Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]

Individual level
Personality disorders (narcissistic, histrionic, psychopaths, borderline...) like that maneuver. shifting the blame, having blind spot for the consequences of their actions.
Those who can feel deep guilt and try to avoid it all costs,
Those who are forbidden to feel guilty for some reasons (i.e. Don't feel X feeling it's for weaklings), and so on...

Culturally, I would guess that more laissez faire environments ( communist past), orthodox background rather than catholic (again, rather than protestant) more rarely trigger guilt.

Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]


I would choose Mode. The most robust measure as in this case(s) should be. Robust.

I have to admit, that this all sounds too messed up even for my ears.

One bacteria should travel as fast as light, that part I think I got correctly ;)

Genealogy / Typical Polish Eye Color [77]

Why is Europe so diverse when it comes to eye or hair color?

In other animals, bright colors are usually due to sexual selection. Sometimes the result may be a "color polymorphism" (see box). This is because a potential mate is attracted not just by a bright color but also by a rare one that stands out from the crowd. By enhancing reproductive success, however, such a color will also become more common and less eye-catching. Sexual attraction will then shift to less common variants, the eventual result being an equilibrium that maximizes color diversity.

I as a southern Slav have one blue and one brown allele, dominant is mom's brown, so I have brown eyes. Having slightly below 50% of light eye colors (blue, green) and more than 50 % (lighter brown, darker brown, my sister's devil black without pupils ;)) of darker colored eyes, south Slavs seem not to have preferences when it comes to color of eyes. I heard pro brown (passionate) and pro blue (dangerous) voices, which supports above mentioned explanation of diversity. Nothing stands out from the crowd here. Only very light hair color. So it is unterstandable why most women here when they color their hair they tend to choose light blond nuances.

History / Khazar migrations to Eastern Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine [106]

One of our best novels is about Khazars, the title of the novel- lexicon is The Dictionary of Khazars written by Milorad Pavic.

I think it is worth reading. The plot is developing around efforts of officials of Judaism, Islam and Christianity to get Khazars on their side.

Published in english in 1988.

History / Origins of Polish Slavs [139]


Austrian kind of introduction. Apologetic. Negative bias toward phenomenon from the start.

Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]


My guess was that it had to do something with the climate. Not knowing enough I have to assume a lot ...


Why six, why not seven, ten? For example...?


There is no difference, at least I heard so : )))

I have a friend who during his history studies following his newly born religious motives, feeling like a Jesus :) decided to perform that intervention, found a willing surgeon, and revealed the results, oversensitivity followed by desensitization at the end if I recall well. Why would anybody want to feel less there where more is possible and when ultimate phantasy is sexual in its nature? ;)

( I have two more friends who during their adolescence had to be operated because of careless promiscuity, I heard more about the topic than needed from first.... hand? :)))))) In general, they were not thrilled with the results.....

Life / 3 reasons why winter is the best time of the year in Poland [58]

My Slavic archetype is sleepy when it comes to winter as preferred season :(((((

I absolutely hate it.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


Better than changing the program when the winds keep changing directions and blow from east to west then west to east changing the climate each time.

it should be banned ; )

edit

History has the relation to truth that theology has to religion - i.e., none to speak of.

Hehe.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Are you sure that it isn't the other way around, hungarian borrowings in Slavic languages?

I understand those two :) The first one aways sounded to me like the most important of Ottoman heritage in this area, for the second I was almost certain it was originally hungarian word.

Love / POLISH WOMEN ARE PROMISCUOUS? DISCUSS. [153]

Previous survey, US, showed:

The results of the 2010 survey broke down like this:

At What Point Does A Woman Become Sexually Promiscuous?

Never? 14%
When she sleeps with her 10th partner? 41%
When she sleeps with her 20th partner? 34%
When she sleeps with her 50th partner? 14%
When she sleeps with her 100th partner? 3%

Few years ago I heard for some insane definition given by allegedly WHO or some similar organization saying that if number of partners exceeds one per year, person should fulfill the high standards to be one of the stigmatized. Then 90 % of women are sluts.

I doubt the source, it was a rumor of one conservative MD.

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


Pan Pennboy, my deepest...... admiration? :) (I am certain it is the wrong word, but the other concept I have in mind about this does not exist in this reality, so...)


I'm happy to inform you, you officially have a stalker ;)

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


An insult! If you like those who like to play hide and seek, this area is not for you ;)

And by the way what kind of hypocrisy is that, one shows herself in the bikini during summer vacations regularly to total strangers, take pics, post them on FB and then suddenly that rule doesn't apply to winter? Or all media flood you daily with mostly poorly decorated :) celebs, sportsmen but that is OK, why?

That bikini is then wrongly seated in the sets of beliefs that guide the person. Not natural. Shameful. exception to the rule.

Is perhaps body per se vulgar, and face not? (I see more often unpleasant faces than unpleasant bodies. Body speaks less than face.)

I am not attacking your view Pennboy, I know many people see it that way. I am just not sure why. Why using the bikini option at all if it is considered actually shameful and too disclosing?

