The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?

But US murder statistics don`t feel the same in Poland. :):):)

Of course they don't.Rich is not comparing like with like.

Stop sucking to me. It is really disgusting. Keep your dignity. Do you have any?

The Polish troll tries all types of snake like tricks,but I am too smart for him.

If he says something I agree with, then I will agree with him.

That is the difference between a normal poster and a troll.

A troll will never agree with anything you say, even if he does.

Rich is comparing options.

In the US:

1. Pray
2. Beg
3. Call 911
4. Do nothing
5. Kill the POS

The beauty of the US system is that you may have four fully loaded guns on you and still act like a Euro or a Hassidic Jew. See 1 - 4. Your call...

The disgusting thing about the Euro system is that you can't act like an American and blow the mother fvcker's head off. See 5.

I like the US system more.

And then the alarm clock went off. 🤣
These anti gun women are up in arms about kids getting accidently killed with guns yet they are in favor of abortion that intentionally kill 120,000 kids a year in Poland. 😨

With the restrictions as they are now...

Imagine abortion on demand, for no reason, up to the day of delivery...Then all the statistics about depression and medical complications would be out...

If you cite them, you are a women hater...

It's late in Poland...I am really curious what you are going to get back from them for this post...

The subject of abortion has nothing to do with the right to own guns. Discuss it in the relevant thread.

However, if you want to rant about the rights of the unborn child, perhaps you'd both like to comment on the unborn child that never got to see the light of day because a two year old boy shot his mother who was 33 weeks pregnant in yet another accidental shooting. The mother also died. No doubt you'll see this as yet more collateral damage.

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/laura-ilg-shooting-mother-unborn-baby-b2361737.html

He's a senile old man doddering around and muttering crazy things going on in his head....

Bear in mind; it can take an eternity for emergency services to arrive in much of America. It is not merely a luxury having a tool to keep the wolfs at bay until the authorities arrive,

Bear in mind this is a thread about Poland.

Yes and the self-defense reasons for gun ownership that might (I repeat... might) make sense in the US don't apply in Poland.

Similarly the reasons that guns aren't necessary for self-defense in Poland don't apply in the US.

Different countries, different norms...

Oh but it does, you just refuse to connect the dots because it is inconvenient for your woke logic.
Your rational is about Accidental deaths that you are not in favor of by guns yet comparing those deaths to Intentional deaths (120,000 of them by abortion) in Poland every year that you are in favor of.

Your rational that 120,000 intentional baby deaths are acceptable but 35 gun deaths in Poland every year are not.
Please help me understand that.

But a good proportion of Poles oppose both abortion on demand and access to guns - I'm one of them and I reckon about 40 percent share my views.

They are totally separate issues unless you an American right winger

A lot of Americans are incapable or realizing that different countries.... are different and people in different countries have different values. They're heavily invested in the idea that their values aren't shaped by history or culture but are universal ur-values that all humans share.... nonsense but that's what many Americans believe.

I am not debating them, I am debating a Woke British feminist until you showed up to defend her.
She must be off Googling the subject.


No no they are not if they are used as analogies like I just did.


Wrong again, I am a " Proud" American right winger with lots of guns, that have never shot anyone in the last 60 years. 🤠
They just sit there harmlessly in my holster in case I do need them in a life-or-death situation.

Why do cops in Poland carry guns?

Oh maffy, serios;y !
So now you are implying that there are no murderers, rapes, child molesters, home invasions, sexual assaults, robbery assaults, assaults with deadly weapons (other than guns), and other deadly crimes in Europe that take the cops twenty minutes to respond to ? PffffT!


Wrong again, that is what "Most" Americans believe.
It's the Woke's that never admit when they are wrong and just keep doubling down on their b.s. over and over again until they wear you out and we Right Winger's

come to the conclusion that you can't fix stupid.
You don't want a gun then don't have one but don't be telling the next guy he can't have one to defend himself and his family just because Liberal YOU don't want one.

I find it very funny that Americans push so hard against what Poles want as if it was their freaking business what Poles do in their own country


Told you- in case they meet you.

We are just enlightening you to what you have been indoctrinated with during Communism.
This is 2024, Love, and times are changing.
Take your neighbor Finland for example so you know what and why it is coming to Poland's society too.
Finland is embarking on a national defense and public safety initiative by opening 300 new shooting ranges across the country.
This comprehensive project doesn't just aim to enhance military readiness and civilian preparedness but also integrates responsible gun ownership into the fabric of Finnish society.

As global tensions continue to rise, Finland's proactive strategy sets a global standard for empowering citizens while fortifying national security.

No. They don't even know I exist. Cops in Poland don't carry guns to deal with tourists.

Why do cops in Poland carry guns?

Let the record show that Poles here don't know why cops in Poland carry guns.

This means that Poles are stupid or don't know what guns are. That would explain why the Polish ruling class doesn't want guns in the hands of irresponsible morons. One day, one of them will think that a gun is a can opener and somebody might get hurt.

We, on the other hand, know very well what guns are for and why American cops carry them. We also know why we have the Second Amendment.

What I personally don't know is why the US makes tanks and artillery, but that's an entirely different subject. Strangely, Poles are too fvcking stupid to explain why their cops carry guns, but they are world-class experts on why the US needs tanks and artillery. A really weird dichotomy...

Of course we do. Police officers carry guns to prevent criminals from escaping in their cars - a few shots in the tyres and finito. Ha!!

There aren't any dots to connect. Abortion and the right to own guns are two completely different topics. As others have also pointed out.

Can't help noticing that both you and Novichok ignored my post about the 33 week old unborn child and the mother shot dead by her 2 year old son.

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/laura-ilg-shooting-mother-unborn-baby-b2361737.html

Nothing to say about it? Do guns trump the lives of unborn children with you two?

That shooting of the pregnant woman and her unborn child wasn't an isolated case either, there have been others.

I agree Karen, I was simply pointing them out for analogies of which one was an accidental murder and which one was Intentional murder.
I don't want to have to tell you that again.


Really, how many because we already know that a 120,000 children in Poland were murdered last year Intentionally so please post your sources of how many pregnant women in Poland were shot Accidentally.

Man you are on the rag this morning.
No date again last night or what ? 😕

Unborn children are expendable? Guess guns really do trump the lives of the unborn as far as you're concerned.

You're asking me ? 🐍
I should be asking you that since you are pro abortion and think it is a womans right to commit murder. 🐷


How on God's green earth did you ever come up with that one, Karen ? 🦨
Your projections of what I think shows us how I live in your head rent free. 🤣

They are the same.

If a pregnant woman has a right to kill a live human being who is a threat to her lifestyle, I have a right to kill a guy in my house who is a threat to my life.

She needs a doctor. I need a gun.

Simple.

The deflection tactics you're using.


You are deluded.

OK, show me where in this sentence:

If a pregnant woman has a right to kill a live human being who is a threat to her lifestyle, I have a right to kill a guy in my house who is a threat to my life.