Language / POLISH 18 - 30 years old know MUCH BETTER ENGLISH language than their own native language! [102]


NO NO NO NO You cannot MAKE me go back!!!!!!!! *runs away crying and throwing ashes in hair*

Least that was the last time I was at a public school til my teens! Thank Bob my parents had money back then at least.

To be fair on how we Americans are speaking English different from our originating speakers in so many ways (regional dialects) are almost directly related to type of immigrants prevalent in the area during the major settling of it. And phonetics from the standpoint of each type of immigrant is different. Not to mention after the well to do grabbed futures of position and land for lessor sons, the next few waves of Anglos were not exactly educated cream of the crop. And immigration was generally an approved and welcome concept until well into the early 70s (haters were gonna hate the immigrant ethnic of the season.

Spelling bees usually showcase the ability to know and use complex and rare latin/greek based or non-english words..like Laodicean (here the southern "lackadaisial" comes from...it's biblical btw)..or haecceity ...or Bewusstseinslage (used in written portion of a test a few years back).

Hee heh heh... I wait for spelling bees to incorporate words coming common now from places like Netherlands, Poland, Turkey (won't count languages that use different type lettering Cyrillic or Arabic..that will be the Spelling Bee Xgames of future >_< )

Life / What are the things which cause culture shock in Poland? [164]


LAWLZ

Heh! though I don't do so often; my honey was rather shocked just this past week when I brought home a "large" drink not even super sized yet.

"That is ALL soda..? you're not going to drink that?"

(That would be, I think, a 900+ ml beverage incl ice displacement)

I could see that as something I'd boggle over.... even for just water I like to have a larger cup

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]

My bestest friend (now fiance) told me if/when I visit; NOT to exclaim my foodie love for ice cream using Polish same way, specially in tone.

I guess there is a metaphor of an action best kept between us? : p unless I charge by the minute? XD

edit .. maybe I can use alternate words to gush over my love for forbidden dairy..lol

Food / "Poland - it's the new Provence of food" [56]


_YES!!!_
Oh boy...
Thank You! Mystery Foodie! that is one of the ways I've had it prepared. Though we usually had the blander version for all relations to accept ( a lot of people don't like mushrooms because some old nasty canned thing they ate and refuse to try other types of mushroom. : [ mmmm chantrelles*drools* )

Food / "Poland - it's the new Provence of food" [56]

Hmm... interesting post I may flip through that book next time I'm at a large bookseller.

I can't say I like French food in general but countryside cooking was hearty from what I remember while traveling through. Only food I like in the cities was bread and dessert.

Between my grandparents ethnic cooking and dishes picked up during immigration; then my Russian mum-in-law, I probably already cook many things that could be made "Polish" with slight adjustment.

I make Blintzes..which I guess are 'omlettes" for Poles, I make potatoe pancakes and dumplings.. several other dishes I make have Polish counterparts...even menudo.

I wonder if Poland has an equivalent for Ou lauden? I think that is german dish we swiped. Beef filet rolled around a strong pickle and sweet onion braised, ladled with light gravy and served with cabbage...Mmmmmm

Food / Polish Eating Habits [87]


Heh I can never tire of saying how much I like to eat picked items, sausages and heavy breads. All posts about food sound heavenly. I think if i was assimilated, you would be able to tell me as non-Polish by the portions and amount of fish I eat as well. Seems not as big an item with general Polish as far as I can tell here.

Searched for a thread to Necro as preferred; rather than start anew:

Do other Americans (and our english speaking counterparts in UK & Oz) Feel like a Hun eating next to your EU friend/mate even if you are not overweight?

I wonder how much more budget I'd need to eat the way I do? <_<
I will actually faint in the midday if my portions fall below 1800 ca for the day ( I tried to be on that atkins diet to help my BF at the time stick to his diet. OMG! Mis-stake!)

Still.....when my fiance' and I eat meals together via video.. He brings a plate that barely has enough food to keep my 7 yr old alive. With exception of Pizza or Potato chips(crisps). But though the slice is large, he eats only one. I also notice whatever chicken their KFC uses looks like game hens compared to what I bring home from KFC.

I will admit that most his diet choices are atypical because of serious allergies, he doenst eat the full meal with family most days. At first, when we were still only good buds; I was embarrassed and would consume a good half my meal as I walked the hallway to return to call. I eat like a winter wolf if I don't force myself to relax.