I would give up bikini in summer if I felt that way. If I were ashamed for example, I wouldn't use it in summer, winter, autumn....

Consistent behavior... where are you?

Arabs seem to have regulated that field with more honesty, swimming fully dressed always? ;) (I guess I would be typing from some nice prison if I were an Arab now :))


You would date girl that tall?

Our more muscled men :))))) like taller women. Not that tall, the magic number they would all like to have by their sides is 178 cm. And it is often achievable.

Milorad Čavić the swimmer born and raised in California chose the other volleyball player, she is 185cm. Ivana djerisilo. They were 2 years together.

Let's appreciate their bodies.

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Pennboy yes, she is one of three, four varieties. Belgrade fabric, one octave down, sexy, but she is volleyball player probably very tall :)

I posted other subspecies in Balkan corner.

Pennboy, under the male terror of highly specialized criteria imposed to women here (regular exercise, always displayed in highest resolution, hair, modest but necessary make up, diets, fashion dictate without rights to deviate in any direction, especially weight or style), I have to say that she represents a large group of very similar girls. They are just shorter than she is.

They are actually quite uniformed. I never understood that part though. Actually I think that is influence of Italians. Whenever I was in Rome, all men were dressed the same, for example some violet nuance for the season, they all wear it, next years something else, same for women, and Serbs, Croats and Slovenians travelled for 50 years to Italy for shopping.

Ivana is in this clip above average but not that much for that model. I think she is a bit bulky, that prototype was designed to be skinny, skinnier, skinniest ;)

So, random sampling would make you happy :), Belgrade or Novi Sad.

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Why is that exciting for you?

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


True.

The horrors of fall of Berlin wall. Or Iron curtain. Then winds blow and blow and blow uncontrollably.

They simply couldn't resist the shiny package that actually contains nothing. Anyway, Edward Bernays, the master manipulator of the masses already said that people are idiots.


I am uberwoman myslef :)), and if you use images of brunettes for masturbation it doesn't mean that all other men should follow your wrong path ;)

America reinvented and recreated a blond big breasted monster with duck lips. (Although, I have sympathies for that kind of vulgarization of women, truth has to be told ;))

It is simple pic, named Mona Lisa after visiting US.

Rules of free market when it comes to human resources, plastic surgeons, hollywood and gays destroyed Woman :D

I am for more draconic measures when it comes to discipline of those creatures.

Very big digression (I read some guy's status few years ago on FB : 'I don't trust creatures that bleed for five days and don't die after that.' . I concur )

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


Europeans are result of heavy mixing already and have significant phenotype varieties within those millions that constitute each nation. Some exceptions exist.

Pennboy, her make up is holding the edges of her eyes not to fall on the floor.

When will you move from DD cups to their faces and pay some attention? :)

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


Marriage?!

Who was talking about marriage? :)))

I was talking about sexual preferences, men can prefer to marry brunettes over blondes, but it is an one simple male manipulation to make their wives less attractive for other males a way to cope with the anxiety controlling things ;)), they just persuade them to change the dying color number.

And no more bleach, honey you look classy like this ;)

As a woman I was subject of similar maneuvers more than once. From change of clothing style, no make up, weight change and hair color/style. Before and after kind of pics :))

usually I was looking like an idiot on those after pics. Shorter, lighter, more open, starvation for few days and things were back to normal within days ;))

Erection can lead to marriage, but it more frequently ends with that stupid or silly sex. I mean, I am not a men, but there is some tendency I observed as an outsider.... :D

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


This is perverted version of communism :))) (Some traits are not equally distributed, easier to accept that than to fight it )

Polish women I saw indeed are pretty. Not those Pennboy likes , all the other ones ;)

i noticed that there is also consensus on Scandinavian women among men with various backgrounds.

People have their preferences and it appears that interracial connections are not that much a rule, rather less likely events.

You cannot force people to feel attracted to something that doesn't press the alarm button. There is no possibility that socially imposed norm could change the physiological laws.

It is fighting back the gravity or not :))

History of treatment of homosexuality, long, sad and useless one proved that sexual preferences are not alterable.

Most of the white men like white women, preferably blondes. Preferably bigger breast, longer legs too , and Polish women possess those features more frequently than Turkish women. Punkt.

On some Asian forum or African American forum you would get different picture. Opposites attract , but not absolute opposites usually. People like to see some similarities too.

It is perfectly reasonable to expect that on Polishforums people find Polish women most beautiful. On this planet. In this universe. And in all parallel ones.

They selected them through centuries to look so cute ;)

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]

She is half Jewish (mom), and feels more Jewish than Russian.



She looks like a cute Russian girl.

Her father is one of oligarchs. Handsome man. I tried to figure out why I like him...he is bald :))))

It looks more like preservation of the capital than anything linked to boots.

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]


Is Daria Zhukov (Roman Abramovich's new girlfriend and wife) his granddaughter or some relative? She must be. I don't know, do you?

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]

They were mostly perverts. Ruthlessness of this man is rare. I don't know why but some things I read about him made Stalin look like honest pensioner (compared to Beria).

