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Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland


Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
16 Oct 2023 #361
@pawian
Your hatred for your country and everything it has stood for will be the end of you one day.

I won't even have to lift a finger for it to happen, it will be all brewed by yourself. That is the future I read and foresee for you.

I wish I could do something, but I see no more hope for you. Nor the plains, fields, rivers, mountains and cities I have seen and cherished.

You and your ilk screaming with joy and writing with pleasure about Poland's downfall and hoping for tight ropes with EU. Only reminds me of the backers of Hohenzollerners

J√ľncker bootlicker

Your ilk disgusts me
Paulina 16 | 4,203
16 Oct 2023 #362
where did you get the idea to boycott the referendum? have you come up with the idea yourself?

As I wrote already - YES, I came up with that idea myself.

Btw, I posted an article on this thread in which Tusk was telling people to do what they want with this referendum - take part or not take part - it's up to them.

And I did - I decided to boycott it.

what was your personal aim in boycotting the referendum?

My main goal was to make the referendum non-binding as a sign of protest against PiS ulterior motives for making this referendum and how the questions were worded.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #363
take part or not take part - it's up to them.

if you don't recognize it as an outer influence then you should think about it some more

My main goal was to make the referendum non-binding as a sign of protest against PiS ulterior motives for making this

let's assume there was only one question there say about the retirement age - how would you vote? what would be your aim then?
Paulina 16 | 4,203
16 Oct 2023 #364
if you don't recognize it as an outer influence then you should think about it some more

An outer influence telling me to make up my own mind?? :)))
Btw, I don't recognize it as an outer influence, because I found that article after I already made a decision. I found it only because I was googling for info to find out whether it's allowed to refuse to take part in the referendum and how it's done correctly.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #365
but I see no more hope for you.

You are really mental. :):)
Listen, boy - you are a foreign azhole who doesn`t understand intelligent decent Poles. Get the fekk out of Poland quickly coz this isn`t a country for you. You have been rejected by Polish institutions and Polish women for being such a pathetic azhole as you are.
Lenka 5 | 3,396
16 Oct 2023 #366
if you don't recognize it as an outer influence

You do realise someone may listen to someone's arguments, judge them against what they think about the issue and agree?

Most ideas don't just pop into your head. You hear about them and think about them and make up your mind.
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #367
let's assume there was only one question there say about the retirement age - how would you vote?

For prolonging it, of course. I would like to work as long as possible.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #368
An outer influence telling me to make up my own mind?? :)))

an outer source telling you you have an alternative to participating in the referendum

btw you may have not seen this (because I watched it on TVP and you probably don't watch TVP) but Tusk in one in his pre-election rallies said (or rather exclaimed) "I call off this referendum" - I don't know if or how much it was televised on other channels

again I may be wrong about you personally but I doubt all of those who boycotted the referendum came up with the idea on their own

judge them against what they think about the issue and agree?

what was your aim in boycotting the referendum and why was it the same as Paulina's?
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
16 Oct 2023 #369
@pawian

Yeah, I am a pathetic foreign azhole apparently. I don't understand intelligent Poles, decent or UNdecent one's. Probably also don't understand hooligans, Babcia's, szumowiny, patole or generally people of patologia backgrounds, I don't understand Polish farmers, soldiers or businessmen.

And I have been rejected by many women, not only Polish. Indian, Russian, Ukrainian, Jewish... With various backgrounds.

I'll build my dogbreeding farm and earn bunch of money and write books for a living! I can bark pathetically for you too! Woof woof!
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #370
I don't understand intelligent Poles,

don't worry - I don't understand pawian either ;)
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
16 Oct 2023 #371
@gumishu
Worries are my bread and butter, it wakes me up in the morning and gives me goals, thoughts and ideas.

But thanks
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #372
I can bark pathetically for you too! Woof woof!

Yes, you have been doing it since yesterday.
By calling you an azhole, I wanted to draw your attention to the fact that insulting me is useless coz I couldn`t care less but by doing so, you do harm to yourself.

Secondly, you come from Norway, a country with deeply rooted democratic traditions. Yet, you hang around the Polish forum and whine about the end of Poland and other stupidites like that. And you abuse people who have been waiting for 8 years for such results.

Woof woof!

Yes, mongrel, go and find yourself a dog which will fekk you and your stalinist grandpa, too. Ha!
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #373
For prolonging it, of course. I would like to work as long as possible.

you can work as long as you want under current law as far as I know - retiring at 65 is not compulsory and many people choose to work longer - but if you wish other people should work as long as you plan to then you are a communist/fascist etc
Paulina 16 | 4,203
16 Oct 2023 #374
an outer source telling you you have an alternative to participating in the referendum

And what's wrong with that? :))) People should know that they have an alternative.

and you probably don't watch TVP) but Tusk in one in his pre-election rallies said (or rather exclaimed) "I call off this referendum"

I don't watch TVP (and as I wrote I didn't follow this campaign too closely and didn't watch news on TV in general) and, I'm afraid, I wasn't on that rally :)))

but I doubt all of those who boycotted the referendum came up with the idea on their own

Why do you doubt that?
Also, do you think that PiS voters came up with the idea of taking part in the referendum on their own or were they influenced by "outer sources" by any chance? :))))))
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #375
but if you wish other people should work as long as you plan to then you are a communist/fascist etc

Missed!!! I am a father of a few young Poles and I know one day they will pay huge taxes to maintain the growing army of pensioners. So far my eldest kids are still staying in Poland but when they are pressed economically, they might leave. I don`t want it.

