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Poland is the new military power of Europe.


OP Miloslaw  21 | 4990
12 Jun 2023   #241
Peddle your "Global Britain" trash amongst your Tory boyfriends

HaHaHaHa..... you won't be laughing much longer.......

An island drowning in Muslim and black refugees

You have obviously never been to the UK Rich.
If you want to retain any credibility,please don't comment on stuff you obviously know nothing about!
Pawloff
13 Jun 2023   #242
In fact, when this war is over, some parts of the former ruzzian federation may become part of Greater Poland.

Hell freezes over before that happens. Try to occupy Ukrainian or Belarusian territory, and you will enjoy some nukes coming your way. NATO will drop you like a hot potato. Except for the Brits, that is. As history has shown us time and again, they love to meddle and start wars, but then let others do the fighting.
jon357  73 | 23033
13 Jun 2023   #243
Hell freezes over before that happens

If you'd bothered to read the post, you'd notice the phrase, right at the start: "when the war is over". Since r*SSia will have been denuclearised by then, their imperialist sabre rattling is irrelevant.

NATO

Perhaps becoming a nuclear power within NATO, one of the three that already exist, is the way forward for Poland.

Obviously, Moscow will be smouldering ruins by then, however there's good farm land round there and plenty of bonded Labour who can work hard in the fields as part of r*SSia's reparations.
amiga500  5 | 1493
13 Jun 2023   #244
plenty of bonded Labour who can work hard in the fields

Indeed. To misquote Leonard Cohen

Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Ruski Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows
Pawloff
13 Jun 2023   #245
you'd notice the phrase, right at the start: "when the war is over"

You believe that Ukraine, Belarus or Lithuania will stand idly by and watch the Poles occupy their lands? Poland seems to be a lot like Israel. Playing the eternal victim, but in reality an aggressor.

Perhaps becoming a nuclear power within NATO, one of the three that already exist, is the way forward for Poland.

The Yanks said no to that already. Try and see for yourself what will happen.

Your politicians are dangerous. They still dream of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, just like a few folks on this forum. "In two weeks in Berlin", and then your country got laughtered in 8. Give it another try. The first humiliating defeat was obviously not enough.
Novichok  5 | 7744
13 Jun 2023   #246
Your politicians are dangerous.

...like anybody who feels braver than he is entitled to. That DC speed dial phone may be one of the reasons.
Hey, Pawloff, what country is lucky to have you?
Alien  24 | 5669
13 Jun 2023   #247
Hey, Pawloff, what country is lucky to have you?

What, you don't know the Pavlovian reflex?
Novichok  5 | 7744
13 Jun 2023   #248
I didn't want to assume so I asked.
jon357  73 | 23033
13 Jun 2023   #249
You believe that Ukraine, Belarus or Lithuania will stand idly by and watch the Poles occupy their lands?

Who suggested that? Not me. We're talking about parts of the (soon to be former) r*SSian 'federation'. Not independent sovereign countries like Lithuania and Ukraine.

Brush up on your comprehension skills, orc.

The Yanks said no to that already

It's up to Poland not them. They tried to stop France and the U.K. too, who both told them to f*ck off.

then your country got laughtered in 8.

In the eleventh century was the last time. And it took decades to do.

What is 'laughtered'? Is it a r*SSian word?

As you were told, Poland is set to be one of Europe's (and therefore the world's) main military powers.

Unlike r*SSia who people mistakenly thought had the second best army in the world. After last summer, they learned that it was the second best army in Ukraine. Now, the world knows that the r*SSian army is the second best army in r*SSia.
Novichok  5 | 7744
13 Jun 2023   #250
Not independent sovereign countries like Lithuania and Ukraine.

Any country that hooks up with the US and UK warmongers is neither independent nor sovereign. Ask Germany.
jon357  73 | 23033
13 Jun 2023   #251
Don't be silly.

Lithuania and Ukraine ar independent sovereign states. The first is a full member of NATO and the second will be.

You don't have to attempt to gain say every post. It just makes you look like a tit.
OP Miloslaw  21 | 4990
13 Jun 2023   #252
Poland seems to be a lot like Israel. Playing the eternal victim, but in reality an aggressor.

Russian troll moron alert!!!!

What a ridiculous statement!

Poland an aggressor?And never a victim????

Please go and read some history books,not Russian ones,before you post again.....
Novichok  5 | 7744
13 Jun 2023   #253
Lithuania and Ukraine ar independent sovereign states.

Hey, English professor, "independent" means able to function on its own.
When you need the US to survive, you are an American parasite and the US is the host.
Pawloff
13 Jun 2023   #254
In the eleventh century was the last time.

1939 never happened, right?

Poland an aggressor?

Need some examples? 6 November 1918, June 1919, and November 1938, Polish forces entered Spiš. Polish-Ukrainian War 1918/19.
jon357  73 | 23033
14 Jun 2023   #255
1939 never happened, right?

In 1939 we declared war against an authoritarian state who invaded Poland at the same time ruzzia invaded.

The age of authoritarianism in Europe is however over.

And don't be sarcastic. It makes you look as stupid and mentally unhealthy as 'novichok'.

you are an American parasite

Are you suggesting Lithuania and Poland are American parasites?
Pawloff
15 Jun 2023   #256
The age of authoritarianism in Europe is however over.

If you really believe that then I don't understand why you were arguing that

In fact, when this war is over, some parts of the former ruzzian federation may become part of Greater Poland.

