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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10


Paulina 16 | 4,393
29 Mar 2024 #721
You obviously have not been to the US of late.

I've never been to the US and that's why I keep asking you guys about the stats in that video, but noone answers me :)))

In the US women do not stay at home to work, less than 20% stay home for more than a few weeks, then the kid is off to daycare.

Listen, I don't know what the situation in the US is like, but I'm guessing that it's women who are staying with kids at home when they get sick (and small kids often get sick), not men, etc.

Also, there are different levels of gender pay gaps in different countries. So why do you think it's like that? In Poland the situation is apparently quite good in comparison to other countries. Interestingly, the gender pay gap in Poland is much smaller in the private sector than in the public sector. Why do you think is that? Are women "far superior" employees in some countries than in others? Are Polish women "far superior" employees in a private sector than in a public sector? Are they working longer hours, harder and better?

And you were just arguing about reduced population growth, so how are women haveing more children?

Where did I write that "women are having more children"?

The facts are that less than 4% of men are over 183 cm, making more than 200K USD, handsome and fit. Women want the absolute best,

Well, who wouldn't want the "absolute best", but, AGAIN, I'm asking - are they pursuing those unrealistic fantasies until they die alone (and how many women are like that in the US) or do they settle for what they can actually get like most people? So, AGAIN, are those stats given in this video true or not?:

facebook.com/share/v/QbPvBcheKAg368xe/
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #722
And this is why men are staying away from western women.

As one guy said: If I have to have a strong and independent woman I might as well be gay.

You must be watching the same YouTube videos I do. According to many, soon 50% of women in the US will be single and childless because they are strong, independent, demanding, and bitchy.

I just watched one where one of these equality freaks said: What he earns is ours. What I earn is mine.

No, she didn't blush...
Paulina 16 | 4,393
29 Mar 2024 #723
And this is why men are staying away from western women.

So Western men are not getting married to Western women anymore? Really? Like... none at all? :D
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #724
the gender pay gap

There is no "gender pay gap". There is pay gap.

"Gender pay gap" is a lie that assumes that employers pay on the basis of XX vs XY. Or penis vs vagina. Or facial hair.
Paulina 16 | 4,393
29 Mar 2024 #725
There is no "gender pay gap".

There is. And there are stats concerning this.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 991
29 Mar 2024 #726
facebook.com/share/v/QbPvBcheKAg368xe/

I watched the video. This is close to accurate, but does not take into account what the man is looking for in a woman. And does not take into account the changing standards of young women in particular. Most young American women have absolutely no idea of what the value of money really is, or how much a lot of money really is. They believe the Tic Tok dreamers and all the fake posters. This is really just how stupid in general young American women are. Sorry if that offends you but its true, they are just ignorant and stupid for the most part.

When you talk about women staying home with children, raising children, or staying home when they are sick, you are assuming a rising birth rate and that so many are doing this. They are not, and it is not how it works in the USA.

Polish women in general are far better educated than American women. And better educated than most Polish men. Pay equality is not surprising here in my opinion.

Western men, more and more are either staying single, or marying European or Asian women. Speaking for myself, I would never marry an American woman again for all the reasons we have discussed. Traditional roles worked for thousands of years, and now western women want to change that. Ok. So its changed, and masculine men are walking away from feminist women.

I hope one day you go to the US and just observe people for a few days. Watch some US news and programming. See how they act in public and treat men. You will come running back to Europe. I cant stand even visiting the US any more. It is more like a mental hospital than a country.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #727
There is. And there are stats concerning this.

There is also gender birth gap. I mean that women are forced to deliver more babies than men.
After delivery, women suffer from the gender breastfeeding gap. Men just refuse...
Also, women are ripped off when they get hair cuts.
Have you seen the prices of women's shoes? Some sell for 5000 bucks vs 100 for men.
And then women are charged insane amounts for fake breasts and Brazilian butts compared to what men pay for these technological wonders.
mafketis 37 | 10,913
29 Mar 2024 #728
then explain these comments of yours to me, please

Bernays did not succeed in making all women smoke, he _did_ succeed in convincing a non-trivial number of women to smoke and he did that by linking the ideas of 'smoking' and 'emancipation'...

Same now. The cultural drumbeat of 'don't have kids' or the general unaffordability of children for many young people does not come close to convincing everyone. But it does influence a non-trivial number of women to delay marriage until well after it's realistically too late for children. I think that's unfortunate and many will later regret it...

Other factors nurse unrealistic expectations in both young men and women that will probably lead to lifetime of loneliness.

