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Poland Parliament elections in October 2011


Ironside 53 | 12,363
1 Nov 2011 #931
Nobody really knows if this money has already been spent or if it is still on accounts.

Right, nobody knows, thats money and public money they should known exactly their numbers and gov should too. Why they spend fortunes on office jobs what are those people doing spreading pro PO propaganda ?

Thats money baboon, not your pay paid in peanuts.

Why are you such a bad publicist for PiS?

Why do you think that I'm supporting PiS? Is that because you are supporting PO?

But for starters - why does Przewozy Regionalne need 3 ticket checkers on every train?

Why do you think there is some many firms instead of one PKP ? All those firms which grew miraculously on public property and each have to generate monies for their offices and owners and staff.

Its no business its robbery.
Comparing unions to that is funny, it shows that you are biased.
Unions just see clearly whats going on and show them bastards F U!

that intelligent people will believe their BS.

What intelligent people ?

So, to win, you must change yourself. For the sake of the Law and Justice, and under the leadership of Jarosław Kaczynski. Ot i
wszystko."

him ? :D

boletus are you having boner while writing here all that insubstantial stuff ?congratulation ......and you lost hope.:)
OP pawian 221 | 24,014
1 Nov 2011 #932
A new great joke:

Why is Jacek Kurski going to be called Janosik? Because they will hang him for Ziobro. :):):):):):):):)

Ziobro = more or less - rib.

The date of his execution was not recorded, but it was customary to carry it out as soon as the trial was over. The manner of his execution, not in public awareness until the early 19th century, became part of his modern legend. A hook was pierced through his left side and he was left dangling on the gallows to die. This brutal way of execution was reserved for leaders of robber bands.[5] However, sources diverge about the way of his execution, and it is also possible, that Jánošík was hanged.[1] A legend says that he refused the grace offered in exchange for enlisting soldiers of his abilities with the words: "If you have baked me so you should also eat me!" and jumped on the hook

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juraj_J%C3%A1no%C5%A1%C3%ADk
Ironside 53 | 12,363
1 Nov 2011 #933
A new great joke:

Nobody really knows if this money has already been spent or if it is still on accounts.

Poland lead by great and competent PO's gov and Tusk a fact that he abuses his wife is only to his advantage, a cool dude (according to pawian).

Happy hours !
boletus 30 | 1,361
2 Nov 2011 #934
Why is Jacek Kurski going to be called Janosik? Because they will hang him for Ziobro. :):):):):):):):)

I saw all three stooges: Cymański, Ziobro, Kurski in one of those Christian programs yesterday. All of them were repeating the some mantra, which they have been doing in the last week or so: sliding into Kaczynski's back hole with apologies, yet defending their own past actions. In my previous post I was laughing at Kurski's "God-Banner-Fatherland-Leader" style, because this is where people of the very little moral backbone excel in. God save Poland if these little minnows would ever take hold of power.

Some of you may not recognize the signs, but I see them very clearly - they are all the same over the generations. People like Jerzy Lec wrote poems in 1939 glorifying Joseph Stalin, and Kurski's style is no different than Lec's. Only the addressee - the person who has been an "Engineer driving forward the locomotive of history" changes. Think about it - this is not about people leaning left or right - this about careerists, or even worse. So no, if you are looking for good opposition to TUSKU regime think further and deeper than all those three stooges plus Kaczyński.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
2 Nov 2011 #935
you are seriously something :)
boletus 30 | 1,361
2 Nov 2011 #936
Yes, but Lec was actually a good poet. Do you want to hear a sample?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
2 Nov 2011 #937
Why do you think there is some many firms instead of one PKP ? All those firms which grew miraculously on public property and each have to generate monies for their offices and owners and staff.

Perhaps ask yourself why PiS didn't do anything about it while they were in power. Oh, hang on - they're in the pocket of the trade unions, who just so happened to benefit handsomely from the breakup.
Ironside 53 | 12,363
2 Nov 2011 #938
Oh, hang on - they're in the pocket of the trade unions, who just so happened to benefit handsomely from the breakup.

its been pay off and opportunity to few, doesn't mean that it was right thing to do !