That is why people have to work longer coz we are still developing and aren`t as rich as Germany.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
16 Oct 2023 #376
@pawian
Hahahahahahaha
You gave me a good smile and internal laughter. Next you will tell me that Norway is a beacon of human rights, open to foreigners and that Norwegian salmon is the best salmon at the grocery store

Dog has already been found for my sweet Kiri, owned by a an openly homosexual. So you can jaleous of me being more "tolerant" then you ever become!

Besides you might thinking too much of your own grandpa.

Both of mine grandparents would prefer Gulag over serving Stalin, but one of them was part in invasion in 1968. I guess you can blame him of being a Pepiszki boot discipliner
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #377
Also, do you think that PiS voters came up with the idea of taking part in the referendu

sure - they were influenced - but they were offered a choice to alter their reality - for example ban immigrant relocation from other EU countries (they could choose not to say NO) - they could also say yes to "Let's allow other governments to make us work longer" - they also could choose "Who cares about privatisation of state assets" - I myself share the views of PiS on all of these issues - and I am quite convinced that there are hundreds of thousands of voters who consciously share those views and chose to try to impose their views as binding by law - I said hundreds of thousands not millions because I'm not sure every single PiS voter consciously decided that the referendum answers promoted by PiS conform with their views - btw there were over a hundred thousand people (the attendence at the refferendum was a couple per cent higher than PiS result) more who voted in the referendum despite not voting for PiS - do you think these people acted as sheeple?
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #378
ban immigrant relocation from other EU countries

The EU isn`t pressing on Poland to relocate immigrants. Stop lying.,

Let's allow other governments to make us work longer

Can you see the stupidity of this question??? All of them were like that. That is why 60% voters rejected the referendum.

I myself share the views of PiS on all of these issues

OK but it is nothing to brag about, especially here. You won`t gain respect of decent Polish posters with such declarations.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
16 Oct 2023 #379
@pawian

Happy you are in better shape now. Was worried for you recently
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #380
better shape

Better than what?? You mean my sickness a month ago???

Was worried for you recently

Worried that you won`t have a chance to stab me in the back???? hahahaha

-All the four questions in this ridiculous referendum were ones of the Soviet-style type: Please tell us who your idol is, and why is it comrade Lenin?

:):):)
Exactly. PiS was inventing their questions having their homo sovieticus voters in mind.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #381
Can you see the stupidity of this question???

no - the question is not stupid if you take into account that if the question was answered as intended by PiS it would be a binding law (unless a new referendum on the topic is held) which would mean next governments would not be able to raise the retirement age just like that
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,171
16 Oct 2023 #382
@pawian
Back? Face, arm, leg. You seem to be able to take it, being like a amputee! Just metal I hit anyways ;)
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
16 Oct 2023 #383
next governments

Previously, you said other govs which meant foreign ones.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
16 Oct 2023 #384
other govs which meant foreign ones

sorry my bad, but you are nitpicking (as always)

The EU isn`t pressing on Poland to relocate immigrants. Stop lying.,

let's wait and see - there is a proposed mechanism for compulsory relocation (google it probably) - from what I can gather it went through the EU parliament already
Lenka 5 | 3,396
16 Oct 2023 #385
an outer source telling you you have an alternative to participating in the referendum

Telling her the options she has...how dare they????!!!!!
Novichok 5 | 7,720
16 Oct 2023 #386
The EU isn`t pressing on Poland to relocate immigrants. Stop lying.

This was the lowest and laziest way to object.

It goes like this...

A - X stole 10,000 bucks.
B - No, X didn't steal 10,000 bucks.
Average Joe - X is not a thief.
The truth - X is a thief. X stole 9,999 bucks.

You are B.

Mr. Clinton sends his regards...Even he says you are annoying.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,743
16 Oct 2023 #387
This was the lowest and laziest way to object.

Pawian is always low and lazy and when he is losing an argument he tries to make a joke of it, which always fails, but he doesn't see it that way.... poor, sad, lost Pawian......
Joker 2 | 2,569
16 Oct 2023 #388
he is losing an argument he tries to make a joke of it, which always fails,

Spot On! His jokes arent remotely funny either..
OP pawian 222 | 23,657
17 Oct 2023 #389
I come in the morning and what do I see??Three forum azholes debating pawian. Amasing! :):):)
Miloslaw 19 | 4,743
17 Oct 2023 #390
@pawian

It just shows what an azhole you are!


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