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New "Polish memorial" in Berlin


dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
17 Jan 2021 #121
but for that I would need a stronger Poland...so there!

So we share a dream. not sure how Poland will grow stronger anytime soon.
Spike31 2 | 2,109
18 Jan 2021 #122
A can see a few things that Poland can do to strengthen its position:

#1 Putting an end to the Russo-German project of Nord Stream II. This is can't be done by Poland and the Baltic States alone since both Russia and Germany only listens to those who are stronger than them, which brings me to point no.2

#2 Poland should not allow the US to be pushed out from European politics (which is a Franco-German plan for the EU). Poland should become the hub for the interest of the United States in Europe but also make it clear that America would return the favor and back us up when necessary.

#3 Poland should ignore the threats coming from the overly socialist welfare states of the "old Europe" ("old" in more ways than one) and boost its economy by attracting FDI's with a tax system similar to that employed by the UK and Ireland. In the simple words of Bill Clinton: 'economy, stupid!'
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
18 Jan 2021 #123
Poland should become the hub for the interest of the United States

If only this could be possible, sadly the new ingrate democratic government is about to $hit on Poland big style, they won't forgive the support Poland gave to Trump anytime soon.
Spike31 2 | 2,109
18 Jan 2021 #124
America as a country has interests first and foremost, not personal sympathies and antipathies.

Both republicans and democrats were in favor of sanctions since 2019. And nothing has changed in the case of NS II.
Ironside 50 | 10,939
18 Jan 2021 #125
I'm also opposed to that pipeline by now.

Well your next leader is clearly in love with northstream and Putin. lol!
Strzelec35 13 | 1,167
18 Jan 2021 #126
id rather be in love with Putin than quqsi religious pis. at least Putin has charisma and knows judo and how to ride a horse. what charisma does KaczyƄski have?
OP Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
18 Jan 2021 #127
Poland should not allow the US to be pushed out from European politics

Actually that is more a french thing....they are also more than happy with GB gone. That all strengthens more their half of the Union...whereas Germans are sad to see them go, both of them, as that weakens them.

Its another sign of your "unsmartness" that you keep always putting France and Germany into the same basket, as if their goals are always identical! As if they were twins, naturally joint by the hip. But we are anything but, since the times of the Roman Empire, since Gallia was conquered and Germania stayed free we have developed differently...the default line, the Rhine, cutting across Europe. You don't know your european history at all!

It's like wrong math...you will never get the desired outcome if you calculate with the wrong variables!

Well your next leader is clearly in love with northstream and Putin. lol!

Who is my next leader???
Novichok - | 2,111
18 Jan 2021 #128
that you keep always putting France and Germany into the same basket,

Because France and Germany form the critical mass the same way as a stupid victim and an evil scum form Part A and Part B for hell to break loose. Two Parts A or Parts B - peace and quiet.
Tacitus 2 | 1,229
18 Jan 2021 #129
whereas Germans are sad to see them go, both of them, as that weakens them.

Indeed, something that is often lost in the debate is how closely London and Berlin usually worked together on European policies, especially those that concerned the economy. The British free market approach is much more comfortable to the German mind-set than the French "Big state companies are the best" viewpoint.
OP Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
18 Jan 2021 #130
France is extremely centralist, Germany values federalism....France is much more socialist, Germany is not...France sees itself rather as the patron of the South of Europe and was not happy at all about the enlargement to the East, etc...etc...etc...
Novichok - | 2,111
18 Jan 2021 #131
Let me help you... Girly men vs manly men. No contest.
Spike31 2 | 2,109
18 Jan 2021 #132
France and Germany into the same basket (...) As if they were twins

Actually, I see the Franco-German duo more like a couple than twins.

Gerry pays for the upkeep and the expensive taste of his girlfriend Franny. And in return, loudmouth Franny says on public forums things that Gerry cannot say himself due to his troubled past.

The British free market approach is much more comfortable to the German mind-set

That may be, but also a stern British opposition to the federalization of the EU was against "EU core" long-term plans for Europe. And also with its independent stance and special privileges (negotiated by the one and only Margaret Thatcher) within the EU Britain was setting a "bad example" for the rest of the members.

All I can say is that I'm happy for Britain that they left but that fact also leaves us with a much worse European union...
OP Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
18 Jan 2021 #133
Gerry pays for the upkeep and the expensive taste of his girlfriend Franny

That implies abit of sympathy at least, if not love! ;)

Just imagine Poland taking over the place of GB on the table....more free market, less socialism...more political and economical pragmatism...
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
18 Jan 2021 #134
more free market, less socialism

Poles, free market, less socialism? As if. Even the alleged hard right-wing party in Poland has an element which believes in economic policy being dictated by the government and not by the free market.
OP Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
18 Jan 2021 #135
....that would be National-Socialism then...

