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sa11y   
14 Sep 2012
Life / Do Poles drink before noon? [95]

this is a first generation revelation and act like 'burek spuszczony ze smyczy'.

I don't think the commercialism is a novelty any more. It's been around for at least 20 years.

the old family farmsetad and graves are not in the big cities or the UK, but in Wólka Plebańska, Brzeziny, Mikołajów and thousands of other such rural hamlets and villages

Sure - but your relatives will be the ones in the graves, the ones that are alive will probably be living elswhere...

'snooty'

That's what I meant - typo
sa11y   
14 Sep 2012
Life / Do Poles drink before noon? [95]

don’t know a bloody thing about American Polonia, even though I have tried to explain it so łopatologically

Polonius - we may not know about Polonia, but you are clearly out of touch with Poland.
It DOESN'T MATTER that they originally came from rural area, the family they have in Poland more than likely migrated in the last 50 years to towns or even more likely to UK (a lot of Poles in UK come from rural areas, there is much less jobs there).

Not many People in Polish village actually have farm.
Those that do - yes, they might slaughter a pig, although if they do have farm it's probably stock that they are intending to sell to butchery, so I wouldn't count on that in every case.

You call all of us who don't agree with you "snotty urban style sophisticates" - we are not that. We are just realistic.

Things changed in Poland, it's not like it was 50 years ago, please either believe it or come here for yourself and see. You might be disappointed with some things and happy with others. OK, who am I to say - I don't even live in Poland now - but I did until 5 years ago.

Things changed even in last 5 years, you can't even imagine the change compared to 50 years ago.
You seem to have this romantic idea in your head which is build on what Poland used to be like and which has nothing to do with reality.

It is not about Polonia.
It's about reality in Poland.
sa11y   
14 Sep 2012
Life / Do Poles drink before noon? [95]

Des Essientes
Well, I travel few thousands miles to meet with family in Poland, yet I respect their schedules and family meetings usually occur on weekends and evenings. With a high (for Europe) unemployment, people tend to take their jobs seriously and not take unplanned leave. Some actually plan leave at times when relatives come, but it's usually just regular family gathering with catching up on stories and stuff. Then I would say they may have a beer or or glass of wine in the afternoon. The point is - the question "do Poles drink before noon" to me is a question if this is done on regular basis. I would say - in the morning, no - not even on family gatherings. In the afternoon, occasionally - weekends and holidays if friends and family are around
sa11y   
13 Sep 2012
Life / Do Poles drink before noon? [95]

Sobieski, i was thinking weekends, friends gatherings not weekday drinking.
sa11y   
13 Sep 2012
Life / Do Poles drink before noon? [95]

Yes Polonius, we understand, then you probably drink 24/7. But looking at ease of travel in last decade there is really no reason not to see your relatives a bit more often than once in 50 years. The bottom line is - most Poles don't drink before late afternoon/ evening.
sa11y   
10 Sep 2012
UK, Ireland / Poles becoming British subjects [39]

Citizenship should only be awarded to foreigners who have made an outstanding positive contribution to the nation

And how would you define that contribution? How would you measure "outstanding"? Vs. what?
Aren't there set of criteria that one has to meet anyway?
sa11y   
9 Sep 2012
Travel / How quickly does the sun set in Poland? [12]

Angie, I was saying that sun does not set the same. Latitude is the main reason, but also amount of moisture, smog, clouds. Amazingly enough some polluted places have beautiful sunsets.
sa11y   
6 Sep 2012
Life / Is Poland a poor country? [578]

what's "eastern style hotel" and how it differs from "western style hotel"

The main difference I found (mainly with private owned accommodation, not necessarily hotels) is that in "western style" accommodation you will have towels, toiletries, tea/coffee, hair dryer, iron etc (+ all, or at least most, utensils you need if renting apartment/ suite). I recently spent holidays in Poland (we usually stay in apartments, as having small kid we value space...). In Poland, lots of places still don't give you those little things that make your stay more pleasant. They sometimes provide them on request.