Ex Yu communist elite was boring. No sexually hazard games. Only lovers here and there.

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]


For me it was Beria.

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]


top model iz Milana? :))


Blackadder what kind of pûrns did you watch :)), and how come don't I speak French and Swedish fluently then, it must be ADHD, attention was taken from the language course to the background noise? :(((( I always miss the point!


1:1

Similar to you , others tried to persuade me using presentation of their oral abilities and demonstrating benefits of practice and hard work, but I wasn't convinced. (nadam se da nije uvredljivo, ako jeste oprosti) ;)

Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]


My father lived and worked with Moscow for a while, and he who liked to drink told me once on the phone: ' I have no strength for this tempo of drinking, and I have to.' And he was 190 cm over 100 kg with serious drinking potentials.

He tried to explain me that while he is sober there, nothing serious will happen business wise. I thought he was lying, but his voice was a voice of desperate man who lost the battle with Russians.

Moscow was followed usually with 2 week visit to Karlovy Vari spa for detoxication. I think he prolonged his existence with those spa periods for few years.

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]

Lodz should learn the language of Love, which one would that be?

Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

serbia app. 30th place. I thought we would be higher.

My father used to drink more than desirably (ouch) keeping the professional functioning on the extreme high levels, I have no idea how he did it.

My mother was a therapist (psychologist) that successfully led groups of alcoholics teamed with Belgrade's psychiatric institution (addiction problems).

That is how life can be funny. She never drank a drop of alcohol. Actually once, my father persuaded her to drink one beer, I was the close to pack my things and run away. I was a teenager. Manslaughter was also an idea to solve the drunk and happy parents situation.

So, I never drink, and the best turn off for me is an alcoholic cloud around a man.

I successfully killed the desire to consume alcohol in men offering something nicer than the beer. Looooooove :)))

beer, wine or love?

They always choose love.

About lies, my impression is that members of Slavic nations tend to be more direct than situation demands. Even with their descriptive languages where words are missing reflecting the short supply of precise concepts, they tended to express themselves too clear.

Lies allowed here are those which are not verbalized, silent lies, absence of truth, evasive behavior is tolerated when it comes to truth, while direct lies are draconically sanctioned by surrounding. Person is moved to margin, immediately when caught. Reasons for the lie are irrelevant and trust is lost.

I am curious about Poles, who attached this label and why? does it represent reality? I doubt somehow.

Genealogy / Do Polish people have big noses? [450]

We have a proverb, more a coping sentence for those who didn't have luck with the nose.

I like Roman and Greek type of noses, size doesn't matter. Actually, giving a static to the always active face and its muscles, I think it should be bigger rather than smaller.

Expressive and impressive.

back to the proverb: " Koliki nos, toliki ponos", it rhymes in Serbian and means literally translated, " how big is the nose, that big is the pride".

I don't know what pride there stands for.

Or do I?

Poles that posted pics here have smaller noses, cute type of noses.

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]


And?

Is that suppose to disqualify someone as a poster? Should I as a REAL Serb feel bad about the fact? Because whatever some might try to do, I won't.

I noticed the same behavior, particularly from people who were raised by societies who are suppose to be deeply liberal, where ethnic, racial and all kinds of discriminations are not allowed. And harshly punished in reality. Why then this here? Are proclaimed values just superficially there for you, while actually nothing of the taught is interiorized really?

Are your societies asking you to be something you are actually not? Tolerant for example?

Oddly, the right wingers from those societies not counting few who left the forum, didn't have a problem with the label Serb.
Actually those that I have noticed that tend to use maneuver in the quote, tend to brag about their tolerance discussing other topics. And are self proclaimed liberals, pro leftists, human rights promoters. Be coherent. System behind you appears flawed this way. And like an utter failure.

People, make up your mind, you are either tolerant and German is not another name for Casta like brahmins, while Serb is not suppose to denote pariah. Hypocrisy leaks from all the holes this way. Or you are prone to bigotry and that it is OK, then be honest and don't try to present yourself differently. That would be at least from my side respected and understood. Tolerant behavior tends to be easier for some, harder for the others.

So, Bratwurst and Guesswho were honest, use them as role models for non hypocritical and consistent behavior :)

Nataša

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]

Crow and I are Serbs. Crnogorac is Montenegrian, Blackadder and El Croata :) are Croats.

No more Serbs here ;) (Blackadder this was a joke, El Croata for you it is not a joke :))

Seriously, as one of the women who possess sadistic or and masochistic traits balanced and a bit above the average , I didn't leave this forum unlike other better adapted women, so many secrets are buried in my PM inbox (remains that way), next to information that shouldn't be hidden ;)

Trust me about some things, please.
I think I earned it.


I joined PF because I figured out that this is the forum for deviants?! ;)

Off-Topic / What languages do you know? [51]

Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrian, that is already 4 :) I can understand Macedonian, and few words of SLovenian.

OK, seriously average Russian, English, German, basic Spanish. I am illiterate.

I was typical math and physics type, not verbal. Orality is not my stronger side.

I have problem to be precise, concise and relevant. So in person, I tend to count more than to talk.