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Posts by jonni  

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Last Post: 9 Mar 2011
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jonni   
7 Mar 2011
Life / Want to watch BBC iplayer in Poland? [59]

Expat shield just about works but isn't great. Apparently there's going to be a non-geoblocked version of Iplayer sometime soon.
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]

So you've been to the " Tortilla factory" as well.

Only when it would have been impolite not to. Good food though. To be fair, there are a few very nice expats, but there are also some tawdry gits.

A kind of mix of arrogance and desperation, sitting with overpriced beer; their only pleasure being misplaced schadenfreude and moaning about all the things they don't like in Poland.

I just deleted a long paragraph - too much of a rant, but the summary is that some of those guys (always guys) boast about what a great success they are, despite sleeping on people's sofas and not having two pennies to rub together, and look down on certain Poles because they don't speak English to them or lionise them just because they're foreign, even though the real reason is that they're a twat.
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
Life / Are there G U M Clinics in Poland?? [9]

A dermatologist or urologist can treat male VD, or a gynaecologist if you're female. There are English speaking ones at the centum LIM, and if you ask for a venereology consultation they'll book you an appointment with the right person.

Not free, but then again, does the clap clinic in your country offer free appointments in Polish? If you want free, use a phrasebook.

Or the free translation service here. Alternatively just whip it out and let the doc decide.
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

That's true. There are many more which are worth saving, but aren't being looked after. In a generation they'll be gone.
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

o some extend that is true, I suppose smaller towns, could have been build in wood!

Very much so. And unlike any renaissance survivors which are heavily protected and often rebuilt, a lot of the old wooden houses are neglected, especially in Mazowsze. I'd like to see them heavily protected - they are characteristic of Poland, beautiful, and under threat from people wanting shiny new bungalows.
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]

.the naive always lower their guard when they meet someone from "home",personaly I raise mine....

Very wise. Of the British I know in Warsaw, a couple are great guys, most I wouldn't **** on if they were on fire. Something changes emigrants, and not always for the best.
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

Some palaces, churches and few building - the rest is a silence, I'm afraid - destroyed and crumbled into a misty fairy land stories !

Hmm. I'd like to know more about that... One issue is that Poland has dry weather and hardwood forests, so it has always been viable to build in wood. England has wet weather and softwood forests so it was always a good idea to build with brick or stone, which can't be burnt by an invader and never rots.

Would do it?

No! I can't stand tattoos!
jonni   
7 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

gee, 18th and 19th century !

The renaissance! Somewhat earlier.

old towns in biggest town

What about the rest?

Not to forget Zamosc

I mentioned it in my first post, and twice since. Do you want me to tattoo a picture of it on my arse?

he Renaissance huge influence on them (good example Poznan).

That's exactly my point, and I'm pleased you agree. That troll David18 however seems determined to prove that all the great events of the renaissance (largely Italian) were done in Poland.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

environment surviving to this day had been build in the late XVIII and XIX centuries.

Not where I am now.

During this time Poland had been colonised and at the same time England had expanded its colonial empire,

During the renaissance?

15th century wealth has nothing to do with the present times.

Check the thread title.

Ah! Back then wealth was distributed more evenly in Poland

Yet only the castles, churches and a few isolated buildings survive.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
Food / Longest pizza record attempt in Poland [21]

Often grim, but there's a really nice place (cheap as chips) next to the railway station in Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki. One of the best I know is a fixed price place, one type of pizza, only barszcz to drink, 10zl all in, in the old town in ToruĊ„.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]

Was he able to get it refunded? I would imagine whoever cashed it didn't have id.

He had to get a crime number and it's still being processed by the revenue. It looks like the cheque was cashed at some dodgy cheque cashing place.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
Law / Germany and Austria to fully open their labor market to Poles in 2011. Economic growth? [49]

Exactly, " not fair ". eg. British welders were earning 15 pounds an hour until migrants turned up and started working for 7 pounds.

Welders have been saying that for years. Huge wages until the early 80s. Then huge wages until the 90s, then huge wages until the Poles turned up. The truth may be more prosaic.

this is class warfare that is going on around the world, war against middle class,

Yes, but if anything against the working class; people like welders.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]

Something happened to a Polish friend in London. He'd overpaid his tax by quite a lot and was sent a cheque for a refund. The cheque was stolen and cashed by someone (nationality unknown) who's operating a benefits scam from the house he rents a room in. Every week all sorts of mail from the Benefits Agency arrives, addressed to people he's never heard of, and someone always collects it.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [148]

"buy the foreigner a present day"

A bloody good idea. If you're teaching, don't forget to remind them about Teachers' Day...

Womens' Day has a strong political point about equality and human rights. It may have turned into just giving flowers to women who now get equal pay etc, but still they have more often than not to do a day's work and then go home to do the full housewife thing.

So flowers are nice, really, and forgetting to buy them would be noticed. It also reminds people of Womens' Day, and the reasons for having it as well as keeping it alive round the world, especially in countries where it is very much needed.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]

From today's BBC news:

Polish criminal gangs are defrauding the benefits system and conning banks by luring poverty-stricken Poles to Britain with false promises of work and then stealing their identities.

