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The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?


Lenka 5 | 3,534
22 Apr 2024 #2,641
But, since every Polak here goes out of his way to tell us how guns are not necessary, it's only logical for me to ask

Police is at a very high risk of being attacked. They may have to enter dangerous places etc.

Do you know Polish police returns the gun after shift?
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
23 Apr 2024 #2,642
You are missing the point completely Rich....... if the cops have guns, why do we need them?

Maybe because it takes the cops twenty minutes to get there and when they do arrive you are already dead.
Are you really that stupid dillweed ?

Do you know Polish police returns the gun after shift?

Is it true that they are only given one bullet to go with their gun ?
Novichok 4 | 8,259
23 Apr 2024 #2,643
They may have to enter dangerous places etc.

Hey, stupid, there is no such thing as dangerous places. Only people and animals can be dangerous.

Do you know why cops often go to "dangerous places"? They go there because people who were in danger called them. Ususally too late. See JR's post 2642 above...

Memo to stupid Polaks:

If cops have a reason to have guns to pick up your dead body, you had a reason to have a gun before you became a dead body. Duh!

Got it? Or was I too fast?
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
23 Apr 2024 #2,644
@Novi
It's easier to nail jello on the wall, Novi.
Do you see why domestic abuse is so high now in Poland ?
(A mixture of Ignorance & Stubbornness)
The United States is already fighting their European war in Ukraine for them.
If we weren't paying for that war $$$$$$ you know damn well Russia would have tanks on Poland's soil by now.
We will really hear the howling start when Poland gets invaded and the people have no guns to defend themselves from rapist and looters.
They will call their "save all cops" to come save them. lol
These milk soppers need a good kick in the ass to get it.
Novichok 4 | 8,259
23 Apr 2024 #2,645
The US will save our asses attitude permeates throughout Europe and includes their reliance on cops. That's why these bootlicking parasites would rather buy Danish-style happiness instead of weapons.

That is why the Euros don't want to answer this simple question:

Would you pull the trigger to defend your daughter from being raped?
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
23 Apr 2024 #2,647
That's why these bootlicking parasites would rather buy Danish-style happiness instead of weapons.

Slow down Novi, Poland is getting nuke's which will for sure put a bullseye on Poland's back now.
News Week: NATO Ally Poland 'Ready' to Station Nuclear Weapons on Its Territory.
You wanted them, you got them, now what ?
Novichok 4 | 8,259
23 Apr 2024 #2,648
You wanted them, you got them, now what ?

Store them at the intersection of Marszalkowska and Aleje Jerozolimskie - Warsaw's zero point.
@Crnogorac3
Thank you. I will show this at the next Current Events meeting.
jon357 74 | 22,172
24 Apr 2024 #2,649
until there is a real vote.

Why would we need or want a referendum on a non-issue.

Gun crime is low and we like it thsi way.

guns are not necessary

There's no reason for any civillian except for a small subset of farmers to have access to them.

We don't want things like this: metro.co.uk/2024/04/22/mcdonalds-customer-sauce-shooting-florida-20697665/?ico=mosaic_tag
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,650
There's no reason for any civilian...

BS. If cops have a reason to have guns, you have a reason to have a gun. The reason: to defend yourself. Duh!

Now, if choose not to defend yourself, don't get a gun. Simple.

In Sydney, they chose not to defend themselves and they are dead now.

Is every Euro a mindless moron?
Lenka 5 | 3,534
24 Apr 2024 #2,651
choose

And Europe, including Poland, chooses not to have easy access to guns. Deal with it.
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
24 Apr 2024 #2,652
Poland, chooses not to have easy access to guns.

Then don't call on the U.S.A. to come bail your complacent asses out again when you have no way to defend yourselves again.

America has spilled enough of our young boys blood for you woke Europeans.
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,653
No. The ruling class made that choice for you. In Poland, they chose to limit abortions. Western Europe is flooded with migrants because the ruling class so decided.

Don't try to make powerlessness into a virtue. We have a name for this mental disorder. Look up "Stockholm syndrome"

when you have no way to defend yourselves again.

In feudal hellholes, only the King's goons can be armed just in case the subjects may have unauthorized ideas.

That's the only reason why only cops can have guns in Europe. Nobody gives a fvck about safety or they would close their borders a long time ago.
Lenka 5 | 3,534
24 Apr 2024 #2,654
The ruling class made that choice for you.