I notice he eats 2 more times in the day and they break up their meals into something like courses. Eating each item as ready rather than awiting for all to be put on plate at once. One would say he 'eats like a bird'

In reality it is I, who eats like a bird.. a REAL bird, and a good thing I have metabolism like a bird or i'd weigh more than my car! German food is like mana to me and from what I can see so shall Polish food be. I don't diet though I cut soda pop out and beer (I miss my good heavy ales) for all but special occasions since those are the only things that seem to affect my size in all but tiny amounts.

But he is boggled the first time he saw me bring a large (not supersize) drink home. And how large I say restaurant meat portions are or sandwiches.


LAWLZ..many meals incl in restaurants serve both potatoes and bread at same meal..
there is even dish that ladles chipped beef (also called affectionately **** On a Shingle. SOS) cooked in gravy over mashed potatoes and/or bread . Southerners especially will swab their rolls or cornbread in their gravy and mashed potatoes. ^_^ AS they enjoy their battered fried fish/meat, and battered fried bread (hushpuppies), okra, zuchinni and creamed green/corn/string beans. You will find SOS even in California in older established Diners. All across SW, South and as far up as West Virginny. It also was an Army favorite at chow.

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]


Im ethnic mix that had old folks still holding tight to their home ways and languages. Im mostly Czech and Cherokee with smatter of 3 more and more Czech.

Hmmmm....
Honestly Vlad; I rarely heard it -if- at all..
I would say depends on what words. But I find Russian was more clipped, less tonal. Lower and colder than the spoken Bohemian of my elders I remember.

I didnt find it musical when they spoke fully; but Baba's english was musical with the accent.
Supposedly my Exs grandfather Boris Zorin was Ukranian but there was some sneering that he was possibly adopted. He did speak slightly different and seemingly "warmer" than the women and other grandfather ;but also refused to speak anything but English in front of the rest of us on most days. But I had very few occasions to hear him. He was very tall and almost albino pale. And handsome (though unfortunate it wasn't passed down in full measures to his kids or grandkids LOL)

Boris kinda sorta sounded like the Weis's on my Dad's side but my memory is fuzzy on them , since most were deceased by the time I was 8 (my dad himself as youngest was born 1917) and I was in my 20s when I first met Mr. Zorin.

But I think all their accents could be skewed from living in enclaves. ie. My In-laws in Tietsin China for a generation and becoming fluent in Mandarin and 2 other dialects.

I can't recall he sounded at all like my maternal gr-grandparents who had much stronger accents in their English and spoke to each other in non english more often. But they also may have skewed accent was after major move per generation before they came to the US from Brasil enclave and grandma Delfina was not ethnic slav.

I kinda wonder too if attitude while expat make difference on how one speaks languages from "old country". In laws Teplaouff-Sergev were "Someday we'll go back and reclaim" while Boris was all "4ell no why would I wanna do that?

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

I prefer the sound of Polish to Russian or my own family's Bohemian Czech.
Though so far I hear a big difference on how my cousin Marya in CR says words compared to my grandparents.
Or my dearest dear of friends who came from Slovakia when she speaks to her mother on phone.

How a maid imported to my X inlaw spoke Rusian compared to the family speaking it was waaaay different.

Birds..hmm... : )
And there is a very discernible difference between my boyfriend's Polish and my rarely connected language buddy (soft,palatized, chirpy with high intonations)
compared to my weekly language buddy or the man in the chocolate shop I ordered the telegram from (sounded almost like total weird drunk Bohemian, more clipped though still has different raised intonations).

Can it be because of the region? the rougher speakers were in Ponzan and Wroclaw. Ana and my Honey are both from Bialystok area.

And yes in USA... least the largest portion of people in my circles would automatically assume hard slavic accent as Russian, softer ones as German/Austrian (most not even sure what other countries there are or ever were in that region <_<. And these were in college). But I haven't lived (short stay at Great Lakes Naval Station) nor know very few people north of the 40degree mark where large Polish communities are known to exist. May be different up there?

Life / Polish sentimental ballads [28]

Ahh.. I like the sound of that last one Paiwan, and I really like the post with 'Anna Szałapak', I truly enjoy tangoes. and of course on different music thread I mentioned my fangurl squeals for the more modern balladeers like Andrzej Piaseczny (heh,,I even remembr to spell his name by remembering Sexy-secksni).

