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How are electric cars doing in Poland?


johnny reb 27 | 4,680
16 Sep 2020 #271
So your car can come to you

All I have to do is whistle for it.
Do you even own a car ?
cms neuf - | 1,755
16 Sep 2020 #272
2 cars, 2 vans and a broken tractor

I guess I could sell them all and get one of these overhyped things
johnny reb 27 | 4,680
16 Sep 2020 #273
My bet is if you did is that you would still not even have half the money one of those over priced things would cost you.
cms neuf - | 1,755
16 Sep 2020 #274
Whatever

Do you know I have read many books over the last few years about how Brexiteers, American right wingers and Trump supporters got tired of liberals looking down on them. What is weird on this forum is how those people are obsessed with money and material wealth and I think that it gives them superior status.

Anyway back to Poland - I have been driving around the West of Poland today - some pretty big towns and so far I saw one hybrid and one electric car. I haven't seen any charging stations though in Konin I saw a sign saying they were putting one there
Cargo pants 2 | 560
16 Sep 2020 #275
2 cars, 2 vans and a broken tractor

Too expensive in Warsaw,ever consider Karta Miejska?lol costs me 98Pln a month,and I dont have to look or pay for parking,gas,insurance etc and can drink alcohol anytime anywhere I want.Public transportation is very convenient in Warsaw/Poland,Unlike some English teachers take use of cars as a status symbol.
cms neuf - | 1,755
16 Sep 2020 #276
I don't live in Warsaw.

When I'm there I just tend to walk most places, taxis in the evening and occasionally a tram.
jon357 63 | 15,208
16 Sep 2020 #277
When I'm there I just tend to walk most places, taxis in the evening

Uber is handy in Warsaw. Unless you live well out of the city there's very little point running a car, not least because parking can be a real hassle in centrum.

About electric cars, Polish car buying is quite conservative (plus there's lots of second hand cars from over the border) however eventually they'll catch up.
Cargo pants 2 | 560
16 Sep 2020 #278
one of those over priced things

Cars are way overpriced in Poland,Tesla Model S costs around 360K Pln plus 23% VAT,while here it costs 74K$ plus almost 7% Sales tax.I would never buy a car in Poland and have always took them from States,costs only 800$ to ship them and they are there in 4/5 weeks,plus the fun of driving with American plates gets you out of the eastern borders quick then waiting for miles long lines.

I haven't seen any charging stations though in Konin I saw a sign saying they were putting one there

Here is the map of super charging stations in Poland
chargemap.com/map
Dont forget you can charge from a regular outlet also with there extension cords.BTW Konin has 15 charging stations.
mafketis 24 | 8,743
16 Sep 2020 #279
Cars are way overpriced in Poland,

Good most of the country doesn't have the infrastructure for dealing with the cars that are already here....
jon357 63 | 15,208
16 Sep 2020 #280
Quite. The fewer the better.

It would be good if it were a legal requirement that anyone who has a car has somewhere off-road to keep it.
Cargo pants 2 | 560
16 Sep 2020 #281
Not very brilliant thinking.Which developed country in the world has that requirement?All the major cities in the world will never have any traffic problems.No one will need Transport consultants then.
jon357 63 | 15,208
16 Sep 2020 #282
Oslo plans to be car-free within a decade. A positive step.
Vlad1234 16 | 716
16 Sep 2020 #283
Will they ride bicycles and horses?
johnny reb 27 | 4,680
16 Sep 2020 #284
Oslo plans to be car-free within a decade. A positive step.

On the contrary.......it means another freedom lost.

Will they ride bicycles and horses?

I live in the country where there is no public transit so I guess without my truck I will be 'forced' to do one of those two Vlad.
jon357 63 | 15,208
16 Sep 2020 #285
Will they ride bicycles and horses?

They'll use excellent public transport.

Gaining freedom from congested roads, crowded pavements, road rage and road accidents.
johnny reb 27 | 4,680
16 Sep 2020 #286
All which we have been conditioned to as a way of a independent and free life.
jon357 63 | 15,208
16 Sep 2020 #287
we have been conditioned to

Sadly.

