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I'm native Polish and I hate my own language.


hhhjkg
11 Oct 2021 #1
Polish is ugly, doesn't sound good on the songs. All I hear is curses and messy shushing.
Novichok 3 | 6,510
11 Oct 2021 #2
You are not the only one. Just try to read Polish threads here. Then the same posters in English and appreciate the difference.
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
11 Oct 2021 #3
Your English will never reach the level of your native language!
Alien 7 | 1,049
11 Oct 2021 #4
@Lyzko
Great words. 😀
Ziemowit 13 | 4,311
11 Oct 2021 #5
Polish is ugly

Amen to that.
jon357 69 | 19,502
11 Oct 2021 #6
Polish is ugly

It has its beauty.

doesn't sound good on the songs

That bit's true. It's great for poetry though.

All I hear is curses

You need new friends.
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
11 Oct 2021 #7
...and ohhh so, so true, Alien! Experience tells. -:)
Novichok 3 | 6,510
11 Oct 2021 #8
Your English will never reach the level of your native language!

If "your" means mine, you don't know the level of my native language.
A tool does not need to be perfect - just good enough. Mine is good enough.
OP hhhjkg
11 Oct 2021 #9
Polish is not the most sonorous language. We don't have many vowels, diphthongs, everything sounds boring and monotonous, at times, harsh etc. Never could sing any rock song, particularly progressive rock song in Polish. I'd say, it's a worst language ever on par with German. Hell, even German is better...
jon357 69 | 19,502
11 Oct 2021 #10
particularly progressive rock song in Polish

Why would you want to sing prog rock in any language?
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
11 Oct 2021 #11
hhhjkg & others,
You haven't then heard the "Warszawianka" sung. If you had, you wouldn't ignorantly bad mouth Polish. I've heard Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump over many years, yet I don't speak ill of the American English language, do I?

Are all German speakers, singers, notable actors etc. speaking as Hitler spoke, for example?
Your premise is silly!
Novichok 3 | 6,510
11 Oct 2021 #12
ignorantly bad mouth Polish.

What kind of crap is that "ignorantly"? People "ignorantly" bad-mouth things they don't know. We know Polish so cut it out with that "ignorantly" - a clever way to imply that you are not "ignorant".
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
11 Oct 2021 #13
You're all only doing it for effect anyway and so who cares?
Novichok 3 | 6,510
11 Oct 2021 #14
Please, don't ever try to teach me English.
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
11 Oct 2021 #15
It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it!
Novichok 3 | 6,510
11 Oct 2021 #16
Certainly not a person who writes:

You're all only doing it for effect anyway and so who cares?

Back to "ignorantly". Who is "ignorant" of Polish here?
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
12 Oct 2021 #17
Rich/Greg, your ethnocentric comments indicate whom among us is ignorant of Polish.
Quit testing our patience!
Novichok 3 | 6,510
12 Oct 2021 #18
indicate whom among us is ignorant of Polish.

You are getting worse by the minute, professor. "Whom"? Are you serious or just testing me? No, professor, it's "who among us is...", not "whom".

Do you know why? It's so because the answer is he, not him. For example: He among us is the tallest.

Getting too professorial with English is a very bad habit that leads to bad places.
jon357 69 | 19,502
12 Oct 2021 #19
Quit testing our patience!

If it was anyone more "neurotypical", I'd say it was simply a matter of someone who still believes (as many Poles do) that grammar is prescriptive rather than descriptive. In this case though, it's just plain mithering from a wazzock.

There's a lovely AmEng word that fits here: "ornery".
Novichok 3 | 6,510
12 Oct 2021 #20
"ornery".

That goes with a lovely American proverb: Don't fu*ck with me and you shall be left alone.

In this case: don't tell me that my English is "poor" and then write "whom".
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
12 Oct 2021 #21
I know another one, not so nice-:) And "whom" IS correct in this instance.
Novichok 3 | 6,510
12 Oct 2021 #22
No, it's not because the only acceptable answer is "he", not "him".
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
12 Oct 2021 #23
Wrong again! Direct object.
jon357 69 | 19,502
12 Oct 2021 #24
I tend to use it with prepositions only. Works well for me.
Novichok 3 | 6,510
12 Oct 2021 #25
whom among us is ignorant of Polish.

Sure...Whom ... is. Right, professor. Him is ignorant. Him got it.
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
12 Oct 2021 #26
Evading the issue..again. Indicate whoM...
Novichok 3 | 6,510
12 Oct 2021 #27
Said the master of evasion, including this very second.
So which one is it: He is ignorant or Him is ignorant?
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
12 Oct 2021 #28
You missed "indicate"!
Novichok 3 | 6,510
12 Oct 2021 #29
I missed nothing.
Which sentence is correct? He is ignorant. Or: Him is ignorant.
Lyzko 33 | 7,988
12 Oct 2021 #30
..indicate who (or whoM) among us ..


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