Accordians are smexy for Polish? I will have to brush up!! I here I have been wooing him with guitar ballads!

Law / Certificate of no impediment - Single Status - UK Getting Married in Poland [24]

Something like it is required for USCIS as well.. both parties have to provide documentation they are free to marry to use fiance' Visa.
Simply getting married if both people are present is a trip to Vegas and some legal ID documents. ^_^ Though you still have to make sure you get all required paperwork done for your spouse to avoid deportation (how awkward would THAT be).

Though in my case, my home parish already did the legwork and provided me ability to marry in church.

I think that this came up a few months ago ans that trhead has the info you need,, it was maybe October? In Marriage and Relationship section. Pretty sure.

Language / Does Polish have a plural of "You"? [51]


EXACTLY
And where did you get that "95%" stat Citizen? I am curious. I don't hear/see it everyday, but it is not that uncommon..even here in Podunk NC where I am staying this year.

I personally don't use it as often since I have lived in SW most of my life and therefore use "Y'all"

Did you live in a northern state?maybe they don't use it up Northeast? I never lived very long North of VA/KY. Cali uses "you guys" more often as does WA. But you can still hear or see it.

And after all...... "One Does Not Simply Walk into Mordor" ~ Boromir

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Bloc

to add to the fray..
In school... admittedly mostly private tutor during travel or perochial.. I was never taught that Poland was "Eastern Europe.." and my family was suspicious of "Commies" but that nearly always translated to "=Russians" >_<

I was taught it was an "East Bloc" country which a BIIIG portion of Germany was part of.

The laziness of my children's schools and their generation of educators seem to have arbitraily assigned anything east of the line in 'western' Germany separating it as Eastern Europe.

My curiosity what is the center of Western Europe supposed to be geographically?

AS for why some feel the need to correct what they are being called. Why so adamant on siliencing their opinion about their OWN selves?

I don't think it's Rocket Science. Just because the betrayers of the "eastern European" countries trust assigned them off with a "not one of us" label to feel better about Warsaw pact..doesn't mean the indigenous peoples agreed wholeheartedly with being aportioned.

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

ismellnonsense
Ah, LOL, so you also are in the court of ...impossible for a Basque person to live ANYWHERE else but the region between Spain and France?

My fathers main family came thru Germany and Brasil and are Bohemian ethnically. Weiss
Weiss married a Cherokee. His daughter married a Scot/German.
Her son married into a family that was known Borquez which a gerneration earlier was Baquez and Boggnes depending which son. which in Brasil Sao Paulo region was Bagnes and Baginski- which in Portugal also was Bagnes and Baginski. Who had come from Prague and before that Boheme. His wife Delphina DaSilva was Basque. Their children ...all 16... spoke Castillian, Portuguese and Euskara as well as Boheme. Czech if you prefer..they did not prefer so.

I am born as an American, I identify with the culture and language that was most around my household. Boheme, Portuguese and Cherokee. I am in contact with cousins of 4th and 5th degree that live abroad because the families never broke away totally.

And no matter how much you try to **** in my cornflakes. You can't change where I came from. and I still think the French people I have met were total arses, specially about "correcting". I still love german food.

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]


^_^ ..oooh so true!
I am US Citizen but english was not even my second language...I didn't get a cool euro accent but I do speak it oddly..plus I have Southern drawl.

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]


WoW! Oh..L-O-L!
I'm sorry... my family and the towns they call home didnt subscribe to Wikipedia and live ONLY off the Bay of Biscay and the Pyranees. ^_^

Granted...maybe I should have said Basque enclave? settlement? village? ghetto?

as to not be confused with modern day Basque Country recognized as everything but sovereign.

Sorry that not many blood related people to me are red scarf wearing, Franco period gun-toting guerillas in the Pyranees squeezed by territory changes to live there there like on some frippin govt Reservation.

We were sailors as most Basque famously were for ages. My family stayed, did not give up the language or move despite the Portuguese Inquisition. The last full fluent speaker of Euskara in my family stateside died in 1984.

Is that like saying a Polish person with ancestors born during that..um 100+ years she wasn't on map...when another owned a piece of it through occupation cannot be Polish? RLY?

I guess I better inform my daSilva family living around Braga and Porto they better get back on the Rez! Only allowed to live in Bilbao! Because some net-troll who knows ALL about Basques, Portuguese on the web says so. 9_9

Though I guess the Castillian/Portuguese Morenos in my family can stay around Coimbra still.

