Poland Parliament elections in October 2011

Dunno why so many folks trust Komorowski to be honest. It could be because he doesn't do anything, so he can't be doing much wrong, can he? He seems to have put on weight and sort of waddles about. They needs to give him something to do.

He is actually very active. Some recent events in which he has take part: youtube.com/wwwprezydentpl

Typical of all Polish presidents. As a matter of fact, they haven`t had to do much. :):):)


They can infect him with scabies. :):):):)

October 21 - This shocking information sees the light of day: Elected-By-Confusion the WSI agent, Lying-President Bronisław Fake-Count Komorowski (Russian: Бронислав Коморовский, operating nickname: "gamekeeper"), abandoning for good any semblance of a good nature, and - with the insolently ostentatious arrogance - exposing his true criminal face, under the dictation of the WSI, the KGB and the international conspiracy of Jewish-Masonic-liberal-leftist-post-communist system, openly introduces to Wolska the devilish death civilization by shamefully awarding a man from the community Jordanów - who murdered his wife during drunken altercation - with the medal "For many years of married life."

- Translated from Museum of the 4th Republic

Of course not. Especially not from Polish victims of Russian criminality.


Take a look at the Polish constitution. Go on. Read it. Properly.

You can see that the architects of the constitution specifically chose to ensure that the Presidency was weak. Unlike the previous ones in 1952 and 1992 - this one made it very clear (well, not clear enough, but still) that the the Chairman of the Council of Ministers had executive power in Poland and that the Presidency was merely ceremonial. Go on - read it for yourself - what exactly is Komorowski supposed to do? The President is meant to be impartial, and his rejection of the GMO act was very much a sign to the Sejm that they shouldn't expect to pass utter rubbish in the name of "law".

Lech Kaczynski often tried to pretend that the constitution gave him executive powers - but in reality, the Presidency has none apart from the ability to veto and propose legislation. Most people in Poland don't want a President that goes around acting like an idiot - they want a statesman, someone that can be relied on to represent Poland properly.

But go on - give us a laugh - what, under the Constitution of Poland, do you propose that Komorowski should do?

And that is why Tusk did not run for the presidency. Komorowski though strikes me as quite a good speaker without notes:
youtube.com/wwwprezydentpl#p/u/32/YlJsIxwfzYA

It's one of the reasons why he defeated Sikorski in the PO Primary election - he absolutely demolished him during the public debate.

It's so funny to see PiS supporters demand that a President does more - you can tell that they haven't actually read the Constitution, nor do they understand the logic behind why the Presidency is intentionally weak.

The April/December "novelisations" clearly put too much power in the hands of the President - and they wanted to avoid another Walesa coming along who would happily interfere in all things political.

Indeed! Walesa was a terrible meddler, he had some good PMs but he just wouldn't give them a chance-it was all about him.

delphiandomine has anger problems. Even when I do not talk about PiS, he still responds to me with something negative, because he knows I support them. Basically he is now 'negatywnie nastawiony' to me. Get yourself checkout out dweeb!

I'm convinced it's why Kwasniewski (and the SLD in 1993) managed to win - Walesa's constant interference, including the veiled threats of seizing power for himself was clearly utterly against what Poles wanted from their President. It's the same with Lech Kaczynski - voters simply hated the way that he was acting as a politician rather than as a ceremonial head.


Perhaps you might want to stay on topic and discuss the Constitution rather than resorting to personal attacks. I mean - I asked a question - what, under the Constitution of Poland, do you think he should be doing?

Then again, that's normal for PiS - can't debate the topic, so insult the man instead.

Tusk and his entourage is disastrous for Poland's economy just that you remember my words when shyte will hit the pan!

Did you forget about the Green Island? Did you forget the economic growth last and this year? (4%).

Do you know that the budget deficit for the last quarters of this year is significantly lower than planned?

Do you really think that PiS would do much better?

Do you really think that you still know so much about Poland after you have lived in US for so many years?

Do you really ....................................Pawian?

Do you ever ......................................Polska?

What ........................ Ironside?

Is that what you're resorting to? Hypothetical scenarios?

You might as well not bother - PiS lost, hahahaha. etc.

After each elections, some renown PiS politicians critisize the Saviour and usually get thrown out of the party. It happened to Ludwik Dorn in 2007,

From October 31, 2005 to February 7, 2007 he was Minister of Interior and Administration, resigned after conflict with the Prime Minister Jarosław Kaczyński.

and it will probably be Tadeusz Cymański`s fate, too.

Cymański gave an interview to Wprost magazine in which he said:

PiS` election result is a painful failure.
PiS loses support because of authoritiarian leadership and lack of self criticisim.
Brown nosing in PiS structures reached the sky. The Saviour doesn`t need to engage in PiS inner conflicts, he has his stooges for that.

Claiming that 2 years of PiS rule in 2005-2007 was a success is a serious exaggeration.

The Saviour hasn`t commented on it yet but his stooges are furious.

