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Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland


GefreiterKania 29 | 1234
11 Aug 2023 #61
Actually, I call their voters so.

Oh, so they are Polish patriots but their voters are homo sovieticuses?

Pawian, pawian, pawian... you are getting older. Sorry for quoting the news again but...

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OP pawian 221 | 24216
11 Aug 2023 #62
so they are Polish patriots but their voters are homo sovieticuses?

Even if they are patriots in case of Ukrainians (and only in this case, practically) , their voters still can be homo sovieticuses who prey on PiS benefits.

I don`t see any conflict in it. If you do, you are trying to catch me but to no avail. Ha!

Sorry for quoting the news again

Yes, it is already a cliched piece. It is clear you are desperately looking for arguments but can`t. :):):) Sorry,l you have to try harder with me. hahahaha
OP pawian 221 | 24216
11 Aug 2023 #63
Amasing they are asking it after the sale of a big Polish oil company LOTOS to Saudi Arabians and Hungarians. PiS are cheeky bastards.

Part of the Gdańsk Refinery went to the Saudi company Saudi Aramco. The part covering the production of bitumen and nine fuel terminals was purchased by the private Polish company Unimot. The part related to biofuels was bought by the international company Rossi Biofuel. Orlen sold 417 Lotos petrol stations to the Hungarian MOL, buying from it at the same time stations in Hungary and Slovakia.

"Do you support the sale of state-owned enterprises?"

hahahaha
OP pawian 221 | 24216
11 Aug 2023 #64
robbed by kids left to their own devices by both their parents and society,

A child doesn`t get a benefit, it is his/her parents who receive and spend it. This kid robber will still rob you, with or without a benefit :):):)
jon357 73 | 22638
11 Aug 2023 #65
it is his/her parents who receive and spend it.

One reason that there needs to be increased societal involvement in child welfare. The parents don't always know best.

robber

Better that poor families have some money rather than none; it increased the chance of one of it going in the right direction.
amiga500 4 | 1490
11 Aug 2023 #66
Fekk them all!!!

Good to see the scumbag, heartless, neo-liberal nature of a PO voter be displayed so effortlessly.

You have no idea of what a western civilised country should look like, because you yourself are not western and civilised. You are ersatz, spouting the platitudes but never the real thing.
Alien 22 | 5195
12 Aug 2023 #67
you yourself are not western and civilised

As far as I know Australia isn't either.
amiga500 4 | 1490
12 Aug 2023 #68
BS our livability and happiness indices are up there with the world's best. livability of an idyllic tropical island, happiness due to social welfare, lack of overt corruption, public healthcare and egalitarianism ("a fair go") . we're up there with the Nordic countries.
Alien 22 | 5195
12 Aug 2023 #69
we're up there with the Nordic countries.

As far as I know, "Nordic countries" are very left wing by European conditions.
amiga500 4 | 1490
12 Aug 2023 #70
" are very left wing by European conditions.

Yeah economic and social welfare wise, read up about the integration and ghetto laws introduced by the social democrats in Denmark.
amiga500 4 | 1490
12 Aug 2023 #71
"Nordic countries" are very left wing by European conditions.

You might be surprised, not every 'western civilised' country has people that are pussy ass cucks in regards to illiterate rapey migrants that you germans and Polaks living in germany with a german mindset love as an example of diversity. google. Finland.

It's like you're not Polish anymore.
Ironside 50 | 12338
12 Aug 2023 #72
has people that are pussy ass cucks

I don't think it is all about it. I mean I'm rather sure it is all about different complex issues, that includes break down of morality, mass media, oligarchy, corporations getting one over a state and humanity getting more propserous that ever in a history of a human kind....

Australia is lucky enough to have a their elite agreeing on this one subject and for a good reason. When it comes to gun owneship that is an another story,,, well...
amiga500 4 | 1490
12 Aug 2023 #73
I don't think it is all about it

A german cuck is a universal cuck, and this alien character has proved it many times over, polish or not.
Alien 22 | 5195
12 Aug 2023 #74
It's like you're not Polish anymore.

My worldview wouldn't be different if I lived in Poland.....I guess, or do you think a Pole must always be an extreme?
Ironside 50 | 12338
12 Aug 2023 #75
A german cuck is a universal cuck,

as a rule most people are conformists and they follow a main stream of anything that is currently going on,,,I bet he would be a good old hitler supporter at the time i.e. 30' Germany.

Right now - refugee has rights and everyone from Africa is a refugee - is fad. So..

My worldview wouldn't be different if I lived in Poland.

Since you are not living in Poland. Have no interest in living in Poland, hopfully you don't vote in Poland. I don't really care what you think. Not deep down....drink some good wine, eat some sour grapes and freshly baked bread with a good quality olive oil and be happy ....
Alien 22 | 5195
12 Aug 2023 #76
some good wine, eat some sour grapes and freshly baked bread with a good quality olive oil and be happy ....

I am, but I will always tell you the truth when you go astray
OP pawian 221 | 24216
12 Aug 2023 #77
neo-liberal nature

I have always been against communism and socialism. Ha! I am proud of it coz my views haven`t changed for decades. Fekk all communists and socialists!!! hahahaha

PO

It was PO who introduced child benefit based on tax deduction. as first. Ha!

good old hitler supporter

You would support proRussian and antisemitic endeks. Actually, you are still doing it. Ha! Amassing!!!
Ironside 50 | 12338
12 Aug 2023 #78
ell you the truth

Problem with truth is often such that is not easy to tell if your truth is an actuall truth or just a truism you belive to be true.

