natasia
23 Nov 2012
UK, Ireland / English/British rudeness - what do Polish people think about it? [168]
I'm sure you do ; )
(b) I always get a smile and a "thanks"
I'm sure you do ; )
natasia
25 Nov 2012
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]
Sperm are not a whole life. They are just a catalyst, and provide half the person. So, before they have met the egg they are just an ingredient, in the same way that the egg is.
When they come together and fertilisation occurs, at that moment they cease to be separate ingredients and become a real living whole being who is at the very start of their human existence as a unique entity.
I just don't understand what is so hard to get about that, and how anybody could argue otherwise. Call me stupid.
(and thank you, p3, by the way, for not thinking what I said rubbish : )
I quite agree with you. Don't forget you're creating sperm daily and that sperm will die.
Sperm are not a whole life. They are just a catalyst, and provide half the person. So, before they have met the egg they are just an ingredient, in the same way that the egg is.
When they come together and fertilisation occurs, at that moment they cease to be separate ingredients and become a real living whole being who is at the very start of their human existence as a unique entity.
I just don't understand what is so hard to get about that, and how anybody could argue otherwise. Call me stupid.
(and thank you, p3, by the way, for not thinking what I said rubbish : )
natasia
26 Nov 2012
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]
The thing about the morning after pill is that you have no way of knowing whether fertilisation has occurred. With abortion, you know it has occurred. That is a big difference.
However, yes, I agree, the morning after pill could constitute termination of a life.
I'm uncomfortable about the morning after pill, precisely because you don't know whether you are terminating a life or not. I don't like it and personally wouldn't want to take it. However, it doesn't feel as clearly wrong as an abortion, because you don't know if you're pregnant or not. Which in itself is completely unsatisfactory.
The point about abortion is that it is the knowing decision to terminate a life. The morning after pill is more of an 'erm - ok - just in case I'd better make sure that if I have created a life, it can't develop into a stable pregnancy'. But that is still not OK.
It is all horrible, and should all be avoided. That is what I will tell my daughter.
The thing about the morning after pill is that you have no way of knowing whether fertilisation has occurred. With abortion, you know it has occurred. That is a big difference.
However, yes, I agree, the morning after pill could constitute termination of a life.
I'm uncomfortable about the morning after pill, precisely because you don't know whether you are terminating a life or not. I don't like it and personally wouldn't want to take it. However, it doesn't feel as clearly wrong as an abortion, because you don't know if you're pregnant or not. Which in itself is completely unsatisfactory.
The point about abortion is that it is the knowing decision to terminate a life. The morning after pill is more of an 'erm - ok - just in case I'd better make sure that if I have created a life, it can't develop into a stable pregnancy'. But that is still not OK.
It is all horrible, and should all be avoided. That is what I will tell my daughter.
natasia
29 Nov 2012
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]
Yes ... fertilisation occurs usually in the fallopian tube ... the fertilised egg moves down into the main body of the uterus, and implants ... the morning after pill makes the uterine lining unreceptive, so the fertilised egg can't implant, so dies ...
Really, natasia? Do you even know how things you write about work?
Yes ... fertilisation occurs usually in the fallopian tube ... the fertilised egg moves down into the main body of the uterus, and implants ... the morning after pill makes the uterine lining unreceptive, so the fertilised egg can't implant, so dies ...
natasia
30 Nov 2012
Love / Are there any swingers club in Poland? [52]
and every guy is circumcised? ; )
Yes, there are. There are swingers' nights in Warsaw.
and every guy is circumcised? ; )
natasia
2 Dec 2012
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]
But if fertilisation has occurred, that is when the unique fusion of elements have come together - that is the point of creation of life. Sperm swimming hopefully along on their own do not constitute a life. An egg waiting and hoping is nothing until it gets the vital ingredient of the other half. Ask all the people trying to conceive about that ...
I know I keep saying this, but 6-7 days after conception, or even earlier, if one is listening, one is aware one is pregnant - one is aware that 'something' has happened. However minuscule that life, it is there, in all its uniqueness.
Think of it like this. I get a pen. I have a blank piece of paper. My pen is hovering over the paper, but the paper is still blank. Then I draw a tiny dot. That dot is there, whatever anyone says. I can make it bigger, or I can try to rub it out - but it is still an event and an existence.
