History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

American Ambassador to Poland Arthur Bliss wrote 'I saw Poland betrayed! Read that and all you've been taught at school will be negated. A more recent publication Rising 44 Battle for Warsaw gives a full background history which will answer your queries fully. It is a sad fact that the Brits and Americans were naive and trusting Stalin, whereas the Poles were adamant (rightfully) that they all signing a Treaty with him would be breached. Americans provided the Russian Army with arms which were then used against the Poles. Two thirds of Poland had been taken by 1941 and Stalin agreed with the Brits & Americans that Russia could keep that land after the war. Now if you call that fighting for Poland................

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Stirring again!! It was the mind set of the Germans that made diplomacy impossible. A quick reference to newspapers from 1933 to the outbreak of war will give you the answers. Which propaganda were you brought up on?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Do you really believe Hitler was making a peace offering to the Brits in 1940? You're not referring to dear old Rudolph Hess who crashed in Scotland? The name speaks for itself.

Britain made all sorts of promises which Poles feel had they been committed to action three months before the outbreak of WW2 - so that's the gripe. Not to mention the fact Poles were not allowed to be armed. It was cavalry against tanks.

As for the Ukrainians (Ruthenians) Yes it was disgraceful how the underground army killed all those Ukrainians in Pawlokoma. Murderers and collaborators do not deserve to die that way and matters should have been left to the courts. How far back do you want to go?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Alas in the Eastern parts of Germany those tensions still exist.

You've forgotten the classification under which all Jews & Poles came under. Hardly a recipe for negotiation or diplomacy. Wakey wakey!

As for the Munich agreement - yes the Poles did take a chunk- but what happened in 1919?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Unfortunately it is true. I know a few that had the privilege.

As for Hungary & Poland history reads Germany forced them over Czechoslovakia.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Everyone's to blame in one way or another.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

They say it was an empty coffin at the Memorial Service organized by Hitler in Berlin in 1935.
Nevertheless, Pilsudzki though 'national hero' (he was Lithuanian) -accredited for Poland's independence - had signed a pact with Hilter over Pomerania, Wielkopolska and one other region (name escapes me for the mo) Pilsudzki had one thing in common with Hitler - camps.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Grammar!!!

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

gumishu
Nevertheless a camp.

Genealogy / Genealogy sites in Poland. Looking for Polish family of my great-grandparent. [13]

If you know the birth place, then your best bet is to approach the parish church in that area for baptisms, christenings & marriages.

Genealogy / Does anyone have any relatives who served with 1st Polish Armoured Division (Gen. Maczek) [310]

Yes he did have two daughter and I think both of them attended the Polish Boarding School in Northampton

KRZYZ ZASLUGI Z MIECZAMI
Means A Cross of Merit with Swords. There are three catagories. Gold, Silver & Bronze. A Polish wartime medal given to soldiers serving in the Polish army as well as members of the Resistance. Primarily given for courage and fortitude

Genealogy / Sykala family from Pruchnik [6]


If you have the exact date you could try looking through the church register in the area.

Genealogy / Leszczynski surname, Balcerzak [51]


Polonius3 would happen to know who is researching Rybinski (see Stefan Rybinski - 1910 thread)

would you happen to know anything about Rybinski research


rozylowicz.com/pdf-files/recollections_of_poland_2007_5.pdf]

Genealogy / Does anyone have any relatives who served with 1st Polish Armoured Division (Gen. Maczek) [310]


I'm reading Rising 44 Battle for Warsaw by Norman Davies. It's shaken me, even though I was brought up on a lot of information it provides. I recommend reading it. It gives a very accurate account.

Genealogy / Does anyone have any relatives who served with 1st Polish Armoured Division (Gen. Maczek) [310]


So did mine. Do you know whether he was in the first REgiment? If so he would have been stationed in Duns, Scotland - where a memorial was put up in memory all those who fought for the Division. For many years those who survived used to meet up in London - Either in the Polish Cultural Centre (POSK) or in Kensington around the corner from the Club "Polskie Ognisko" - Polish Hearth

SNIP
The reason Poles didn't participate in the victory parade, was because the Brits invited the Polish Government, but in the last minute they realised they hadn't been allies with that element (Lublin Committee) of Polish Government, so at the ninth hour those who had represented the Polish Government in Exile were hurriedly invited. It was felt however, that the parade for Poles would have meant a march for defeat and so no one took part.