Perhaps ask yourself why PiS didn't do anything about it while they were in power

They were in power for like what? - three years - and they should be able to fix all wrongs in Poland while PO cannot even build few motorways on time for four years.
OP pawian 221 | 24,014
3 Nov 2011 #939
So, what is going on in PiS after the elections? :):):)

Yesterday, the Saviour offered the Ziobro group a "compromise": they have to give up their posts in the party and allow the Saviour decide about their fate.

Ziobro rejected that generous offer, risking expulsion.

Comments: Ziobro is already out of PiS, it is only a matter of time.
Kaczyński is playing with Ziobro like a cat with a mouse.
Ziobro counts on Father Rydzyk but he is wrong.
Kaczyński is obsessed with power, he will never give up his leadership of PiS, even if it wins mere 3% in future elections.


Guys, do you consider it?:

1) Amusing.
2) Tragic.
3) Hopeless.
4) Amazing.

I choose answer 5), i.e. unbelievable. :):):):):):) What do I mean? The most hardened PiS activists, real PiS pitbulls, are trying to wrong their beloved boss.

The most hardened PiS activists, real PiS pitbulls, are trying to wrong their beloved boss.

I love this new coinage: WyPiSani. Written off!

ll of them were repeating the some mantra, which they have been doing in the last week or so:

Yes: We are true patriots of PiS, Kaczyński is out true leader.

It is sickening.
Ironside 53 | 12,363
4 Nov 2011 #940
Lets better foucus on Poland's beloved leader Tusk, his gov and this plans for Poland for foreseeable future.
Whats that would be ?
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
4 Nov 2011 #941
Yes: We are true patriots of PiS, Kaczyński is out true leader.

It is sickening.

Never in the field of human history have so many ass lickers congregated into party with so few prospects. the PIS functionary is the ideal type of party stooge, obedient and unquestioning. Take Hoffman for example, he would make the ideal PRL functionary, and with his surname dare i say it, he would serve the National Socialists just as well.

What a contrast with PO, a party that tolerates internal competition for power. Look at Tusk and Schetyna, they are competing for power and yet still remain on very good terms, contrast this with Kaczynski who takes everything personally and is intolerant of dissent, no wonder he surrounds himself with brain dead conformist toadies.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
4 Nov 2011 #942
Give them one piece of credit - party discipline is exceptionally strong within PiS. Not in a good way, of course - and they've lost most of the political talent who would be capable of forming a government, but...still.

I dare say that Kaczynski learnt well from his father - PZPR discipline was always quite strong.

What a contrast with PO, a party that tolerates internal competition for power.

Yup, the PO primary for the Presidential candidature was a fantastic example.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
5 Nov 2011 #943
Give them one piece of credit - party discipline is exceptionally strong within PiS. Not in a good way, of course - and they've lost most of the political talent who would be capable of forming a government, but...still.

They are, but this discipline is not self imposed. These are talentless individuals who can't do anything besides politics, and the prospect of them going outside of the party structure, God forbid forming their own party and possibly not making it into parliament again, would be a total disaster, and the end of their meager existence as they know it. So it's a discipline borne out of the basest form of cowardice.

I dare say that Kaczynski learnt well from his father - PZPR discipline was always quite strong.

Yes, his old man must have told him all about being a good communist.
OP pawian 221 | 24,014
5 Nov 2011 #944
I think it is time to let this thread rest, after very hot exploitation. The elections of 2011 took place one month ago. They didn`t change much, because PO and PSL remained in power.

At the same time, we can say the elections have shattered the Polish political scene quite considerably. The surprising success of Palikot party, the failure of post -communists, breakup in PiS - Poland is changing on our eyes.

New attitudes, new times, new people, new circumstances require a new approach.

We need a new thread.

I would like to kindly invite you to check this out: https://polishforums.com/news/poland-political-circus-55053/

Let this cartoon be its advertisement:

To the parliament? Just turn right. You can`t miss it.

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Thank you all for participation. We have done excellent task here. I did have a lot of fun, contributing my serious opinions and mild jokes, and discussing things with you.

PS. Dear mods, can you keep it non-archive for a while? There are some predictions here about Poland`s future, either bright or grim, which might be debated after some time passes.

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