Personally I think discussion about 'the point at which abortion is ok' is silly - it isn't ok at any point, because the ease of doing it, and the smallness/earliness of stage of development shouldn't come into it - actually quite the opposite - we should be more protective of life in its very early stages.
And it gets back to the same old thing ... justifying getting rid of an inconvenient life by getting rid of it quick when it is tiny and you can pretend it barely exists anyhow.
I can't see how that is morally defensible, and never will. And that is not a taught religious opinion - that is gut instinct.
It seems to me that most of the disagreement centers around when potential life can be morally stopped.
But if fertilisation has occurred, that is when the unique fusion of elements have come together - that is the point of creation of life. Sperm swimming hopefully along on their own do not constitute a life. An egg waiting and hoping is nothing until it gets the vital ingredient of the other half. Ask all the people trying to conceive about that ...
I know I keep saying this, but 6-7 days after conception, or even earlier, if one is listening, one is aware one is pregnant - one is aware that 'something' has happened. However minuscule that life, it is there, in all its uniqueness.
Think of it like this. I get a pen. I have a blank piece of paper. My pen is hovering over the paper, but the paper is still blank. Then I draw a tiny dot. That dot is there, whatever anyone says. I can make it bigger, or I can try to rub it out - but it is still an event and an existence.
Personally I think discussion about 'the point at which abortion is ok' is silly - it isn't ok at any point, because the ease of doing it, and the smallness/earliness of stage of development shouldn't come into it - actually quite the opposite - we should be more protective of life in its very early stages.
And it gets back to the same old thing ... justifying getting rid of an inconvenient life by getting rid of it quick when it is tiny and you can pretend it barely exists anyhow.
I can't see how that is morally defensible, and never will. And that is not a taught religious opinion - that is gut instinct.
natasia
2 Dec 2012
Polonia / Is it possible to meet a Polish female in Dubai? I'm looking for fun. [45]
They are generally slim and scrub up well, and they are good at washing up and ironing?
My goodness guys, why u need a polish woman that much? Many Asian guys looking for one. What's the secret?
They are generally slim and scrub up well, and they are good at washing up and ironing?
natasia
7 Dec 2012
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]
I agree, and I think that is what people are most concerned about here. Poland is a Catholic country, ostensibly has a morality largely dictated by the Church, and this morality has been and will be translated into legislation. If you want to change that, change the religion of the country (good luck ; ).
Yes. That is the other issue. Someone else's life as well as the mother's is at risk here.
That the RCC comes down on the side of protecting that life doesn't seem a bad attitude of theirs, I have to say.
There should, of course, be a massive campaign of support for pregnant mothers in difficult situations, and also of trying to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
Absolutely agree, and this is the BIG POINT:
ABORTION = INCOME FOR SOMEONE.
In a 'liberal' world, abortion is 'good', and that also means that in the capitalist world that often comes with liberalism, someone sees a business opportunity.
So, what do you want?
1. A religious country where the unborn child is protected, and mothers have to do as they're told, even though that means some hardship for the mother in some cases, although it usually turns out ok because nobody ever regrets having a child in the end,
OR
2. A capitalist, liberal country where there is total freedom to do what you like with the unborn child, with the added benefit of creating a great business opportunity for someone who can use the liberal banner to say that the 'service' they offer is a vital human right of the innocent female?
What you actually have is a religious country shot through with capitalism and liberalism. Tricky.
What this is really about is the Roman Catholic Church legislating morality.
I agree, and I think that is what people are most concerned about here. Poland is a Catholic country, ostensibly has a morality largely dictated by the Church, and this morality has been and will be translated into legislation. If you want to change that, change the religion of the country (good luck ; ).
women can self-mutilate or do anything else to her own body, as long as it does not effect the health and wellbeing of the innocent baby
Yes. That is the other issue. Someone else's life as well as the mother's is at risk here.
That the RCC comes down on the side of protecting that life doesn't seem a bad attitude of theirs, I have to say.
There should, of course, be a massive campaign of support for pregnant mothers in difficult situations, and also of trying to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
Life imprisonment is too lenient a penalty for sharks of the abortion industry.
Absolutely agree, and this is the BIG POINT:
ABORTION = INCOME FOR SOMEONE.
In a 'liberal' world, abortion is 'good', and that also means that in the capitalist world that often comes with liberalism, someone sees a business opportunity.
So, what do you want?
