Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government

I think its only a matter of time til the bubble bursts. A false economy being propped up by EU funding. The gov is juggling its finances, patching holes from funding given for one purpose to cover another. The truth is at street level. Where ever I go people are moaning about the current situation, higher prices, frozen wages etc. And not to mention the deficit constantly rising. If no one controls this predicament, then the outcome could be likened to Greece.

I worked in Germany for 2 years before the reunification and wouldn,t have believed the decline had I not visited friends afterwards. What a difference.


They,re arguing like s**t.


On the contrary. Foreign investment has fallen. People as you put it. What people ? Investing in what "big time" ?

BB, you should know that all manner of BS is said when discussing the economy. The Polish economy was a success story in experiencing growth whilst others were going through a recession. Not stable? Oh really? Unlike Russia, Poland doesn't depend on one main product to prop it up.

EU-funds are not automatically used wisely, we learned that the hard way...
When they are used to prop up the consumerism (buying stuff, welfare etc.) instead to invest in infrastructure, industrialization, building of an economony it ends bad (Greece).

But do you really think that is what happens in Poland? And what would Kaczinsky do differently?

If I was to be as optimistic as other posters here, then I would have to have my head up my jacksie. I am not proposing Mr. K specifically, but a tight governance is crucial to steer Poland in the right direction and lets face it, nobody likes reforms, especially when it means tightening your belt. Tusk is too soft and afraid of losing popularity. He is putting his vanity before his country, that,s not my idea of a good leader.

Country comes first. That means the people.

So...you would like me better when I downtalk and ridicule Poland and it's achievements? I can do that too..
A polish joke maybe?

;)


What about that?

web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/ECAEXT/0,,contentMDK:22767787~pagePK:146736~piPK:146830~theSitePK:258599,00.html

Education reforms

monstersandcritics.com/news/business/news/article_1628776.php/Poland-approves-pension-reforms-designed-to-cut-deficit

Pension reforms

bmj.com/content/340/bmj.c2837.extract

Healthcare reforms

....reforms everywhere....

When you put one and one together what do you have left Mr genius ?I'm talking about above quote.


You did it, you made me laugh, you are surly joking, you cannot be that naive.

Well I dont think education reform is relevent.
As for the pensions reform, lets wait and see if it gets the green light.
I don,t trust the facts and figures presented by Poland to the EU, and will only be satisfied when Poland enters the Eurozone and the countrys finance is properly assessed by the European central bank.

Education reform is extremely important...when you plan to achieve industrialization, that is.
Where should the skilled worker, the inventors, builders, developers, do'er come in polish future when the education sucks? They can't work all on farms...


You can also downtalk a country without need...especially when there are no alternatives present.

WTF? You have no clue!Have you?


Not enough kids to keep up with current level of employed teachers - the teachers union supported Tusk -he paying off his voters !

As you say, in the future, I agree.

Who provides the figures ? Capones main accountant was Polish afterall.

BTW, have you noticed Ironside having a go at pawian. Hehe...!

It's all about the future...to put in place the right reforms NOW to make the country work in the future.

8 years back the Schröder government put in place hard fought reforms Germany today profits from. We very probably wouldn't be the "economic powerhouse" that we are today without them.

(Didn't stop him from falling out of favour with the electorate though who begrudged him the said reforms...)

Slogan again. Definately not by the Polish one. You mean foreign corporations ? Prove it, provide facts. Did Poland's share in foreign investments located in Central Europe grew in times of Tusk ?


What the government did to make that happen ? Like I said, It's an achievement of the government as much as nice weather over the summer. Please provide facts If you don't agree with me -> changes made by the government, which improved the economy.


LOL ! "Pension reform" is a huge step backward, one of the worst things they have done, Education reform was done many years ago and health reform's main idea is commercialisation of individual hospitals without changes in the system, which will probably result in public property worth tens of billions being taken over for pennies by various cliques.

One of the biggest achievements of Tusk govenrment is that it eventually scoffed and shredden Mr Tusk's plan to join the Eurozone as fast as possible as declared by Mr Tusk on September 8th of 2008 at Krynica Econimic Forum - (the plan was one bold PR stunt and garnered critisim from broad spectrum of people)

Forget Tusk & Kaczynski and elect Palikot. He stands not only for much faster reforms but also for ideals which could finally unite the Poles.

I think the endless new offices, warehouses and factories going up in Poznan and Wroclaw speak for themselves.


What's new? They've moaned about that for years in Poland. Then again - if you're only talking to PiS voters, no wonder they're complaining. Most people I know are happy with the situation - a lot of them remember the hardships of the early 1990's and realise now that things are definitely on the up.


Stable means that the political parties are stable, the Government looks likely to win re-election - all in all, stable. We've settled into a four party system quite comfortably - really, it's fine.


Well, duh - there's an economic crisis going on, didn't you see that? As for investments - open your eyes!


You do realise that tight governance would probably send quite a lot of people into financial difficulty? KRUS reform alone would send a lot of small farmers into poverty, let alone a serious pension reform to strip the generous pre-1990 allowances from pensioners. Poles don't *want* this - so I'm not sure what you're talking about. It could actually be said that by not cutting things, Tusk is doing exactly what the socialist electorate want.


Education is the building blocks of society. Anyway, most of the education reform was designed around cutting the free "second faculty" more than anything else.

What good is empty property ?


The record once more. Yawn...!