LAWLZ: But happy to provide you an opportunity to feel temporarily superior to someone and informing me of my own heritage

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

I have had good experiences with my new poor Polish. I have elicited nothing but gentle humor. And correction if I really muffed the word.

French Cities have been the only foreign (to me ) language that has had rude condescension and comments to that effect. And permanently turned me off anything to do with said country.

To be fair, the French that were out in the country on way to Germany were a lot more laid back. The food improved the farther from city we were as well. This is my opinon from first time as 6 yr old and second time on a field trip in my Sophomore year. All the french I can remember without nearly crashing to my mental desktop; is Shut the Door! and Let's go to the beach. I can still read it passable.

I don't remember any problems in Castile region or going up into Portugal basque country (but I was fluent enough then, english was not my first language). Perhaps they were nicer to kids. Maybe they got more snooty now? My family is more likely to correct slangy mexicans than anglos speaking spanish.

While staying with Weiss and Bagnesk/Bagenski cousins in Nurnburg Germany and around Stribro it was snow outside, sleigh rides AND all FOOD FOOD FOOD..with kinderbeir, cocoa and warm mulled wine and MORE FOOD! hard to bring away a bad vibe from that. I didn't want to leave! Ever!

now THAT is an international ice breaker!

Life / Foreigners in Poland - the identities of our native or the host country [66]


:)
The PLAN... about 5 years
though I may visit Poland sooner while seeing my good friend in Helsinki and my cousin Marya in Poplze.
(lol..i have learned to always consider plans as a goal.. in case life throws a spanner in the works)

The "schedule" that my paramour relocates here to the US,
(and if I do not reject him for a third ear or having a tail:: I'm being silly.. but he does seem sure to leave me a"break out clause"' to avoid his secret RL hideousness- and if you are reading dear? :p )

...we marry this year and we both sock away money for a few years enough to start a business. He thinks to move back in about 5-8 years. So I expect some time to learn about day to day life in Poland and get a modest vocabulary of Polish.

Reality is that he is very close to his family and if ANYthing happens to his mum or dad, he'd want to go back right away. And if he is successful with a job within his BA robotics..he may embrace American lifestyle to point of not wishing return except in the case mentioned above. He is already more American than I am except on the view about firearms.

Edit: BTW he is from the region of Bialystok.. I haven't noticed anything particularly provincial about him ^-^


:) you are right about that. Though I took it as more of a surprising question than one of any bad intent. Since I box "temporary visitor for work /vacation" separate from "resettling/retiring in another country".


:( that is sooo sad. it can happen even if the child lives in same region and country.
I'm the only person left who attends to and sends flowers to my X mum-in-law's gravesite. And I pay a kid to clean it up every quarter...well I pay his kid now. LOL child labor.She left millions in trust to her kids and the grandkids, but will be forgotten by all but my oldest son when I'm gone.

Life / Foreigners in Poland - the identities of our native or the host country [66]


Huh? what an odd comment....
did you not follow the rest of that paragraph or referrring to something else entirely?

No. If I am simply on a work permit I do NOT expect that I shall DIE before I return home! 0_0

....and if I have somehow invested heavily long-term on foreign soil and have not made arrangements to go "home" before I die..it wasn't much of a home or my new home has earned my loyalty. So it is my place of orgin, not my home.

If I retire somewhere foreign ...same thing.

meh, but then again I have knee-jerk reaction to even seeming a carpet bagger.

Love / Are all women in Warsaw opposed to short term friendship? [5]


now add..ANY COUNTRY.

And IW that phrase in English usually means..:sleep with me but not get attached or mind when I move on.

Sorry dude, I don't think Poland is the treasure trove of loose yet still clean regular can-meet-in-a-cafe women interested to panting in "otherness" of the foreign visitor..any more than your home or the US or UK or Nigeria. I'm sure you can find naive muffinheads and slutcakes where you came from when you get home.

Or if you can't wait or are kinda crazy, I guess you can go out of way to somehow find the loose girls of Poland ..and I bet you dont speak Polish either.

LOL! U.S. guys always think that girls in Ibezia are just panting to bang some fugly old fat loser white guy from Ahmarikah simply because they sunbathe topless..LOL That myth resurrects often.