According to Jarosław Gowin - not deputies but the Supreme Court should decide in the case of prosecutors Barski and Święczkowski, especially because a number of contradictory expertises has been voiced from the time when the marshal Schetyna expressed his opinion. - I read a few of them and ... I am not any wiser. I can see that each lawyer has his own opinion. So I am waiting for the Supreme Court decision - repeated Gowin.

- The spirit of democracy requires respect to the verdict of the voters. If their case is questionable, then these doubts should be resolved in favor of Mr. Święczkowski and Mr. Barski. If, however, the Supreme Court makes a clearly negative decision in the matter, then they, in turn, should respect this decision of the court - explained the PO MP.

Makes sense, right? Or not? Clock is ticking...

how many Germans trusted Hitler in 1941 pawian????

How many elections did Hitler get more than 40% in?

your question is more or less irrelevant to mine, capisci?

This is the old video, from the past presidential elections, but since you are talking about popularity go Gajowy I could not resist posting this little joke.

Phew ! Are you that naive ?


half of that EU funds ?


Seems to me that anybody would do better than Tusk!


Whats up pawian? Are you Lost for words and ideas ?:)

Sounds exactly like PiS - attacking PO on "what-ifs" and not concrete facts.

Phew! Are you that influenced by Gazeta Polska black propaganda? :):):)

Read about lower spendings and higher profit at the end of 2011:


Does it matter? Fact is a fact! Or isnt`?


Phew? Are you that naive? ?

BTw, answer one question: why did most people with higher education vote PO? While primary and vocational education voted PiS? Do you think it bears any significance or not? :):

If the election took part only persons with primary and vocational education , the clear winner would be the PiS - according to a poll exit poll for TVN24 TNS .

Among those with primary education Jaroslaw Kaczynski's party was unrivaled. She won up 46.9 percent . votes. Second PO had the support of 22.8 per cent level . , The third PSL 10.6 percent . , Fourth Palikot's Movement 8.8 percent . , And the fifth SLD 6.7 percent .


Nope. I counted on your intelligence and your knowledge of Polish culture/history/literature. Was I mistaken? :):):):)

you now where the higher budget income comes from? - have you noticed that everything got more expensive (including the fuels) - VAT comprises more than a half of Polish budget income - if prices in any given year rise by 10 per cent so do the state incomes from the VAT tax - I am sure it's not the sole reason why budget incomes were bigger than planned - but to be honest I would be wary of the lowering of the budget expenses - with the decrease in the value of our currency the cost of Polish foreign debt rose dramatically - the finance ministry and the NBP even coordinated theri efforts to make the złoty stronger selling their currency reserves

Według niej, niższe niż planowano wydatki spowodowane były przesunięciem na okres późniejszy głównie wydatków inwestycyjnych u niektórych dysponentów oraz wydatków pochodzących z rozdysponowanych rezerw celowych. - you've got your answer there too - planned projects have been postponed

Wow! Cracks in the monolith PiS party are getting wider and wider. I already mentioned Cymański who critizised dictatorial methods of the Saviour.
Today, Zbigniew Ziobro, the closest ally of the Saviour, suggested a change of party`s leadership in some unspecified future. He also mentioned the possibility of two parties stemming from current PiS: pragmatic centre and national, which would be able to win the majority of votes and form a coalition after next elections.

Ah, the knives are being sharpened.

Any idea when Kaczynski comes up for re-election as prezes?

That is why we have to do everything to cut down the deficit. I accept the fact that sacrifices are necessary.


Nope. I think that according to the PiS statute, he`s THE life chairman.

And whats that ? insult ? like PiS ....see if I care :D
you on the other hand sound exactly like a brain dead laddie, everything that is critical of current gov must be PiS or is PiS like....get a grip:D


You asking does it matter ?I just ask are you naive, ignorant or not not at all:)


I think thats only myth.
And even if thats the truth I think its only bids not well for Poland's future.

Motto of the week: (Sorry if I have to change it more frequently than once a week. You understand, this is very tumultuous time!)
- This is not my aim of questioning his position or recalling Jarosław Kaczyński. On the contrary - I think he is the PiS chairman and he has a strong personal position.

- Zbigniew Ziobro

Here you go!!!

Yet another motto of the week:
"Prime Minister Kaczynski reminds me of the late Mr. Kazimierz Górski. Now I'm one of his eagles" - John Tomaszewski

Applied Dialectics as demonstrated by Mr. Ziobro
(Budapest) It is not the best concept in Polish reality and we cannot wait for a miracle to happen.
- Zbigniew Ziobro
…. some time later in another interview ….
We have to do everything to follow the road shown by Mr. Orban and for PiS to become a second Fidesz. This is possible if the PiS will build a broad structure. Jarosław Kaczynski has rightly resorted to the example of Budapest and he inspires us all. I believe in President Kaczynski and I want to support him.

- Zbigniew Ziobro

Here you go!!

boletus

if you started posting Donald Tusk quotes every day you would be surprised how much of this applied dialectics you will in time find in those - try it out - why only focus on PiS members

I am sure you are right, but PO is currently boring, PiS is fun for now.