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Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn


Lyzko  41 | 9550
26 Apr 2024   #181
Correct, Milo! English has become the global language of miscommunication.
Examples?? I wouldn't know where to start.
Alien  22 | 5468
26 Apr 2024   #182
? I wouldn't know where to start

Start where it's easiest.
Lyzko  41 | 9550
27 Apr 2024   #183
A random sign in a Gothenburg hotel dining room (in English, not even in the native language of the country!):

PLEASE DON'T HAVE CHILDREN AT THE BAR

Indeed, perhaps a hospital would be a more suitable venue.

Directions at an outdoor rest stop in Germany's Black Forest.

BATHROOMS FOR EITHER MALE OR FEMALE OR BOTH SEXES!

Last time I looked, I had only one:-) If the signage person had meant "UNISEX TOILETS", when
in the name of Creation didn't they bloody say so?!!

OUR LIFT MAKES YOU RIGHT NOW UNBEARABLE!

Perhaps vaguely comprehensible, but geez, why not get right the first time?

Need I go on? And the kicker is that those in these different countries don't even
see the ridiculousness of it.
Novichok  4 | 7669
27 Apr 2024   #184
The most ridiculous restroom sign: All Genders
Alien  22 | 5468
27 Apr 2024   #185
All Genders

So two?
jon357  72 | 22791
28 Apr 2024   #186
Two sexes, many genders. Some societies have had third, fourth and more genders for millennia
Lyzko  41 | 9550
28 Apr 2024   #187
Well now, with LGBTQ and transgenders, perhaps not!
lol
Novichok  4 | 7669
28 Apr 2024   #188
many genders.

Hey, stupid, there are only two genders - male and female. Or man and woman if adults.

Proof: In the history of trans idiocy, there was never a case of some moron asking doctors to make the freak any gender other than either a man or a woman. Duh!

No freak ever asked for gender # 3 or 17.

I am really getting too good at handling idiots...
mafketis  38 | 10877
28 Apr 2024   #189
two genders - male and female

Those are sexes, biological and immutable.

Technically there are no 'genders' since it is about stereotypes regarding the two genders....
Novichok  4 | 7669
28 Apr 2024   #190
You are right.

In the past, gender and sex were interchangeable. Then came the freak parade...to confuse the fvck out of the rest of us and deny the existence of immutable body characteristics such as reproductive abilities.

In the process, they claimed that objective truth doesn't exist. Only what one feels.

Strangely, the concept of self-identification is limited only to "gender". So I guess I can't self-id as an 18-year-old black lesbian...Maybe in my next life...
jon357  72 | 22791
28 Apr 2024   #191
perhaps not!

I'm not sure why you say that. Some societies have had this for a li g time and don't get stressed about it.

sexes, biological and immutable.

More "currently unchangeable" for Homo Sapiens though as science develops that is unlikely always to be the case.

And yes, for certain other species of mammal sex can and does change.

Gender is a social construct and varies hugely between societies. Our Neanderthal ancestors, BTW, appear to have had few or no differences between gender roles.
elizabethwilliam  - | 4
29 Apr 2024   #192
Polish can be tough to learn because of its tricky grammar and pronunciation. With seven cases and different genders for words, it can feel overwhelming. But many find its beauty and depth worth the effort. To get good, practice and immersion are key. Your interest and motivation matter a lot too!
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #193
@elizabethwilliam
Are you an AI?
Alien  22 | 5468
29 Apr 2024   #194
an AI?

No, she's a beautiful woman.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #195
Are you an AI?

Certainly reads like one...recently on a zoom meeting the issue of students using AI came up and I pointed out that in English AI has very clear 'voice' and it doesn't take long to recognize it, surely that's the case with Polish too....

certain other species of mammal sex can and does change

Which?

Some fish and amphibians do, but have not heard of a mammal that produces sperm starting to produce eggs instead....

"currently unchangeable"
Gender is a social construct and varies hugely between societies.

Yes, maybe at some point in the future it will be changeable but that is not now.

And yes, gender stereotypes differ a lot between cultures, though again there seem to be limits.... Is there any culture where young women 19-26 are charged with the physical defense of the group and are the first to be sent off to battle? Is there any society where young men of the same age are expected to be the primary caregivers of children?