Get your head out of that Poznan sand and all that revolves around your own little empire and see what,s happening in the rest of Poland. ( told you this before in another thread ).


I,d say my Polish is middle of the road. Last I looked, I think I,m standing on Polish soil. Not a very good guesstimator.


Last thing I ever want to be. Wouldn,t lower myself.


You know where you can stick your poetry. Mine to you got deleted by the mods. Pity.


You should know, ...... TEACHER ...!
We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

........ Pink Floyd 1979.

Well, its only logical considering that it is a normal practice in democratic country's that opposition blame governing party and rightly so, they hold the reins of state. Funny ? Get real its pathetic as a matter of fact is that everyting is (at last in main stream media) revolving around Kaczynski - what he does and what he doesn't, what he says and why, the way he farting and why, and that parody of informations is passing as a serious informations.Pathetic!


rather - Oh guys, you crack me up big time:)? Mr Teacher :)))
Stick to your grammar .... :P


Hey watch it mister, their are without master and they suffer, but they are my people and you better take it back, As if a place you came from didn't have an ample population of plain idiots and retards.

So mister hit-man, I kindly ask you to withdraw that thoughtless remark!


What would you say that miss joker?

A crazy guy but he speaks a lot of common sense.

Answering THE HITMAN and unanimously with pawian:

Oh was you ever on the Vistula River?
Blow boys blow!
Black priests make the W.A.S.P. men shiver
Blow me bullyboys blow!

A Yankee ship came down the river
Her masts and yards they shone like silver
What do think she had for cargo
American views that had run the embargo
Blow me bullyboys blow!

So blow me boys and blow forever
Blow boys blow!
Why blow me down the Vistula River
Blow me bullyboys blow!

;-)

Nicely put, so for those like you I retract the remark. ( just trying to make a point to teacher )
My apologies to the good guys.


Very nice ........ Shakespeare ?

No, this from a traditional sea-shanty song called "Congo River" ;-) The original song is a witty description of an American slave-trade ship.

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ggg_uGoMuzM

Polish speakers: Jedna z naszych polskich wersji ma takie słowa: "Skąd wiesz, że statek to jankeski? Zbroczone krwią pokładu deski" ;-)

Polish version:

ehehehhe - Palikot stands for some ideals - the guy - supposedly broke - financed his parliamentary campaign using 'pillars' (don't know a proper term in English) - students and retired people sponsored Palikots campaing presumably - with quite generous donations - naturally Polish "politically independant" prosecutors never found anything suspicious - as far as I know he transfered his capitals to somewhere in the Carribean and now lives off generous grants from some mysterious Luxembourgian financial institution - he doesn' have money simply ;) heh - and well he was not very willing to share his money (before it evaporated to the tropics) with his ex wife (to whose family he actually owes very much - he would never start a business without the money of his father-in-law

Never heard of the guy....what are his political views?

he does not have any views - he's only got political ambitions - (after gaining a great measure of immunity - he knows too much of Tusk's an PO's dirty things - but they know of his )

Interesting...

Closest to the FDP, I think?

The party itself would be closer to the SDP in Germany, though.

You are missing the point. I didn't ask people to describe dynamic of the Polish economy (which isn't bad compared to average in Europe, however there are very serious threats) I asked what Tusk and his government has done to improve things in Poland.

What a mix! ;)

Palikot is yet another lunatic and populist if you ask me.

Seriously, disbelief comes over me when I read your posts. :):):):)


No, it is your problem. Ping-pong, ping - pong. :):):)


Truth, my son.


I try to teach kids like you. :):):)


Believe me, after going through socialist centrally-planned economy for 40 years, Poland DOES have a free market economy today. :):):)


The first that comes to my mind: 3 years ago Russia lifted the embargo on Polish products like meat, fruit and vegetables introduced in 2005 during PiS regime`s rule. Also, Russia started cooperation over Katyn Massacre, e.g., by opening the Soviet archives. Russian President Medviediev visits Katyn Cemetery regularly at anniversaries of the massacre.

But I am losing time because you are going to turn it down as worthless, aren`t you? :):):)


Yes, provide me with respected links where I can read what you said: Poland is heavily criticized by EU for huge deficit and lack of reforms. The ratings are under huge pressure. :):):):)


What do you know about my career? But I won`t tell you because it would make you even more frustrated. :):):)


I already did. Go back to it and read carefully.


By chance, don`t you also think that all education is irrelevant? :):):)


Yes, I can see that. :):):) Any teaching efforts will be lost on you. :):):)

But I will endeavour anyway:


Iron, you certainly need more education! Don`t you know blow away has other meanings, too? E.g., 2. To defeat decisively. Or 1 to make someone feel very surprised, And that was what I had in mind.

Besides, it is not grammar but lexicon. :):):) I mean vocabulary. :):) Words.

If you feel it is too much education for you, tell me and I will ease up a little. :):):)


Mine to you, too. Pity, indeed. :):):)
But you read mine while I didn`t read yours. What was it exactly?


You need to catch up with Polish politics from time to time because you are definitely backward if you don`t know that Palikot`s main idee fixe is his reluctance to the Catholic Church. Most of his recent happenings/interviews focused on fighting the influence of RCC in Poland. Can I advise you to read more current events bulletins? :):):)


Definitely, he`s not the think tank.


I see you have started to learn.

In January you commited this thread: Poland is going bankrupt.

Not bad. Keep up good work.