It's like the 'trans kids' movement.... people are targetted and a number of vulnerable, confused people end up having life altering surgery (that is irreversible) without being aware of what the consequences are.

For women the unfortunate truth is: The more they prioritize career and independence and gaining experiences in their early 20s the less likely they are to get married and have kids...

For men the unfortunate truth is: The more they withdraw into gaming and **** (and.... mechanical.... relief...) the less likely they are to want to get married and have kids.

Both young men and young women are horribly ignorant of the real hurdles that the other sex faces and are less and less empathetic and isolated and atomized and none of that is good.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #729
I think that's unfortunate and many will later regret it...

At 30, they hit the "wall" of desperation if they are not married and know how to count.

It's like the 'trans kids' movement....

Doctors who do it should be shot. Before they are shot, they should be interviewed the FSB way why they did it.

Both young men and young women are horribly ignorant

They suffer from the Forever 21 syndrome.
Lenka 5 | 3,495
29 Mar 2024 #730
I must say that I actually find the opposite. It's the women that actually have been in a long term relationships and often have kids that become more choosey or saying outright I had enough. Young girls are still as romantically inclined as I remembered from my younger years
AntV 5 | 643
29 Mar 2024 #731
I'm curious what this "sharing household responsibilities" looks like

I do the things I'm good at and she does what she's good at. We work together toward the shared goal of having a operating and happy household. It's a loving partnership-not a competition between opposite sexes.
Lenka 5 | 3,495
29 Mar 2024 #732
It's a loving partnership

Partnership does suggest more or less equal workload and responsibilities.

It's of course between the couple but I noticed a trend. It's always men who say how the balance work in their relationship. Women more often say how, well, everything is on their head

To the point where two single mother told me how their lives are actually easier after they finished their relationships.
AntV 5 | 643
29 Mar 2024 #733
young men and women that will probably lead to lifetime of loneliness.

There was an article early this year that dealt with the crisis of depression and suicide among young people (I think they defined young as 40 and younger). The main culprit is loneliness. For whatever reasons, younger people are losing the skills of how to develop relationships.

Part of it, as you point out, is it is much easier nowadays to withdrawal into artificial things like gaming, p0rn, social media, etc.

But, those are just means to withdrawal. We are going to need to address the reasons why they want to withdrawal in the first place on a social level if we want our societies to flourish. It seems we don't really want to do that with any seriousness on a macro-level; which probably has something to do with the tyranny of neoliberalism/relativism.
AntV 5 | 643
29 Mar 2024 #734
Partnership does suggest more or less equal workload and responsibilities

I disagree. A partnership means a coming together.

Your single mother sample can be countered with single mothers whose lives aren't easier. I'd surmise that your sample probably hurried into their relationship and found out too late that the dude was dead weight. And, you know, it works the other way round too. Plenty of women who are dead weight.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #735
After the bs of "me-too" and "women must be believed", men don't approach women as they used to. Add to it the new definition of rape plus a chance of being sued decades later, and little wonder why men take the "who needs this shyt" attitude more often than ever.
AntV 5 | 643
29 Mar 2024 #736
@Novichok

You wear cynicism like a tailor-made suit. 😄
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #737
What I just posted is from YouTube videos on this subject. I just happen to agree with them.
Crnogorac3 4 | 867
29 Mar 2024 #738
Intel Slava Z
🇷🇺 Putin about the third world war.

1. Russia has no intention of fighting NATO;
2. Falsifications about a possible attack on Poland, the Baltic states and the Czech Republic are a way to deceive the population of these countries;
3. Russia will destroy F-16s in Ukraine in the same way as it destroys Western tanks and other equipment;
4. If F-16s are used against the Russian Armed Forces from airfields in third countries, then these airfields will become a legitimate target for the Russian Federation
Lenka 5 | 3,495
29 Mar 2024 #739
A partnership means a coming together.

If one side is noticeably more burdened with responsibilities it's not coming together, it's exploitation.

As to the single mothers, one I don't know the beginnings but the other didn't rush into things at all. It's just that once kids appear the responsibilities increase dramatically. Harder to compensate for your partner.

But if we take your rhetoric and say they were dead weight and that the women shouldn't have kids with them then we are taking 3 kids that shouldn't have been born...
Novichok 4 | 8,117
29 Mar 2024 #740
1. Russia has no intention of fighting NATO;

That's why NATO is doing its damnest to provoke Russia.

How else would the warmongering scumbags justify NATO's existence decades after the Warsaw Pact just disappeared?
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
29 Mar 2024 #741
If one side is noticeably more burdened with responsibilities

Do you mean motherhood?

