022 #416
@Novichok, there was nothing "stupid" in putting sanctions on Russia. Unless you prefer NATO military intervention in Ukraine?
Novichok 4 | 7,135
11 Apr 2022 #417
Don't tell me this...Call India, China, Ireland, Hungary, Germany and 50 other countries that think you are wrong...hahahahahaha...
You do know that you can't run things on farts, don't you?
Alien 12 | 2,773
12 Apr 2022 #418
Yes you can, this is called biogas.
Alien 12 | 2,773
18 Jun 2022 #419
So, so, and now is even NS1 to much
jon357 71 | 21,124
18 Jun 2022 #420

Yes. It needs capping off permanently.

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