"I just grabbed my child and never went back.

"I left everything in the flat - a buggy, my child's cot and all of our clothes - everything."

Anna - not her real name - is a single mum in her late twenties, from Poland. She anxiously recalls how she fled a criminal gang in London who were using her identity to cheat the benefits system and run up large debts in her name.

Rest of article bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12638060
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

No, the monetary system is what you can see around europe nowadays.

Go for a walk round Florence, Sienna, Venice and say that.

Italy i could agree on. But the UK was a small kingdom in the 14-17'th century.

One of the richest places in the world from the sixteenth century, and more surviving from that period than was ever built east of the Oder.

Not really ;) Plenty of Polish citys had a large industry, citys such as Lodz, Cracow, Lublin etc etc.

Lodz didn't exist during the renaissance, and neither Krakow nor Lublin had any significant industry at that time, nor did they until much, much later. And even then, its origins were elsewhere.

Read up boyo ;)

I prefer original sources to the (rather short and straw clutching) wikipedia page on the renaissance in Poland.
You didn't answer my question:

What on earth has the Eighteenth Century got to do with the renaissance?????

It seems you are very confused about what happened when and where in Europe's history.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [374]

and how exactly is Tusk a dictator?

He isn't. He was elected in a free and fair election when the voters of Poland ejected the PiS coalition, he cannot legislate without parliamentary approval, he has a legal opposition (and a particularly aggressive and vocal one at that), he cannot pass a law without Presidential approval (and has worked under two very different presidents) and a fixed term of office with a round of multi-party elections if he wishes to extend his mandate.

Not a dictator at all.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

It has been estimated that Michael Radziwill's 5,000,000 zloties was equal to 139,000 pounds sterling. This would make the income of even the richest British aristocrats (Bedfords, Devonshires etc) pale in comparison. In 1767

Pale in false comparison, more like. Since in 'western' Europe income and assets were distributed rather more evenly. The built enviromnemt surviving to this day demonstrates that. Poland in that period had a tiny fraction of the cultural achievements of, say, Italy or the UK.

Unholy alliance used when they so called "freed" the poor serfs from the bad boys called the Szlachta, and it still lives on today

I assume you mean the Holy Alliance. Serfdom, by the way was pretty much universal at the time of the renaissance, so it's a bit of a mystery why you've mentioned it. Odd that you mention the Devonshires who emerged as players centuries after the renaissance had finished (and serfdom had been abolished in England).

The diffrence in the first half of the 18'th century were that the poles slaved in the Agricultur sector while the lets say british folks slaved in the industrial sector.

What on earth has the Eighteenth Century got to do with the renaissance?????

But in the end of the 18'th century the poles swifted towards Industri just like the rest of europe.

Actually they didn't. They had a very few sporadic and tentative steps towards it, which weren't a notable success. You quote the most general and accessible of Zamoyski's works - try reading a bit more by him - he covers the matter quite well and in more depth elsewhere.

Indeed it was but still the poles had plenty of projects in the P-L Commonwealth that had its share in the renaissance.
[quote=David_18]Indeed it was but still the poles had plenty of projects in the P-L Commonwealth that had its share in the renaissance.

As I said in my first Post, Poland wasn't isolated from the world. The word 'plenty' is misleading however.

Indeed Poland didn't invent the renaissance. But they did build plenty of extraordinary examples and contributed alot to the renaissance.

They didn't particularly. If anything they contributed less than one might expect given their position and resources. And certainly a lot less, given the vast wealth you ascribe to them.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

You claim that the economic powerhouse was in Italy, but you're wrong. The Polish magnates were richer then some kings in europe and hired the best artist you could find at that time to their courts.

Italy was the engine and driving force of the renaissance - the built environment and almost all of the art was and still is, in Italy.

Yet few people outside the country had any idea that it had ever been one in the past.

One point (among many) on which Zamojski is very wrong.

You know, some things can be attributed to Poland. The renaissance is not one of them.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

jonni:
But the intellectual and economic powerhouse was well to the south.

Do you know anything about the polish magnates?

Plenty. Read my post.

by Austria, Prussia and Russia when they sealed Polands faith,

Rather, it sealed its own. In very large part by the behaviour of the people you call 'magnates'.

now people are starting to find out the truth about Poland

Its history has never been a secret.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

Almost every city in Poland got a Italian Renaissance touch.

A touch. Not a renaissance. Touches of it spread everywhere. Zamosc is an example. But the intellectual and economic powerhouse was well to the south.
jonni   
6 Mar 2011
History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

The renaissance in Italy was born of a set of circumstances, economic, political, cultural, climactic and geographic that were unique to Italy. There was certainly a Polish university at the time, projects like the rynek and palace at Zamosc etc, as well as travellers to and from Poland, but the conditions which allowed the renaissance to flourish in Italy weren't there.