I didn't see too much of difference in case of hotels, if anything, 3-4 star hotel in Poland will be slightly better than UK fro example.
sa11y   
5 Sep 2012
Law / Polish Contracts [6]

they wish to sell me something

If they wish to sell you something tell them that you can't evaluate their proposal UNLESS they use English in communication with you. It has nothing to do with law, just plain common sense (regardless what law says).
sa11y   
3 Sep 2012
News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]

everyone there had a decent standard of living

They definitely had better standard of living then they have now, that's for sure... I'm not supporting previous regime, but what happened there is a total and spectacular failure.
sa11y   
2 Sep 2012
USA, Canada / Who is better informed, the expat or the Polonia crowd? [144]

Tefl, like I said, it all depends how long the Pole has been living away and how long the expat has been living in Poland. For a period of time the both tend to live in a bubble, after that they live the life of the new country. That's talking from experience. I'm sure there are exceptions.
sa11y   
2 Sep 2012
USA, Canada / Who is better informed, the expat or the Polonia crowd? [144]

I am an expat. Pole in South Africa. But i can assure everyone, that i don't hold monopoly for knowledge of what's going on in Poland. I'd like to, but i know that going on web to read news is not enough to stay in touch with all new developments. I'd only been living away from PL for 5 years. But this is long enough. So yes, i think that if you take an expat that lived in PL for 5 years vs. myself who lived outside for 5 years than expat will know more. But you have to consider "initiation period", for me it was 2-3 years, when although I lived in SA i was not really involved in what went on here. I think similar period will apply for expats in Poland, your first couple of years is exploring and enjoying, don't try to prove that you know more.
sa11y   
28 Aug 2012
Law / PESEL number form. Could you tell me what this means and what I need to fill in? [8]

I have no clue... If you are Polish citizen, this is given automatically. I think you need to ask at the place where you are applying.

1. Imiona Kolejne? - other names (if you have more than one name)

2. nazwisko rodowe? I found it means maiden name so I would think that my husband does not need to fill in anything here? - correct

3. kod teritorialny? - I think this is the post code, I never before saw this expression
sa11y   
24 Aug 2012
Law / HELP - Polish Tax on undeclared money from family [18]

she resently (>1 monthago) closed the sharres and transferred the money to her official bank account

I think the share agreement as Harry suggested is best option.
As to the value... I gave my mum around 50 000 (bit less), so unless you got from gran significantly more, I think it still falls in the same progression bracket.
sa11y   
24 Aug 2012
UK, Ireland / Crap parenting in our UK youth today (in Poland it's a little better) [52]

The only reason I would smack my child would be to teach it what is wrong and what is right

But you don't need to smack child to teach them this. I smacked my 3 year old son on number of occasions, but I must admit that I got better results sending him to "naughty corner" or denying him toys for bad behavior.

The problem with smacking is that it helps the parent to vent off the anger rather than having effect of the child. The stronger the anger the stronger the slap. I'm no angel. I do get angry. Sometimes it results in a slap on my 3-year-old's bum. But I still don't support it.
sa11y   
23 Aug 2012
Law / HELP - Polish Tax on undeclared money from family [18]

The granny is still alive

If Granny is still alive, then just ask her to "give it again" with current date... Then there will be no delay. I don't think there is any tax to be paid if "darowizna" because that's what it's called comes from close family member. I gave my mum some money recently to help her with out with buying a flat and it was all tax free. The declaration is only to make the money "legal".
sa11y   
22 Aug 2012
UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]

Its a numbers game. If a similar number of Germans or Dutch entered the country, as the number of Poles, people would complain about them instead. Plus, a lot of Poles get marred to non EU citizens. Then the non EU citizen can bring its family over too. Thus, you get a double whammy.

True - but that only means that you can't fairly compare the Germans or Dutch to Poles - because of the scale.