The default model of original humanity (once a group gets big enough) seems to have a lot more sex-segregation than modern industrial societies... men hang out by themselves and women and children hang out together most of the time.
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #196
but have not heard of a mammal that produces sperm

I was surprised. A type of rabbit as I recall.

Is there any culture where young women 19-26 are charged with the physical defense of the group

Israel among others.

Is there any society where young men of the same age are expected to be the primary caregivers of children?

There certainly should be.

And of course we're moving away from traditional binary gender roles.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #197
Israel among others.

So Israeli men of the same age stay home while they send away the young women to fight?
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #198
men of the same age stay home

Who said that? Although some do.

The women certainly serve in the army.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #199
Who said that

that was my question...

women 19-26 are charged with the physical defense of the group and are the first to be sent off to battle?

is there a society that sends young women into battle first? Not Israel.... where women are in fact excluded from frontline combat roles.

A type of rabbit as I recall.

Nope.

agencialocutores.com/can-rabbits-change-gender-sex/
Novichok  4 | 7669
29 Apr 2024   #200
Gender is a social construct and varies hugely between societies.

No. Pull your pants down. You are what you see. If you lose your junk in a car accident, you still are not a woman.

Also, an intersex person is not another gender. It's one on the other and cannot fvck itself to get pregnant.

I have an idea...Why don't we make gender = DNA? Now we have an infinite number of genders...

What humanity really needs is the ability to detect morons before they hatch so we can abort them...
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #201
is there a society that sends young women into battle

Should there be? Shouldn't there be? That doesn't relate either way to the changing views about genders within society.

Some societies cut clitorises off, some eat human flesh. Do we need to be restricted by precedent?

Also, an intersex person is not another gender

That's up to them not you.

Gender is a social construct. Anyway, this thread is about the Polish language, not your obsessions.

Pull your pants down

Your daughter does that for a living.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #202
Should there be?

No. Young women are inherently more valuable to a society than young men. Young men are disposable as the saying goes while young women are perishable (as their fertility diminishes).

changing views about genders within society.

It might have something to do with crashing fertility.... humans are a cishet normative species (because tha'ts how we reproduce) of course there is room for sexual minorities to thrive but "non-binary" nonsense doesn't scale up (it's not feasible on a large scale).
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #203
No. Young women are inherently more valuable

Let them decide. We fortunately have far fewer wars now and women (together with other genders) are no longer the excluded from the military.

it's not feasible on a large scale

Gender and sexuality have no biological bearing on fertility whatsoever.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #204
Gender and sexuality have no biological bearing on fertility whatsoever.

Weird idea..... fertility happens when sperm (produced by a man) meets egg (produced by a woman). At present there is no other way.

Two people who produced the same type of gamete will not reproduce.

Cishet normative.... that's what people are. Large scale deviation from that is a quick road to catastrophic population collapse.
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #205
fertility

None of that depends on gender or sexuality though, does it...
Novichok  4 | 7669
29 Apr 2024   #206
That's up to them not you.

Truth is not personal or negotiable. It's not up to them, you idiot.
If it was up to them, and objective truth didn't exist, we would all die.

.
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #207
we would all die.

We all do.

The world's population is however skyrocketing so you don't need to worry your pretty little head about fertility though.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #208
None of that depends on gender or sexuality though, does it...

gender doesn't really exist... sex exists and it takes one male and one female for humans to reproduce.... so it does depend on sex while those attracted to their own sex (a normal enough occurence) are not fertile on their own....
jon357  72 | 22791
29 Apr 2024   #209
gender doesn't really exist

It's a social construct. And certainly exists. If you feel otherwise, put a dress on and go round Biedronka. People will stare.

so it does depend on sex

Ask Louise Brown that.

And don't worry; simply because gender roles in developed societies are changing, people will continue to play hide the sausage.
mafketis  38 | 10877
29 Apr 2024   #210
The world's population is however skyrocketing

Africa has apparently peaked and total fertility is starting to fall (though demographic momentum means the population will increase for a while)

China's population peaked around 10 years ago

Not sure about India...


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