Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations

Not "Eastern Poland" but the so-called Закерзоння, which some Ukrainians still claim to be their land (remember the lovely FB group "Закерзоння - it is Ukrainian Land"?).

And I already gave you the reason: Ukrainians would be persuaded to give up C, D and L, so that Russia could have her victory and peace could be negotiated, and - in return - they would be granted "their" lands in Poland, within the "union" first, and then when the union breaks up as their legitimate land.


'Slowly' is the keyword here.

Why do they claim so???


That is pure paranoia of yours, indeed. :):):)

Ask them.


If this "Polish-Ukrainian union" ever happens, then we will see if I was paranoic or not.

However, it's better to be careful and avoid any such craziness.

And you don`t know?? Or you don`t want to say??? :):):)

I don't give a toss. The fact is that there are Ukrainians who think that "Zakerzonia" should belong to Ukraine. What happens inside their sick minds is none of my concern. I just want Poland to stay away from any idea of union with Ukraine.

Why??? Tell us, stop these paranoic evasions. :):):)

@pawian

You misquote me. I wrote that "there are Ukrainians who think that "Zakerzonia" should belong to Ukraine" not that ""Zakerzonia" should belong to Ukraine".

Why do they think so? Beats me. Probably because they are Ukrainian imperialists. Fekk them!!! :)

Did you write what you wrote?? Yes, you did. Did I distort your words in my quoting in any way??? No, I didn`t. So, what`s the problem???

Still evading, I see. Amasing! :):):)


Are you an idiot tonight???? :):):)

OK, Pawian, I am looking at my watch and it is definitely time for you to jump on my pukiel. :)

Bye.

hahaha Kania, you know that I caught you and it is so funny when you are desperately trying to wiggle out of it. :):):)


Do you really think I will relinquish?? You are not only an idiot tonight but also a cretin. hahaha buhahahaha

The show will go on :):):)

You took my quote saying "there are Ukrainians who think that "Zakerzonia" should belong to Ukraine", quoted it as ""Zakerzonia" should belong to Ukraine", and asked me why. It's as if I said "It is a lie that I stole the money" and you quoted only the "I stole the money" part, and asked me why. :):):) Mere trolling as usual.


The show of your usual mental retardation. :)

It doesn`t matter. I always try to make my quotes short not to pollute the forum`s memory. You are concentrating on unimportant issues while there is a bigger one still pending your answer.

Stop evading the core issue, I am deploring for the 5th time. :):):).

Answer the simple question: Why do some Ukrainians think that your Zakerzonia which is a part of Eastern Poland should belong to them?????


Really? I asked you a question. You answered you don`t know which is quite impossible knowing that you are an expert on Polish history as good as I am. Stop playing an idiot coz I won`t give up.

I already did...



... I can put it in simpler and shorter words for you: I don't know and I don't care.

Really? You don`t know??? Quite impossible knowing that you are an expert on Polish history as good as I am.

Stop playing an idiot coz I won`t give up. :):):

Answer my simple question: Why do Ukrainians think that part of Eastern Poland should belong to them?

Try to understand: the sooner you answer, the better for you. Whenever you come to this thread, you will be asked this question.

On Polish history - maybe, on Ukrainian delusions - certainly not. What's your point exactly?


And you think you will achieve a different result by asking me the same question 100 times? :) You know what it means when somebody does exactly the same thing over and over again but expects different results? :)

My point is that you are a fekking little hypocrite. You blame Ukrainians for crimes on Poles committed in Zakerzonia or Volhyn region yet you refuse to admit openly that Zakerzonia once belonged to Rus people and Poles acquired it through conquest and colonisation.

FU and your little hypocrite grandpas, too. Ha!


Yes, coz our readers will know what little hypocrite you are. I don`t care about myself and don`t give fekk about such azholing hypocrites like you. It is our readers who are important.

THAT was your point??? Disappointing.

But OK, so let's sum up: some Ukrainians think that a large chunk of eastern Poland should belong to Ukraine because it once belonged to "Rus people" and some evil Polish king conquered it.

Very well. So does that make my "paranoid" theory, of possible passing of those lands under Ukrainian administration in a hypothetical Polish-Ukrainian union, more or less probable? :)

So? A lot more russians think that an independent Poland is a mortal threat and they should nuke Warsaw....

Why are you worried about Ukrainians?

I am not worried about Ukrainians per se but rather about this fishy idea of Polish-Ukrainian union, and about the possible compensation that Ukraine might be offered in such union at Poland's expense, for the lands they are bound to lose in the east.

And people outside of Warsaw go:



They do think we value Warsaw, which is typical since Uncle Stalin gave us the cancer building and they still have the mentality that we care about it or appreciate it.

Valiant effort, Kania.

But it is impossible to fight retardation.


Your attempts at causing discord between Russians and Poles is commendable. Hope the check from the State Department is appropriate.

It's a bizarre idea and smacks of ethnic irredentism.

The Lemko and Boyko people were moved out by force during Akcja Wisła. That was wrong, however it's now 80 years ago and the damage is already done.

It's as daft as saying that Poland has a claim on Lviv because ethnic Poles were once the majority there or that Germany has a claim on Wrocław because it was once theirs.

And yet we keep trying. Not for us, but for the benefit of our readers.

@jon357

Exactly! Down with this silly "union" idea!

Who is going to arrange this compensation? Your beloved Russians??? :):):):


You cleverly omitted the fact that 70% of local population in Western Ukraine owned by Poland in 20th century was Rusins or Ukrainians. Ha!


Of course, Kania`s imperialist Russian friends are coming to the rescue. Why am I not surprised??? hahahaha

Kania, why don`t you join Konfederacja party, the guys who love Russia so much??? :)::)

I'm not paid... it's a personal mission caused by my (now) deep hatred of everything russian, a repulsive death cult of a country (nb. before Feb of 2022 I didn't think much of russia one way or another.... I doubt if I'm the only one turned into a proud russophobe because of your idiotic attempt at recreating a rotted empire and your hope of ethnocide.....

Perhaps our dear allies, who will want to talk Ukraine into giving up their eastern lands, to achieve peace with Russia, and will need some compensation for them, and who have a history of f*cking us over. Of course they would need to persuade our politicians too but can you honestly say that it's impossible?


It was but it isn't anymore, as Jon rightly noticed. Which makes those "Zakerzonia" banners-flying banderists even more retarded than their glorious predecessors were.

You are becoming even more paranoid now.... :):):) This idiocy is really dangerous. You should be isolated. hahahaha


Apply this logic to Volhynia massacres. They were, but aren`t anymore. Simple.

BTW, I was speaking about whole Western Ukraine under Polish rule, not Zakerzonia.

Yes, the West f*cking Poland over - how could this possibly ever happen? Impossible. :)

Maybe that's why they need this damn union? Poland should stay well away from this idea.

With all the emotional effort you have invested into this conflict, you will really look quite silly when acquainting yourself with its end results.

Jon, Maf, CMS, and others can be excused... but you - you will look very foolish.

Romantic, and morally hermetic - your framework will nevertheless collapse - as any bankrupt idea does.

Stop twisting again. Why are you such a twister and manipulator tonight??? :):)

I said paranoid about your remark on the West forcing Poles to accept the transfer of Zakerzonia to Ukraine.