They don't have to follow Germans in everything, don't they!
Ironside 50 | 10,939
19 Jan 2021 #136
Who is my next leader???

Armin Laschet...lol! What a name.

Even the

Don't pretend you know much about it.
Spike31 2 | 2,109
19 Jan 2021 #138
Armin Laschet...lol! What a name

I've heard that in Germany he was nicknamed 'turkish Armin' because of his love for multikulti.
Tacitus 2 | 1,229
19 Jan 2021 #139
Quite the contrary, he has done a lot for the integration of the Turkish community in the NRW.

He has the making of a decent chancellor, though he will have giant shoes to fill.
Spike31 2 | 2,109
19 Jan 2021 #140
He looks to me like a cheerful German version of Francois Hollande who was known for his lack of charisma. If they both share that same trace this may be good for Poland.

Some sources also claim that he is an EU federalist, which is terrible in any case.



Tacitus 2 | 1,229
19 Jan 2021 #141
Charisma is something most Germans do not value in their leaders any more for certain reasons.

What matters is that he is the prime minster of Germany's largest state which he has so far guided reasonably succesful through the pandemic.

EU federalist, which is terrible in any case

The dream of a fully united Europe is one we all share, don't we? It is the best way to ensure peace and prosperity for Europe for the future. But to my knowledge he has not really said much about his foreign policy ideas.
Spike31 2 | 2,109
19 Jan 2021 #142
he has not really said much about his foreign policy ideas

Let's give him a chance to do so then. He is not a chancellor yet anyway.

The dream of a fully united Europe is one we all share, don't we?

No, we don't. I believe in Europe of independent nation-states connected together with a free trade agreement.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
19 Jan 2021 #143
Charisma is something most Germans do not value in their leaders

Really? Kohl seemed to have an abundance of charisma, as did Brandt. The only genuinely uncharismatic leader I can think of was Honecker, who by all accounts (even the accounts of his former comrades) was an incredibly boring person.
Tacitus 2 | 1,229
19 Jan 2021 #144
Kohl seemed to have an abundance of charisma, as did Brandt

You are right with Brandt, in his case it helps that he belonged to the resistance against the Nazi, that eased possible suspiscions against him. Kohl however was rather dull in public appearances. The press made often fun of his borish behaviour, comparing him unfavourably to his predecessor Schmidt, who knew how to present himself as a true intellectual. Kohl was however very charming in personal meetings and managed to woo pretty much every foreign politician he met, which came in handy 1989/90.

The point is, being charismatic is not necessary for becoming chancellor in Germany. Germans do appreciate charisma in foreign leaders, otherwise JFK and Obama would not have been as popular as they are/were.
OP Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
19 Jan 2021 #145
With Laschet the CDU will tank in East-Germany, as the SPD already does....both of their top league personal, their heartlands and most of their voters, are western....the East doesn't really exist for them (besides some empty sunday speeches), that will show in their policies and their election results.

He is "Merkelianer", totally approved by "her", with him the movement of the CDU to the left will keep on going...no change, no new "Aufbruch" whatsover. Not what the country needs!

Additionally to that the CDU base was against him, the leadership had still decided for him, going against the majority of the CDU delegates...the split with the base is deep already. That too is potential for a coming conflict sooner or later...

I believe in Europe of independent nation-states connected together with a free trade agreement.

A free trade agreement isn't going to cut it if Europe wants to keep its seat at the top table in the new world order....that's the problem!
Zanko
19 Jan 2021 #146
Great! Now Germany needs to lend a helping hand to Poles economically and offer to partially fund restoration of old architecture ruined in WWII.
Novichok - | 2,111
19 Jan 2021 #147
Now Germany needs to lend a helping hand to Poles economically

No. It would be like marrying your rapist.
Vlad1234 16 | 754
17 Feb 2021 #148
The Bundestag voted today (October 30th, 2020) with a large majority that Berlin should have its own place to remember the Polish victims

Probably no Ukrainian or Belarussian victims deserve remembrance in Germany... Therefore only nations which are members of EU and NATO.
OP Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
17 Feb 2021 #149
Probably no Ukrainian or Belarussian victims deserve remembrance in Germany...

Yes, they deserve it too...are they even asking?
Novichok - | 2,111
17 Feb 2021 #150
Probably no Ukrainian or Belarussian victims deserve remembrance in Germany.

How about the Russians...Twenty or so million victims are hard to overlook.


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