Poor old Magdalena is a tiny minority arguing for the rest of the clan

No, she is not.
But it's all a catch22.
There are two basic things that Polish people need to be able to do before they get accepted in any local circles.
First, a Polish person has to speak fairly good English before any English people will accept you. This is absolutely normal - I work with foreigners from all over the world and know how frustrating it can be to constantly make effort to understand someone and communicate with them.

Then, once they made some effort and learnt to communicate, they still have to have some money to socialize with the English (unfortunately lots of Polish people fail here, either due to fact that they earn less or due to their priorities).

Unfortunately - it takes time to learn English. Polish people have naturally low confidence level, so unless they are comfortable with their level of English, they stick to their own circles - which makes learning worse. In the end, they stop learning altogether and don't improve their communication, which in turn means that their English will not be good enough for English people to communicate with them fairly effortlessly (and those even stand a chance to be accepted). This means, that they will continue staying with their old circles, establishing Polish communities and kinder-gardens etc.

Many people went through the whole process and are now at different level. Possibly got married to English. Have good jobs. They might be a minority, but I wouldn't say a tiny minority.

Another thing - some people see UK only as a place of work, not home. They are there for a year or two and want to return home. Sometimes they don't, but UK is still not seen as home. This does not encourage integration.
sa11y   
21 Aug 2012
Language / Funny/strange/deviant words in the Polish language [35]

[Moved from]: What are your favorite lines in Polish movies?

Polish movies (especially those from communist era) have very specific kind of humor.
Have you got any favorite lines that you could share with the rest of us?
One of my favorites is "Kopernik Byla kobieta! ("Copernicus was a women!") from "Seksmisja".
Other good one: "Londyn? Nie ma takiego miasta Londyn! Jest Lądek, Lądek Zdrój! (London? There is no such town as London. There is Lądek, Lądek Zdrój!) - this is from "Miś".
sa11y   
16 Aug 2012
Real Estate / Buying an apartment in Poland or renting is better? [12]

prices will go down for good while longer

The graph you are referring to actually does not seem to suggest that. Rather that they are reaching plateau. From what I remember from technical analysis after that they can go either way.

Remember - that situation on Polish market changed after accession to EU, which created increase in property price (given the time lag it takes to earn some money...)

I think that to have real comparison you have to look at specific standards and prices on European market. A nice, modern 2/3 bedroom apartment (let's say 75 sqm) will probably will probably cost similar in most European cities (OK, there might be certain level of differences between Paris, London and Warsaw, but the differences will be smaller when you look i.e at Berlin, Budapest, Prague and Warsaw). People that can afford more, will go for better standard, that's why properties in western countries are generally bigger. People that can afford less, will go for lower standard or smaller place. OK, this is going to create movement on the market, but long terms prices will equalize. The issue is - you can't look at historical prices and expect that prices will go down to the previous level. This will never happen. Property market changed in last 10 years and there is no going back, unless something very drastic happens.

The way I interpret this graph? I think prices might go down a bit more (not much) then stay there for a little while and start going up.
sa11y   
14 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Warsaw or New York? Where to work, raise a family, etc... [14]

in today’s economic climate (in the US and Poland) it is not easy to leave a well paying, secure job

I have exactly the same problem, both me and my husband have good jobs in SA, would love to move back to Poland, but we would be looking at salary cut...

if you plan to make a living teaching.

MoOli - he will not be a regular teacher in regular school. I agree with Pip and Harry, if he can get a good job with one of the American schools, he can give it a try. He is actually in fortunate position, that he can do without speaking Polish if he does that.
sa11y   
14 Aug 2012
Law / Turkish citizen. Civil marriage in Poland - Urgent [25]

to stay 2 weeks at most

Yusuf - Turkey is not that far and there are plenty cheap flights.
Why don't you come twice, once to apply (you could probably fly back the same day) and then come second time to get married?