1. A religious country where the unborn child is protected, and mothers have to do as they're told, even though that means some hardship for the mother in some cases, although it usually turns out ok because nobody ever regrets having a child in the end,
OR
2. A capitalist, liberal country where there is total freedom to do what you like with the unborn child, with the added benefit of creating a great business opportunity for someone who can use the liberal banner to say that the 'service' they offer is a vital human right of the innocent female?
What you actually have is a religious country shot through with capitalism and liberalism. Tricky.
natasia
20 Dec 2012
Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]
Actually you are quite right - Greeks also never say sorry, and rarely tell the truth, apart from when discussing their emotions. As for Indians, their every word is carefully considered and calibrated to achieve what they want - they don't even begin with the truth and diverge from it, and their 'sorries' are certainly rare, and suspect.
Just generalising there, of course.
In my case, the Indians and Greeks come to mind............................Poles, for sure, can be extremely annoying in this regard but they are not the sole purveyors of obstinance :)
Actually you are quite right - Greeks also never say sorry, and rarely tell the truth, apart from when discussing their emotions. As for Indians, their every word is carefully considered and calibrated to achieve what they want - they don't even begin with the truth and diverge from it, and their 'sorries' are certainly rare, and suspect.
Just generalising there, of course.
natasia
11 Jan 2013
Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]
erm, not quite my taste. He is intense, but looks like his elbows might be a bit spikey.
I prefer the slightly more elastic type, with some evidence of musculature. I don't mind a small paunch, as it is comfortable for resting the head. I like a man of some physical substance - not just intellectual/energy.
(And of course this thread has absolutely nothing to do with my subjective preferences, but still : )
Show us some more pictures and I will be more than happy to contribute my thruppence worth.
erm, not quite my taste. He is intense, but looks like his elbows might be a bit spikey.
I prefer the slightly more elastic type, with some evidence of musculature. I don't mind a small paunch, as it is comfortable for resting the head. I like a man of some physical substance - not just intellectual/energy.
(And of course this thread has absolutely nothing to do with my subjective preferences, but still : )
Show us some more pictures and I will be more than happy to contribute my thruppence worth.
natasia
11 Jan 2013
Real Estate / Home builders in Poland? [16]
Stig, you don't need to speak Polish - I am the voice for a great team of Polish builders. Just say the word if you want us to help.
Stig, you don't need to speak Polish - I am the voice for a great team of Polish builders. Just say the word if you want us to help.
natasia
17 Jan 2013
Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]
Ok, I have an almost-embarrassing predilection for Polish men, but somehow here people have managed to find the few that I don't find particularly attractive ... the rest of the nation is hot, though ; )
Ok, I have an almost-embarrassing predilection for Polish men, but somehow here people have managed to find the few that I don't find particularly attractive ... the rest of the nation is hot, though ; )
natasia
29 Jan 2013
Language / POLISH 18 - 30 years old know MUCH BETTER ENGLISH language than their own native language! [102]
I am interested in your definition of 'better English'. Whatever a native speaker says is correct in the sense that it is a natural expression of the mother tongue. However good the 'grammar' of a non-native speaker, and however perfect their turns of phrase, there will always be the odd moment of unnatural language which will give them away as non-native speakers. So, in this sense, they can never be 'better' than a native speaker.
It depends what you are judging it on.
Personally I think a language is by definition fluid, and its life lies in the hands of its users ... I delight in variation and, even in some cases, in what some might call bastardisation of a language, because this is the language being manipulated and fully 'used' by its speakers.
What grates on my ear is the artificiality of non-native usage, but of course I also sound artificial, and my language acquired, in my non-native languages. So I give, as well as taking.
though many do speak better English than the native speakers of English.
I am interested in your definition of 'better English'. Whatever a native speaker says is correct in the sense that it is a natural expression of the mother tongue. However good the 'grammar' of a non-native speaker, and however perfect their turns of phrase, there will always be the odd moment of unnatural language which will give them away as non-native speakers. So, in this sense, they can never be 'better' than a native speaker.
It depends what you are judging it on.
Personally I think a language is by definition fluid, and its life lies in the hands of its users ... I delight in variation and, even in some cases, in what some might call bastardisation of a language, because this is the language being manipulated and fully 'used' by its speakers.
What grates on my ear is the artificiality of non-native usage, but of course I also sound artificial, and my language acquired, in my non-native languages. So I give, as well as taking.