There was a party wanting relaxing the law... Didn't really get that far. So it's obvious people weren't that bothered.
Lenka 5 | 3,534
24 Apr 2024 #2,656
I sometimes wonder, are you that stupid that you don't understand people have different views and needs to yours or are you just acting to be a troll.
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,657
you don't understand people have different views

Did Russians agree with the communist rulers? Did Poles like theirs from 1945 till 1990? Both countries had elections.
What made you decide that Western ruling class would give up power? Because they are trying to be nice?

Who do you think rules the US? The top 100 or 330,000,000 below? If elections mattered they would be illegal.

Why every damn Polak turns out to be a naive moron?
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
24 Apr 2024 #2,658
Because women think with their emotions and men think with the facts.
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,659
Not only this...Men think forward. Women think now.

Man: What do I do when at 2 am a couple of thugs break into my house?
Woman: Don't worry, hon. We will call 911.

Next day:

Woman: I heard noises. Go check it out.
Man: Call 911.
Lenka 5 | 3,534
24 Apr 2024 #2,660
What made you decide that Western ruling class would give up power?

What give up power?
Unlike in USA on Poland we have many political parties. We even had a freaking ' beer lovers' party.
Quite recently we had a party that was putting in their manifesto relaxing gun laws. Didn't go far. Combined with the fact that all the surveys show little support for such a change every sensible person has to admit it seems Poles simply don't want relaxing gun laws.
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,661
What give up power?

Why did Poland end up with the most restrictive abortion laws? Was there a referendum on this subject?
Lenka 5 | 3,534
24 Apr 2024 #2,662
The protection of life is written into Constitution which was under referendum
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
24 Apr 2024 #2,663
Why do people try to force their whims on other people ?
If you don't want a gun then don't have one but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to have one if I want one.

Please don't tell me how to run my life, how to feel, vote, post, walk, or talk.
My gun is no threat to you unless you intentionally put my life or someone else's life in harms way.
What is so hard to understand about that ?
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,664
What is so hard to understand about that?

In Europe, they are subjects, not citizens. Only the King's goons can be armed to protect the King, not you or me.

f you don't want a gun

This bootlicking way of thinking is beyond perverse...

I choose to be defenseless so you must be defenseless, too.

Euros are not repairable. In some weird way, the war in Ukraine will be good for them.
Lenka 5 | 3,534
24 Apr 2024 #2,665
Poles: We don't want guns in our country.
Foreigners having nothing to do with the country: How dare you tell me I can't have a gun!
Poles: Do what we want but in our country we choose not to have easy access to guns.
Foreigners: My gun is my choice.

Poles: yyy, great, just don't bring it here.

It's funny how some Americans get so worked up by people from far away countries reject their views...
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
24 Apr 2024 #2,666
We don't want guns in our country.

"WE" is not the 100% of the people that you imply, Love.
You try to speak for the whole country of Poland.

we choose not to have easy access to guns.

Then make them inaccessible to the wrong hands.
I put mine away when I have company with little kids. Simple

by people from far away countries reject their views...

You have been so indoctrinated that guns are evil instead of a tool to protect yourself.
Don't worry, in your life time you will see everyone in Poland will be allowed to own and have a gun in their homes for self-defense.

The pendulum always swings the other way.
Ask Australia if they are better off since their government confiscated their guns.
Novichok 4 | 8,259
24 Apr 2024 #2,667
Ask Australia if they are better off since their government confiscated their guns.

I did and each of the dead said a gun would have saved my life.
jon357 74 | 22,172
25 Apr 2024 #2,668
If cops have a reason to have guns, you have a reason to have a gun.

Weird logic.

In Sydney, they chose not to defend themselves and they are dead now.

Your adopted country is awash with guns yet it still has the highest murder rate in the developed world.
johnny reb 49 | 7,210
25 Apr 2024 #2,669
If cops have a reason to have guns, you have a reason to have a gun.

Spot on Novi, hard to argue that one.
Great logic.

Your adopted country is awash with guns

Guns are not a legal right in Australia, jon357 so they are far from being "a washed" any more than Poland is.
You have weird logic with your twisted replies.
Tacitus 2 | 1,379
25 Apr 2024 #2,670
@jon357

Weird logic.

Arguments from gun nuts in a nutshell.


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