It can be only one of three. Do keep searching. If you need any help with the Polish just copy and paste - Just make sure you keep out family names.

Genealogy / Looking for any and all information on Dabrowski/Dombrowski from Poland [87]


The site lists various locations and number of Dabrowski in each location.

Genealogy / ABOUT KUKULKA [42]


A W. Kukulka died in WW2 - His name is on Roll of Honour in Duns, Scotland where a memorial was erected in 1981 in memory of all those who served in 1st Armoured Division

Genealogy / Does anyone have any relatives who served with 1st Polish Armoured Division (Gen. Maczek) [310]

Photos from my collection:-
First attachment
From left to right
1st Armoured Division in prayer before battle somewhere in Europe
Scottish Polish Society Membership Card
The crew of this tank perished one hour before the end of the war.
Dijon
Memorial to those who served in 1st & 2nd Armoured Division erected in Dunsl
Souvenir card of 16th Brigade of 1st Armoured Division
Second & Third Attachment
Roll of Honour remembering those who were stationed in Duns of the 1st & 2nd Armoured Division and fell battlefields in France, Belgium, Holland & Germany

Fourth attachment.
Scotland - Sikorski present.
Can only load one at time, so the others will have to wait until someone else replies to this. will try to load on this one by editing.

Third one.
Fourth one
Here goes the fifth one. Sorry if it doesn't work.
I've attempted to the photo attachments individually hence the running commentary. I hope it's worked.


How did you attach your photos. I've just tried and failed abysmally

Genealogy / 1939 Krakow - what happened to the residents? [21]

I've hit a brick wall searching for relatives in USA. I have found my great uncle Stefan Rybinski entered New York in 1910. Thanks to people on this site I found documentation to show a Stephen lived and died in Baltimore. However, I'm not sure whether Stephen & Stefan are the one and same person. The year of birth is the same, and I have a date of birth for Stephen, but I need to trace Stefan's movements so I can be sure I am dealing with the one and same person. Any ideas?

Genealogy / Gorzelnik and/or Podgorczyk family tree [11]


There is no such place however there is a place called Wierzawice
Apolonia came in 1914 but can't read the place on the ship's manifest. A lot of the records are inaccurate in spelling partly due to the handwriting on the ship's manifest.

Genealogy / LISIA GORA - village in Poland [16]


Many thanks
I never realised it was that large.

Is anyone out there who comes from that village?

Genealogy / LISIA GORA - village in Poland [16]


Thanks for replying. I went there many moons ago.

I do speak Polish but am not sure whether I should use the language here.

How far is the village from Kraków and do you know the best way to approach it:- bus/train as I thinking of going there. (I am trying to check out some family history as one of my relatives emigrated to USA and now we are looking for descandants but need a date of birth)

Would you happen to know the best time to visit the church as I need to dig into the family history. I need to go back to 1883 so are there the records kept there or is there a central place for archives. I'd hate to go all that way, and then be turned away.

My father born in Lisia Gora came from a family of 14, but 7 of them were from my grandmother and the remainder from my stepgrandmother whom my grandfather married after my grandmother died. Some of them have died and I have lost touch with the remainder. My grandfather built the church gates, but I don't suppose they are still standing.

Pozdrowienia

Genealogy / Gorzelnik and/or Podgorczyk family tree [11]


Good luck. I hope it proves accurate.

Genealogy / Need some help with Bublitz family origin. [23]


Pomerania was autonomous in 1933 and possibly for that reason the name was Bublitz. The history of the region is very checkered. Sweden/Branderburg Prussia/Poland/German Empire/Germany and even France held sovereignity at different periods. From 1815 it came under Poland.

Genealogy / Need some help with Bublitz family origin. [23]


Unlike the place the surname most likely would have been Bublicz

Genealogy / Vintage Photos of Polish ancestors [144]


Have a surname?

Genealogy / Anna Gall, Vincent Kojs [6]


Have you looked on:- familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ancestorsearchresults.asp?last_name=Kojs

Law / How can I get Polish citizenship after been married to a Polish spouse [75]


A friendly tip: Get your marriage Brazilian marriage registered in Poland. This is done either through the Polish Embassy in Brazil or through the authorities in Poland.

Genealogy / Family Name UNIATYCKI from Lwow [11]


A person by that name is listed in the Kresy Siberia Museum Memorial.