Poland's post-election political scene

Please stop with your fantasies: neither of those men are even mentioned in that article. The only name given in that article is Jackiewicz, who was recently fired for being too much of a cronyist for even the 18% regime!

But Nowczesna's Neo-Nazis are unwilling to march elsewhere. In fact they're just hoping for a nice-punch-up so some paparazzo can snap a riot policeman swinging his baton and then the GW, NYT, WaPo, CNN gang can splash it all over the net. You and the entire poor excuse for an oppositon follow Goebbels' propaganda techniques to a T.


Nots urpłrising to see a paper bankrolled by That Cat Soros writing such anarcho-lefitst-libertine codswallop which people of your ilk readily lap up and ask for more dirt.

nice to see that cat Polonius loosening up and getting with the last slang.... groovy!


Do you have any evidence for this outrageous claim? (answer: of course not)

"Cat" and "cool" can hardly be called the latest slang, as they go back at least to the 1940s. Just goes to show how bird-brains think they are so "cool" using such outdated slang.

Well Harry's use of the word "cat" is meant to suggest that Duda is simply the president's pet (and has no more real power than does Jarosław's pussy (cat)). Nothing that's happened in politics since he's been elected contradicts that.

Indeed, Kaczynski boasted about that in front of a large audience.

A number of his legislative projects have been adopted. Besides, he is a man of goodwill, visitng far-flung corners of hte country and assuring people that the good-change government rememebrs them and their needs. The Polish presidential office is not that of France or the US, but Duda is far from being just a figurehead.

On the basis of his weak record, it is stretching things to say he is a person of good will, and stretching it even more to say he is anything other than a marionette for the ghastly Jaroslaw Kaczynski and his friend Macierewicz who are far from being people of good will.

Yes, they are people of good will no matter how much you don't like it.

Have you ever met Kaczyński? The Michnikite press and other distorted media have demonised the poor man beyond recogntion. In late PRL Michnik and Kuroń were Jaruzelski's chief bugbears but after he met them he knew they would play ball with him. Aside from being a great political strategist, Kaczyński is a highly intelligent discusion partner and a warm congenial individual with a sense of humour.

Yes


There you go again...

And this former jailed dissident stilll garners more respect than JK ever will.

Michnik has never been subjected to unrelenting PO hate-industry attacks of the kind directed at Kaczyński for years.

Well, Po, he's certainly been subjected to a wrongful jail term as a prisoner of conscience, during a period when Jaroslaw Kaczynski was living a privileged life among the Nomenklatura...

Two, actually; one of which came years before Chairman Kaczynski volunteered to prosecute the likes of Mr Michnik.

Anyway, seen the latest polls? All the publicity about the 18% regime getting their snouts wedged into the trough, and the utter idiocy over changes to abortion law, seem to have not gone down well: PIS support has fallen to 29% and Nowoczesna are up to 25%.

Oh dear! too bad the elections are in 3 years hahaha

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That was Michnik's youth -- cushy flat in Aleja Stanów Zjednoczonych in a neighbourhood populated by the red bourgeoisie, access to special yellow-curtain shops reserved for PZPR operatives and their fmailies. Kaczyński had nothing to do with the nomenklatura.


Funny,a nobody heard a peep out of you when PiS was up to 41%? Poll results fluctuate, but nobody ever made a bigger fool of themselves than PO. In 2005 they plastered the country with billboards promoting a President from Kashubia and a PM from Kraków. They repeated their folly last year being sure incumbent Bronek would be a shoo-in for president and that PO would remain in power.

Okay, I get why you don't like Kaszub (german cooties) but what's wrong with Kraków? For someone who claims to be a patriot there's an awful lot of your supposed countrymen that you dislike....

What up with that sh1tt?

Nothing wrong with Kraków. Nor with Poznań, Białystok or whatever. This had nothing to do with individual cities but was meant to point up the arrogance and excessive self-confidence of PO who were 100% sure they would win.