Benefit of the doubt?
IF you are just looking for female company... Polish are rumored (I know few native Poles so cannot say with fact) a bit standoffish at first and formal in acquaintance until they get to kow you. Sorta distrustful. But most well brought up girls in any country are not going to just hang with some vacationer they were not introduced to at work or by a friend. Not to mention it is uncomfortable to just "hang" with a stranger who doesn't speak your language unless you have a personality to babysit and mother people. ^_^ .. and it is a scary world..the girl that left with a stranger because she was friendly as a puppy can end up the girl found dead by the river. Why only a girl if very temporary and platonic? if ANY local friend ..hang with some friendly dudes at a pub.

You would easiest find a sight seeing buddy at the hotel you are at.

Life / Foreigners in Poland - the identities of our native or the host country [66]


LAWL..this. I HATE the EO world. But I play the card.

As a generic, white looking female if I simply put 'white' all over my app? I never see an interview.
If I just sent a resume, glowing referrals and my unique qualifictions for 'X' position to save time? Round file.

BUT... if I mention my legal nationality, specialties, ethincity?

I can get hired for job immediately that I can do, but have less experience for ; if[i][/i] I happen to mention that I am:

FEMALE-HISPANIC-NATIVE AMERICAN-VETERAN

It should NOT make a difference!! >: ( the ONLY thing that an employer should adjust for is handicaps because they may need some reasonable accomodation to be effficient.

AS for the original OP musings. The differences between Expat/Immigrant etc.
as a worker in a foreign country I would consider myself a guest. I would do my job, make some friends but always keep in mind my goal of going HOME. I would be strongly American.

If it does indeed come to pass that after a few years I go to Poland to live with a Polish husband (anything can happen regardless of planning..but it is the outcome we expect), Then it is my new home.

I will always be what I was raised as.. friendly, neighborly, conservative, traditional, Catholic. I will always have my Tsalagi cultural inheritance, my role number, my family histories of Portuguese and Bohemian. So I can't be "Polish" LOL not even if my Boheme Bagenski were previously Polish. But I wouldn't be strongly holding to my "american-ness' and be raising my children there to be Polish. I would assimilate to become a Polish citizen.

If I started a business...(just as I have done here in US before..) my hiring preference would be local first and only importing from another region/state if there was simply no one local that could qualify. In technology I would headhunt local schools and top schools first before importing a specialist from elsewhere. Exception might be senior team leads, to have people with experience. In the case of a business in Poland all my employees would have to speak at least rudimentary Polish and my customer service people would need to speak Polish, probably English and likely languages of our largest consumers.

I have never been attracted to dark men (or exceptionally hairy ones) and adore pale, golden hues. I especially like light eyes. And boy, did this thread draw some ugly comments and promix weirdos! 0_0

I guess I better be glad my man isn't like some here and actually likes my "exotic" coloration and look. LOL
He dislikes when I bleached my freckles or wear makeup... ^_^ darn purist.
And my ..um.."mongrel" children are pretty good upgrades for my in laws, and I think I can safely say cute in any general view. I'm sure my AmPol mutts will be as attractive and not attract much notice at all except for their heights as my current children do (My 17yr girl= 182, My 14yr boy 186, my 7 yr old 146. Dad?156)

Love / Are Polish men handsome to you? [182]


So far my contacts who are native Polish are gentlemen.
And are not likely to ever wear army pants.

So many males commenting here <_<


I am afraid despite my affection , I would point and laugh if my beloved popped in front of me wearing such a get up.

When not in casual at the University he wears Wranglers and T shirts. His mom and sister tried recently to talk him into purchasing 'more fashionable' "skinny jeans". Thankfully he resisted.

Life / Washing machine in the bathroom of Poles [78]

Most homes I have ever lived in that don't have a specific 'mud room'; have the laundry towards the back of the house or near/in garage regardless of kitchen location. Or in the basement (in my WA home that had kitchen at back side off garage).

Condominums and townhouses are more 30/70 towards kitchen at back because bedrooms are upstairs.

And in following that, most homes I have ever lived in the kitchen was one side of the front of the home. Both in antique homes and new ones.

This includes the family ranchero outside Sao Paulo and a time share in Puerto Penasco and my cousins farmhouse outside Nurnburg.

