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Poles - the Nation of Liars?


Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #1
Sorry folks but the Poles are a Nation of liars. When you have an appointment with them or any kind of transaction which involves a Pole when they realise they cannot keep their side of the bargain they lie their way out of it rather than tell the truth which is usually the best option.

Ive heard some good excuses in my time but these guys are something else and the lies are so good. Its great when you catch them out.

Of course we all lie from time to time but ive never heard so much BS from a nation since i lived here.
z_darius 14 | 3,969
30 Nov 2007  #2
I'm not sure if lying is unique to Poles.
I know of entire countries Brits built on lies.
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #3
Come on you know it be true

Or maybe you dont if thats all you know (no discrimination intended)
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #4
Come on you know it be true

I think what you are experiancing is a cultural differance per se. Polish people don't lie more than other nationalities, just in a different way.
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #5
I beg to differ and so do all my foreign associates
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554
30 Nov 2007  #6
Polish people don't lie more than other nationalities, just in a different way

True... I deal with liars every day in the US.

You just have to be more selective with who you do business with.
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #7
Been waiting for a Polish guy to turn up right now, he left 2 hours ago from a place that takes 20 minutes to get here.

he has left a torrent of excuses the last one being a problem with his car.

He hasnt pulled the old traffic one yet or car crash, if he does im gonna get in my car and fukin check if theres been a car crash. They all do it, Period.

True... I deal with liars every day in the US.

Come live in Poland mate. Polish people will deny they are a nation of extreme liars but deep down they all know its true.
z_darius 14 | 3,969
30 Nov 2007  #8
I beg to differ and so do all my foreign associates

would some of them be Americans?
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
30 Nov 2007  #9
I think what you are experiancing is a cultural differance per se. Polish people don't lie more than other nationalities, just in a different way.

Now, that word 'cultural' popped in again ;-)

a friend of mine told her boss her dad had had a heart attack because she was on a final warning....now thats a whopper :)
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554
30 Nov 2007  #10
Come live in Poland mate

Wish I could :)

I've been there plenty, but never lived. I'm sure you deal with swindlers-liars-movers-shakers.......

kombinowac ;) the way of life

I don't think you can call the entire country liars though. That would be offending everyone that I know living there and would be wrong.
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #11
I beg to differ and so do all my foreign associates

OK - I will give you an example. After living in Canada I went back to work in Poland with another person - she was Canadian born, but Polish decent, so she new the language an all that. Culturally - she was Canadian an had lots of problems with the Polish way. I, had some, but not as many. Therefore, I still believe that it is a cultural differance.
Lukasz 49 | 1,749
30 Nov 2007  #12
kombinowac ;) the way of life

yes yes there is nice song about kombinowac

maybe I will present new version here

"Teraz też jest wojna

kto kombinuje ten żyje :) "
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
30 Nov 2007  #13
Or the favouite of the great british cabbie - he's on his way luv - just turning in to your road now....YEAH RIGHT!!! we get lied to every day, only today I told a guy his report would be with him by Monday - oh whats that thing on my desk :)
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #14
he has left a torrent of excuses the last one being a problem with his car.

common, that is not excusively Polish - have met tons of people in Canada, who have used excuses. You need to read people better.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,512
30 Nov 2007  #15
you need the system flushed guv... 400gbp invoice later and does the boiler work...?

lying toady fuking plumber kunt
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #16
a friend of mine told her boss her dad had had a heart attack because she was on a final warning....now thats a whopper :)

there you go
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,512
30 Nov 2007  #17
i decided i didnt like greece so went to the airport and told them my dad had had a heart attack get me home pronto like... sort of worked...
z_darius 14 | 3,969
30 Nov 2007  #18
Just wondering...
Bear with me here... many African tribes did not have a word for snow, because they never saw snow, so there was no noeed for the word. So... if lying is virtually unknown in English speaking countries then how come the English language has had a word for before the Polih nation was even noted as a nation?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,512
30 Nov 2007  #19
So... if lying is virtually unknown in English speaking countries then how come the English language has had a word for before the Polih nation was even noted as a nation?