BTW Kashubs are great in my books! Anyone who managed to preserve their language and heritage despite centuries of forced krautification deserve only admiration and praise.

Mr Michnik had a flat. Chairman Kaczynski had a villa. Mr Michnik was allowed into a shop. Chairman Kaczynski was admitted to the most sought-after university courses. Mr Michnik reacted by fighting for freedom to the extent that the regime locked him up. Chairman Kaczynski reacted by volunteering to prosecute the kind of people who did what Mr Michnik did.


Nobody else got a chance to post about them: you were always here crowing about them as soon as they were released. Strange how you've been so quiet about polls since PIS' chickens have started coming home to roost as the people of Poland find out about the PISite snouts wedged in the trough and about what it would mean to live in a pseudo-Catholic version of the Islamic State.

It's PiS! edited
Still no proof that he VOLUNTEERED TO PROSECUTE DISSIDENTS, Another of your 1% truth lies.

I've already linked to the words of Chairman Kaczynski's brother confirming that they both volunteered to prosecute 'criminals', which back then also meant volunteering to prosecute the heroes such as Mr Michnik. I think Chairman Kaczynski still feels guilty about his actions then, which is why to this day he attacks real Polish heroes such as Mr Michnik and President Walesa and pretends he was their leader.

Something of a technique by extremists in this thread and mirrored in Poland generally. Basically concrete proof is given and then they deny it's there hoping people won't read the whole thread and actually see the proof.

As we can see by PIS' plummeting ratings, most people aren't actually that stupid

Ratings don't matter now so what's the difference.

Do tell...

I figured there's be such a back-out as the insinuation that it "also meant", "could've meant", "might've meant"... Sensitive or controversial cases were routinely assigned to tried and tested loyal PZPR types. If for some reason Kaczyński had been put on a dissident case, he would undoubtedly have refused outright or would have pulled an Italian strike or some other delaying or sabotaging tactic. You wouldn't know this because all you know about PRL is what soft-on-commies people of Michnik's ilk have written.

So yet another of your hare-brained harryisms has been put to rest. Like the govt property at knock-down prices. What about that "hilarious" bio you promised?

Prosecutors in Poland, as in most countries, swear an oath to uphold and defend the law without favour. They are strictly forbidden from refusing to uphold the law; for example a fundamentalist Mormon would not be allowed to refuse to prosecute a bigamist on the grounds that his religion says bigamy is just fine. So Chairman Kaczynski either intended to break his oath (something of which there is no evidence at all) or to prosecute dissidents (something evidenced by him volunteering for a job which required people to do that).


No, I also know what the paid shills of the PZPR wrote about it, which is remarkably similar to what the paid shills of PIS write about the Poland which some people call the PiSlamic State.

Anyway, anybody else noticed the disgusting actions of Ziobro, taking revenge on a judge for ruling against him in a defamation case two years ago by sacking her due to a grand total of zero complaints being filed against her?

Repeating this willl not make it true. Dissidents accounted for less than 1% of all cases and such cases were reserved for trusted die-hard PZPR prosecutors. Secondly, one need not keep an oath made to a hostile, Soviet-occupied puppet state. So again you are creating hypothetical situations based on your well-known malevolence and ignorance. Par for the course for the forum's LL.

In the People's Republic of Poland, a majority of the citizens supported socialism...

On the surface to be sure. But deep down... PRL-era Poles were like radishes -- red on the outside. When a totalitarian occupation authority takes over, everything from a passport to a diploma, job, building permit, etc. depedns on the good graces of the regime, and people do have to live, support their families and try to function as best they can.


Poles were strictly forbidden from blowing up Nazi supply trains in the General Governorate, and Americans were forbidden from dumping British tea into Boston Bay in the late 1700s... But when hostile enemy occupation occurs, and PRL was an occupied puppet state, those niceties are not binding and defiance inlcuding sabotage is a patriotic act.