So, I suppose that influences fact I'd prefer my laundy off/in a bathroom rather than my kitchen. I love bacon, not sure if I want my shirt to smell like bacon. I can't imagine thinking my clothing would be considered soiled coming from my bathroom rather than my kitchen. I don't wash my socks in the toilet! 0_0 and even then, though the idea is distasteful, the bowl and water within are initially clean before..um..use. The floor is realistically more clean at any given moment since bathroom traffic is not as heavy and my kids wont be eating toast in there.

UK, Ireland / Why are Brits so left-wing? [60]

Are they?

The few native Brits I've met I'd call kinda stuffy, unless they were drunk out of their socks. ^_^. But those were tourists OR army units that were housed near our own Bn. I would consider them more conservative and traditionalists. Not extreme right like in US..but we are a bigger place after all ^_^. Loud voices are needed to carry the distances. I see the extreme left in Brits only in forums on the web.

Maybe better wording is why is the Brit Govt seemingly liberal leaning.?

AS a conservative myself... in view the left can be a lot of groups, some are simply caring more for humanatraian and ecologial causes above practicality; but Liberals who have almost completely infiltrated the Democratic party, are pretty much a socialist agenda and they will promise anything until they can finally get full power.

I do not believe in "labeling" I do not support PRO GAY. Nor PRO WHITE. PRO HISPANIC. There are no "disadvantaged" classes other than the poor-regardless of color. Equal means equal. Shifting balances to which animals are more equal than others is not equality. I cannot get hired easily by my looks..but in paper? disclosing I am FEMALE-HISPANIC-NATIVE -VETERAN and speaking spanish? I fill the quotas and am hired. I shouldnt HAVE to do that when I am qualified candidate ! And it is my personal cause to erase such policies for every day am an american.

I want to see fair immigration (NO one gets by being illegal and everyones application is seen fairly and treated equal- (no dif between a mexican, a russian or an aussie). I want to see fed govt spending strictly controlled. Programs streamlined (save money with less administrators-more fieldworkers). Shorter terms and term limits for Senators and Representatives. I want the borders tightened and more sovereignity exercised.

Which seems what UK is planning soon? makes them sound like they are swinging pretty far right in that respect.


Not sure where you are native to, but " left wing" (do not confuse with only the democatic party) in the US is NOT connected with mannerly people!

Unless professional politicians with an eye on a seat in senate, house or the white house.
Most are the rudest, foam at the mouth nasty vitrolic spouting busybodies you could ever meet. A large portion of my family is California... I got some first hand. Smoozy lawyers and education professionals in the non -mathmatical fields. the "stuffy" Brits I met I would consider over-conservative with their fomality and manners.

With exception of abortion debating in street that has all tempers high.. ?
you see a confrontation between left /right.. on the right we spout they misguded nutjobs and commies( there are usually fewer of us since we are not perpetual students getting grants for the next degree in basketweaving so dont have that kind of spare time) - they spout oppressor, babykillers, bigots and then personal insults. They are more likely to be the one screaming in a Policeman or opposing picketers face. More likely to make it physical; to throw something, destroy something. throw rock down off bridge at cars of soldiers wives (2004-2005-2006) when they see base sticker on window. Be a professional teacher that tells children (Tacoma 2005) that their parent deserves to die in Iraq for being in an "illegal war" ... DONT tell ME Left is synonmous with "polite!' LAWLZ

Human decency..is only for the left? WoW! Rly? see how many "left wing" organizations help the poor in a real way..or even give to CHARITY. Not Organizations like ACORN...CHARITY. My aunt spends time boycotting this or that and giving 20 bucks to a chirstmas angel. But has never worked in a soup kitchen, never helped build a house, never paid anyones power or phone.Watched children for free to help someone get established in a job. Never shopped for anyone. Wicked old right wing me has. :( So it is often insulting to be labeled as some unfeeling hater of all gays, non-whites(what IS non white?), women and progress.

It may be different in UK. I don't think most countries have such a deep division between their parties (then again the Serbo-croatia conflict might shocwase an extreme in that?). But most countries are not as big as most of our states. Poland is the size of New Mexico. UK? maybe size of PA ?

Maybe thinking of each state like it's own country might help. Texas actually WAS it's own country when it was swallowed with a pen stroke just before Civil War. Would UK want Ukraninan polices? Or Danish? Or Greek? How big would the split in parties become if other countries/states had a real say on how you were taxed, where the taxes went, what laws were passed? And each party stood for a small block of countries?