I'm not adverse to seek the truth, or true answears to issues or hear it from others.
However those others even if sincere confuse their opinions with the truth.
Reading your post, they are full of you, your ego, your likes and dislikes and fulll of your opinions and preferences. You don't strike me as a man that has anything universal or profound to convey..
OP pawian 221 | 24216
12 Aug 2023 #79
Since you are not living in Poland.

So what?? You didn`t live in Poland for 30 years but still voiced your crazy opinions in this forum since 2008. Now you have come back at last but 3 decades is a long time. That emigration surely imprinted negatively on your psyche coz you support fascists aka nationalist endeks. .
Crnogorac3 4 | 730
12 Aug 2023 #80
They seem to believe Russian exploitation of their natural resources is much better than the traditional exploitation by the French, their old colonizers.

youtu.be/sc8A0biI_Us

5% For Niger, 95% For France
amiga500 4 | 1490
12 Aug 2023 #81
well i all i know is these my brothers my sisters my blood i don't care if 5000km youtube.com/watch?v=V1XgZyQT0ME&list=TLPQMTIwODIwMjMnBzfCqUOdlQ&index=1

and also the pommy kunts youtube.com/watch?v=1pacKh2YDSs&list=TLPQMTIwODIwMjMnBzfCqUOdlQ&index=2
Alien 22 | 5195
12 Aug 2023 #82
bet he would be a good old hitler supporter at the time i.e. 30' Germany.

I see that we need to start a new thread about the history of Poles in Germany since World War 1, because some people show deficiencies in education.
OP pawian 221 | 24216
12 Aug 2023 #83
PiS published the second question it intends to ask in the referendum, which is to be held together with the parliamentary elections on October 15.

"Are you in favor of raising the retirement age which today is 60 for women and 65 for men " -

This time the question was asked by former Prime Minister and current MEP Beata Szydło.

It was PO which increased the retirement age, but the change was not abrupt, the full introduction of it was to last 30 years. It was PiS which lowered it to the previous level.

Now there is a problem. Homo sovieticuses who don`t want to work one day longer than necessary welcomed the PIS` change with great pleasure. However, being idiots who aren`t able to count, they didn`t realise the pensions would be dramatically low if the retirement is so early.

Now they still vote for PiS which offers them the 13th and 14th pension. This is a vicious circle. And the finances of the state are under extreme pressure. PIS is indebting Poland like no other gov before.

It is my kids who will have to pay all those debts one day. Unless they emigrate, but I doubt it coz I taught them to be patriots of Poland, with such message - stay in your motherland and work hard to develop it.

Therefore, let me repeat my holy words:

Fekk those dumb homo sovieticuses who prey on Poland like fekking leeches and refuse to lift a finger to improve their situation!!! Fekk PIS gangsters, too!
GefreiterKania 29 | 1234
12 Aug 2023 #84
"Are you in favor of raising the retirement age which today is 60 for women and 65 for men "

Hmm... I think they haven't thought this through.

What if their entire iron electorate (about 30%) plus 15% of some idiots say "NO", and the rest of voters say "YES". It will mean that 55% of votes will be in favor of raising the retirement age.

Will they have enough of honesty then to raise the retirement age against the wish of their iron electorate? :)
mafketis 37 | 10776
12 Aug 2023 #85
55% of votes will be in favor of raising the retirement age

A friend was recently interviewed by reżimowa tv talking to attendees at a local event. After asking about the event (fun, people go there every year) they asked what he thought about raising the retirement age. He said that given the low birth rate there's no real economic choice but to raise it... and the interviewer got a sour look on her face and they ended up not asking his name (meaning they won't air it).

Is the iron electorate that economically illiterate that they don't realize that if they haven't produced enough children to work and support them they'll just have to work longer? How do they want the numbers to work... by magic?
GefreiterKania 29 | 1234
12 Aug 2023 #86
Is the iron electorate that economically illiterate

Not only economically.
OP pawian 221 | 24216
12 Aug 2023 #87
Will they have enough of honesty then to raise the retirement age against the wish of their iron electorate? :)

:):):) Come on, this referendum is another spoof, nobody in PiS is taking it seriously, I mean they don`t care about the results, they are doing it to have an opportunity to lash out at the previous gov, now in opposition, for introducing various unpopular laws.

It reminds me of another referendum that communists held in 1980s to test their popularity. Its results were also completely unimportant.
Novichok 5 | 7761
12 Aug 2023 #88
...this referendum is another spoof, nobody in PiS is taking it seriously, I mean they don`t care about the results

I feel sorry for you, pawian...How to pis* on PiS like you just did and at the same time claim that Poland is a democracy ...Hmm...

I don't have that head-scratcher to deal with ...
OP pawian 221 | 24216
12 Aug 2023 #89
that Poland is a democracy ..

It is still, despite PiS` efforts to destroy it. Two factors prevented PIS from introducing dictatorial Putin-like rule in Poland:
- decent Poles who reject homo sovieticus` standards
- the membership in the EU which protects the rule of law in Poland.
Bless them all for saving Poland from PIS` dirty machinations!!!!

Fekk PiS gansters and their homo sovieticus voters!!!!

Tfu, kanalie!
Novichok 5 | 7761
12 Aug 2023 #90
Give me a condensed version of that post...

Is Poland today a democracy or not?

I mean the way the system works, not what the Civics books say.
In PRL books said very nice things about things. So, no quotes, please. Just your opinion.


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