Fortunately the good people of Oslo are breaking free from that. As part of their independent and free life. Another chunk of central Warsaw is due to be pedestrianised soon; this is seen here as a good thing.
johnny reb 27 | 4,680
16 Sep 2020 #288
Yes, this is a good thing for big cities.
Remember how smog ridden L.A. cleared right up when the virus hit and everyone was quarantined ?
It went from the worst air in the U.S. to the best air in the U.S. as far as big cities went.
Besides, the millenials today never venture far from their parents basements and can't afford a car, car repairs and car insurance payments.
jon357 63 | 15,208
16 Sep 2020 #289
smog

That's a real problem in Warsaw right now.

the millenials today

They're middle-aged already. Generation Z are the coming generation; and they're very different to what came before.
Cargo pants 2 | 560
16 Sep 2020 #290
I live in the country where there is no public transit

we once calculated that a 14 mile distance by us will take over 18 hours with the local NJ Transit bus schedule and changing 3 buses.

Another chunk of central Warsaw is due to be pedestrianised soon; this is seen here as a good thing.

source???
But I do see maybe 10 Super charging stations under Plac of Kultury,and all are with cars waiting.
jon357 63 | 15,208
17 Sep 2020 #291
source???

It's well enough publicised here. The plans look great.

I suggest you follow current affairs in Warsaw rather than expecting people to look for 'sources' for you.
Cargo pants 2 | 560
17 Sep 2020 #292
I suggest you follow current affairs in Warsaw

So I suggest stop spreading lies here.There is plan to verify your claims about:Another chunk of central Warsaw is due to be pedestrianised soon; this is seen here as a good thing

A total BS.
jon357 63 | 15,208
17 Sep 2020 #293
Why not follow current affairs here. Instead of trying to troll.
cms neuf - | 1,755
17 Sep 2020 #294
But people already have freedom from congested roads, road accidents and road rage - because they can walk or cycle if they want.

I can live with congested payments
jon357 63 | 15,208
17 Sep 2020 #295
freedom from congested roads, road accidents and road rage

Sadly all these exist. The pedestrianisation that's happened already in Poland has been a success, and the proposed extension of that in śródmieście will certainly improve quality of life.

I can live with congested payments

People have to. There is a better way to live!
jon357 63 | 15,208
17 Sep 2020 #297
No. The last one started to need repairs a few years ago which coincided with going away for work, so we sold and didn't replace it. There's no need for one in a big city, especially one like Warsaw with good transport/bad traffic and parking problems.

If you're handy for the metro and shops there's not much point. It's usually (especially at peak times) quicker to use the metro here. Plus, on the rare occasions I'm in Śródmieście nowadays, it's usually in the evening for a meal/drink so it would mean a taxi anyway.

A few people I know in Warsaw (and back in the UK) ditched theirs during/after lockdown.
cms neuf - | 1,755
17 Sep 2020 #298
For me kids made a huge difference - before then I was fine with public trams and taxis. But getting to hem to and from school with no car would take a huge chunk out of the day. Doing a family shop without a car would be very difficult too. Then all the doctors, dentists, trips to Babcia etc

Reducing car travel is a good idea with lots of benefits, but much of the debate from the environmental, lobby paints drivers as selfish and heartless, when in fact most of them are just trying to get by and juggle busy lives.
Wincig 2 | 222
17 Sep 2020 #299
@cms neuf
Kids make a huge difference, so does where you live. My wife and I shuttle between two abodes, Paris and a place in the countryside, and all our 3 cars stay at the latter
Vlad1234 16 | 716
17 Sep 2020 #300
A small off-topic:
Do you know when Americans will start to measure everything in km, kg, L and C like all the normal people around the World do???

Mercedes plans to introduce a plug-in hybrid with electric range 60 miles (100 km) in 2020. If true, it is a breakthrough.
greencarreports.com/news/1119355_2020-mercedes-benz-gle-plug-in-hybrid-to-have-60-miles-of-electric-range


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