foriegners

make sure he pays for dinner and drinks
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #20
make sure he pays for dinner and drinks

that's a given:)
southern 75 | 7,097
30 Nov 2007  #21
Wroclaw boy has to be happy.Polish penis does never lie.
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #22
Aint that the truth, im English.
Dice 15 | 452
30 Nov 2007  #23
If this is the way you feel about the country you are a guest of, I suggest you leave immediately. May I ask you what the f are you doing there? Go home, homeboy.
jonni 16 | 2,485
30 Nov 2007  #24
Hardly a guest if he lives here.

Not that there's ever been any obligation to see only the positive aspects of a place and ignor the negative ones.
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #25
If this is the way you feel about the country you are a guest of, I suggest you leave immediately. May I ask you what the f are you doing there? Go home, homeboy.

Thank you for that. I am resident in Poland for various reasons which i would rather not be splashed all over this forum sufficed to say im stuck here for another couple of years. Its not that bad really there is just so many situations that infuriate me having lived in a decent 21st Century country. Its all a fall back from the communist era at the end of the day thats what i keep telling myself but when you deal with these lying cheating/bastads on a day to day basis it becomes a strain and i need to voice that strain sometimes and this is the solution. Also i would like others to be aware what they are getting themselves into if they are considering a move over here.
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #26
Hardly a guest if he lives here.Not that there's ever been any obligation to see only the positive aspects of a place and ignor the negative ones.

finally, somebody with a balanced opinion.

If this is the way you feel about the country you are a guest of, I suggest you leave immediately

you are bit of a cookoo. The man is trying to do bussiness in Poland, so he is telling how it really is, from his point of view. Why leave?
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #27
What really annoys me is that millions of Poles have succesfully made the move to England, Scotland and Ireland over the past few years and its so simple for them. They have extremely informative web sites explaining all issues invloved in such a move.

For me in Poland the simplest issues such as buying a house organising car insurance even a visa has been blown into the biggest nightmare. Every time you go to an office thinking you have everything in order - there is a problem. Which turns out to actaully not be a problem as the person who told you it was a problem did not really know what he/she was talking about in the first place, and so it goes on... There is no such thing as downloadable forms from the internet you have to go to a fuking office and cue for hours with all the scum fighting for their place in the cue.

Polish people know what i am talking about although they will not admit it on this forum.

That really is the harsh reality of living here.

I have lived in England, America Germany and Kuwait. I have also spent time in quite a few other countries and I have never known such a labourous, redicilous, utterly senseless system as to what they have here in Poland. So many of their polocies just do not make any sense.

When is the Government going to do something about this. They keep saying that their EU integration policy is based on the model of Ireland im yet to see a similarity other then property prices.
miranda
30 Nov 2007  #28
Polish people know what i am talking about although they will not admit it on this forum.

I will. I don't have a problem with it. I went back after years of living in Canada and that drove me crazy - the banks, the attitude, the lack of being friendly. I lernt how to cope with it, but I made a lot of scenes - believe me: bank, ZUS, Post Office etc.

In case when they didn't know the answer: I would tell them: if it was my job, I would find out all the info and try to serve you. Polish people are very defensive when cornered.

The end.
OP Wroclaw Boy
30 Nov 2007  #29
THANK YOU
Bartolome 2 | 1,085
30 Nov 2007  #30
Polish people know what i am talking about although they will not admit it on this forum.

Why do you think so ? I know what you're talking about and I admit it, I hate Polish red tape too.

There is no such thing as downloadable forms from the internet

If you try, you'll find them. If you have problems, ask your Polish colleagues or on this forum. Also there are CDs attached to some specialist newspapers (e.g. 'Gazeta Prawna') where you may find some.


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