Well, that is one thing which will always be different between man and women! Maybe even the real basic reason for most of the differences, social and cultural...but they are also biological and scientifical....women are made by nature to bear the children, to nurture them....(most) men are just not!

So...total equality is an illusion, and always will be...I don't know how to change that.
Crnogorac3 4 | 867
29 Mar 2024 #742
Nick Griffin
@NickGriffinBU
They are, of course, not 'traitors' even in law, since the UK has not declared war on Russia. The real traitors are the political & media elites who are dragging Britain into wars in which we have no legitimate interest, and on the wrong sides at that.

But this hysteria isn't aimed at the two volunteer fighters. The real target of this 77 Brigade psyop is the entire British public. Including you. The aim is to intimidate everyone who might speak out against the warmongering, tax hikes, and conscription.

Well, they'll not fool or intimidate me! What about you?
#Russia #Palestine
#Ukraine #Israel

b

Minnis and his fellow mercenary Ben Stimson, 48, have been branded traitors by a former British Army commander for fighting alongside Putin's regular troops.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13246981/Aiden-Minnis-traitor-Russia-Ukraine-die-Putin-forces.html
cms neuf 1 | 1,812
29 Mar 2024 #743
Why do you keep quoting Nick Griffin ? He is the leader of the UKs tiny neo fascist party and so it's obvious he would support Udmurtia's fascist regime.

Just like how the USSR was allied with Fascist Germany
Crnogorac3 4 | 867
29 Mar 2024 #744


'TRAITORS!': TWO British men who fight for Russia against Ukraine grilled for 'treason'
Lenka 5 | 3,495
29 Mar 2024 #745
So...total equality is an illusion, and always will be...I don't know how to change that.

Total equality is not necessary. People have different preferences, relationships have different dynamics and there are different needs at different stages. Burdening one side with most tasks for the duration of a relationship is something else

to nurture them....(most) men are just not!

Yeah, changing nappies is just too challenging for men....
Or vacuuming, washing the dishes, scrubbing the toilet or actually paying attention when going to parent teacher meeting.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 991
29 Mar 2024 #746
@Lenka
I dont think you understand a true relationship then. For instance, I work, my wife does not. I have all the financial responsibility, and she has the bulk of the responsibility at home, though I help when I can or am in the mood to make dinner for instance. While you may not call that balanced, we do, and I work from home 90% of the time.

Women, in the US primarily, think they need to have this incredible career. They think they need to or should compete with men. Men on the other hand dont GAF how much money a woman makes or if she thinks she needs to compete. Even if my wife had a job, I would never see any money from her because I dont GAF what she does with money or how much she has. I wouldnt let her pay for things, because that is my role. And if women have a problem with that, I wish them and their 100 cats the best in their long and lonely lives.
AntV 5 | 643
29 Mar 2024 #747
@Lenka

My point is that this belief that women all across the West are burdened by motherhood and exploited by men is not true.

As far as dead weight, my point there is that men aren't the only dead weight in some relationships. Women too can be dead weight in a relationship.

My overarching theme in this is that the cry of feminism is built on a factual lie (that women are exploited by men whole cloth) and that it perpetuates discord and division in that it pits men and women in a competition AGAINST one another, instead of fostering healthy relationships.

Like BB said some things are simply unequal by nature, so to look at the woman-man relationship as something akin to an equal contract is simply unnatural. It's about complementarity-and in such there is no room for exploitation.

Saying men don't change diapers, clean, etc. is a caricature. Men do such things.
Lenka 5 | 3,495
29 Mar 2024 #748
And if women have a problem with that, I wish them and their 100 cats the best in their long and lonely lives.

News flash to you- not agreeing with your view doesn't mean the women is/ will be single.

Even if my wife had a job, I would never see any money from her because I dont GAF

And I don't GAF if a men thinks it's not my role to contribute financially. I want the safety of having my own income, the benefit of time outside of housework etc, my pension etc.

But then I enjoy working
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
29 Mar 2024 #749
Now to get back on topic.

Vladimir Putin humiliated as Russia loses nearly 800 troops and dozens of vehicles in one day !

msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-humiliated-as-russia-loses-nearly-800-troops-and-dozens-of-vehicles-in-one-day/ar-BB1kKu2M?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=6dbcff372f0a443aabaca97a013e00ab&ei=18
AntV 5 | 643
29 Mar 2024 #750
@Lenka

Yes, and it's this neoliberal/relativistic point-of-view that Maf has expounded on. It's the consequences of this point of view that we as a society will be dealing with-low birth rates being one of those consequences. Your pension will feel the effects of that consequence.


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