Why and how? You seem to favor an aggressive Poland with nukes and the military power to grab land that doesn't belong to her. In my book that is called imperialism, and with it comes authoritarianism.
jon357  73 | 23033
15 Jun 2023   #257
then I don't understand

I expect you're used to that.

In my book that is called imperialism,

In everyone else's, that is called the reality of ruzzia's fate.

and with it comes authoritarianism.

In ruzzia perhaps. Poland is however a democratic culture.
Pawloff
15 Jun 2023   #258
Poland is however a democratic culture.

Kaczyński and the PiS are fine examples.

I expect you're used to that

Running out of arguments?
jon357  73 | 23033
15 Jun 2023   #259
Kaczyński and the PiS are fine examples.

Yes they are.

Democratically elected by majority vote and likely to be replaced democratically at the next election.

Running out of arguments?

Yes, you are.
OP Miloslaw  21 | 4990
15 Jun 2023   #260
Poland with nukes and the military power to grab land that doesn't belong to he

Poland has invaded and overtook lands in it's history, but Poland has never been an empire builder,like Germany,Austria,France,Spain,The Netherlands,Portugal Great Britain and even Italy!

So what is your point?
gumishu  15 | 6175
16 Jun 2023   #261
and the military power to grab

the thing is noone of any significance in Poland is calling for ANY land grabs - and the Polish military buildup is caused by the Russian neighbourhood nothing else
Kashub1410  6 | 580
16 Jun 2023   #262
@gumishu
You won't convince him due to their lack of insight in to Polish affairs. They think Polish expansion to the east was national policy and not initiative of certain factions or only a few individuals.

This fact would too much too handle for them if they accepted that Moscow was invaded by a only a small partion of Polish society due to internal conflict of the Monarch with the Polish nobility who tried to expand his power and possibility of ruling Poland with firmer grip by having direct control over Russia.

It would be too devastating for them, so they are utterly convinced that Poland as a nation wants to subjecate Russia
Bobko  27 | 2088
16 Jun 2023   #263
if they accepted that Moscow was invaded by a only a small partion of Polish society due to internal conflict

Lol. In this manner, nearly every war can be whitewashed. Look:

"If Poles only accepted, that past partitions were driven by leaders of the Russian state, that were not even ethnically Russian, spoke primarily French, and were all but completely isolated from 99% of the rest of the population."

It would be too devastating for them, so they are utterly convinced that Poland as a nation wants to subjecate Russia

Don't flatter yourself too much. Fantasizing about subjugation at the hands of the Poles is more a Ukrainian national past time. I don't think that many serious people in Russia think that Poland wants to "subjugate" us, or is even remotely capable of doing so.

Poland is viewed more as an annoying member of the crowd that seems to enjoy winding everybody up. "Hey! Did you see what he just did there?!" and "Aren't you gonna do something about it?"

Poland is basically Paulina.
Paulina  16 | 4338
16 Jun 2023   #264
@GefreiterKania lol That's pretty narrow-minded.

Half of my class at art school were boys and only one of them was gay :)

Get back to the topic please
Bobko  27 | 2088
16 Jun 2023   #265
I had some thoughts about why Poland harbors all these strange paranoias about Russia.

Poland - really - is a caricature of a Great Power. If it thinks other don't notice, that's only Poland's fault. Everyone can see how Poland is very comfortable wearing the "big brother" mask around Lithuania, Slovakia, Belarus, Hungary, and even Czechia (somebody here keeps posting a graphic that shows how much more population and resources Poland has than the Czechs). Poland is many times bigger than its neighbors, and enjoys throwing its weight around.

The mere existence of Germany and Russia at its borders, two states that dwarf Poland's ambitions in terms of their reach, raises Poland's blood pressure. It's a constant reminder that there is a further "tier" above its little Visegrad and Intermarium bullsh!t. An ever present "reality check", that does not let Polish chauvinism flourish in all its glory, and instead makes Poland toxically vindictive.

If somebody is greater and stronger than Poland then there must be something intrinsically wrong with those countries. Russians are thieves and rapists, while Germans are soulless and murderous. In this way, Poland regains the higher moral ground and can continue feeling superior despite all outside indications to the contrary.

But seriously, please don't pretend Poland does not throw its weight around with its smaller neighbors. In some instances it behaves worse than Russia. For example, the tone in which Polish politicians speak to Lithuanian politicians. Reminds one of how Britain spoke to the Maharajas of India.
GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
16 Jun 2023   #266
@Bobko

As usual your analysis is 50% surprisingly correct, 50% exaggeration, and 50% bullsh*t.

But you are slowly gaining deep knowledge of Poland. Stick around. :)
Ironside  50 | 12354
16 Jun 2023   #267
@Bobko
A@Bobko
Are russian? Talking stuff that makes little sense.
Bobko  27 | 2088
16 Jun 2023   #268
50% surprisingly correct, 50% exaggeration, and 50% bullsh*t.

Very well, sir, but you could you now explain what the structural breakdown is by associated claim?

Are russian? Talking stuff that makes little sense.

Please, I'm not a mind reader. What do you mean?
GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
16 Jun 2023   #269
what the structural breakdown is by associated claim?

This, young Jedi, you will for yourself figure out have to.
Ironside  50 | 12354
16 Jun 2023   #270
@Bobko
🇵🇱 Poland and Russia are locked in struggle for the domination of this part of the world. For the last 300 years Russia 🇷🇺 had m9stly an upper hand. This can change.

Russians know it. You don't, are you Russian or a wannabe..


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