Though technically we are a republic andn the citizenry behave as such..that word Democracy is very misued by politicos. our economic policies are democratic..not our govt.

But you got it right there!
and it also hints at the collaborative corruption of both "leading" parties that an electorate and "primaries" are still existing :(

Id love a strong new party. With equal opportunity fo rmeia. Even a non of the above so a new candidate must be chosen for my registered party!

Language / When is speaking Polish showing off and when is it ok? [46]

Unless I was sure English was spoken I am not sure.

I would try the home language first and let them rescue me if any speak engish and ask if any please do.
I had wonderful and humours experience ordering a chocolate telegram this week for my dearest. He was wonderfully patient and took at all with man-giggles. But he wanted to be sure before filling the custon order, So we awaited the english speaking associate. Who only instructed me to try the website again. So my language buddy ended up making the order. Seems something with my OS was incompatible with the site which is why I wasn't seeing the full menu.

It was a good experience for me, all around.. except for DPD. My blind grandma on a galapagos turtle is a better courier..

At home in US.I was always careful not to be so rude as to speak non-english with my cousins in front of our friends; who did not speak Portuguese or Boheme.

UK, Ireland / How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here? [474]


Thanks :)

Its the little insights, not big issue arguements, that let me know what it may be like to live in day to day Poland

Love / Woman 23, man 47 years old. What do you think about ? [162]


^^This

I might ask some questions...try to see what led them to the unusual choice. Especially if it seemed sudden. I would warn them of obstacles, the kind that can stress and break relationships. But in the end I love my children and they are not me...they are their own person. I trust them as well adjusted individuals to make stable choices in most things. Though love is always a gamble.

I wish for their success in their wants and their happiness, how could I not support them, specially when they are not hurting anyone.
But really as long as the person was treating them well (amd they were not becoming monsters to that person) and they were content, I would have little else to say except are there any foods they're allergic to? and leave off the Christmas dinner menu. I guess it would seem odd to be calling a person that could be my peer 'daughter/son". But I'm sure if they were a sweet person that made my baby happy... the oddness would fade.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2776]


You mean Poland, yes?

My passion to own firearms here in US are motivated by things that would be moot in Poland as I understand.
I never intended anything illegal on my own part. ^_^ Never have and don't intend to change that.
As I said ... once/if/when I live in Poland ..I may very well not even desire or miss a handgun
(except the antique piece handed down thru my family in it's capacity as memorabilia)

As for passion in temperment..meh. My daddy said never handle your guns, stay in an arguement or correct your kids when your dander's up.

Love / Polish men :( demand forgiveness [35]


I second that emotion.!!!!

Caraj That kinda of attitude is NOT good for you. I don't think that specifically is Polish thing. But it is BAD thing. And every day you spend with Mr Right Now is a day you will never spend with a possible Mr. Right.

While he was my BF, my Fiance didnt demand forgiveness during our one break, he pleaded.. (and he did nothing even CLOSE to such disrespect to me and to us! kicked me to the friend zone when he had heavy familial pressure) and it has been nothing to this day but what was promised for 11 mos as engaged.

Love can fade or be mistaken.. and it's removal is painful... but disrespect or mistreatment is intolerable.

If you peek at threads with those that positively promote Polish men, you will realize...if a traditional male like most Polish are respects you and KNOWS wishes to spend his whole life with you ..you are his best friend, his Princess, his Lady, his Queen , his goddess; all in one. And he will rope the moon for you.

Love / Polish men :( demand forgiveness [35]


0-0 ALL?

LAWLZ are you like a Lothario..? You marry the good girl of the week then dumping her when she created into the harridan of the year?

^_^ "all" that sure sounds awful. I hate that I have one "Ex" I can't imagine having a collection !

UK, Ireland / How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here? [474]

Question:
So should they do so ..would they have to take the shoe from the other foot?

Would they expect this referendum on immigration to stay one way?..why should other countries honor the treatise that allowed their nationals abroad any special VISA or immgration perks. What if other countries revoked these things such as foreign ownership of vacation or retirement properties (Mexico and S.A. do this all the time with major government changes. Never buy property in Costa Rica you want to keep) and refilled Britain with all of those who recently left?

Would that help Britain? in long run?

And also: Would the Polish government give any "EU" priviledges to British Expats on their soil that were not naturalized yet? Or kick all but the most lucrative businesses out? ^_^

Just asking.... to get an idea how Polish government might sway on this type issue