News / Does it seem to you that Russia loves Poland now? [35]


Well... since the basic strategy has remained the same since mr.Poo was enthroned, you can't really expect anything new from the Russian government at that point. Putin is a vindictive and a small man (both physically and spiritually) who has no respect towards people whatsoever, be one a Pole or a Russian. The only thing that has recently offered a little hope was that Medvedev as a man of naturally higher moral standards than those of Putin could propose a different strategy. We'll see...

To my great misfortune I should agree with the above point that in putin's Russia money and the force are the only two motive powers of the regime. Human is nothing here.

As for the Russians ourselves... well I'm sure that the vast majority has at the very least never been hostile towards Poles. On a personal level I don't know of any occasion when a Russian and a Pole didn't get along well. The only my worry was that the younger generation of Russians simply don't know much about Poland and don't show the interest to learn anything thereof. Somewhat of a vicious circle. However since more and more people can afford to travel abroad, choose philological specialization in unis or even simply use the Internet the interest gets stirred. Tragic events in Smolensk has played a large part too.

Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]

Not racially Caucasian PP but geographically. Here's what I mean.

Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]

Probably the first thread where I fully agree with Nat and sympathize with him being treated so unfair.
Nonsense, different people prefer different types. If you see something as insecurity or babyhood another gal may see that as sensitiveness and zest for life. I believe you need to date a Muslim Caucasian to feel that difference...

As for being selective... well how many men here do you think would like to date you considering all you've already said?

Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]


I don't think such a judgment is relevant. Hungary was a pawn in the battle of giants: no matter who they allied with as long as they could change nothing. Romanians collaborated with Nazis too... did they "hurt" you as much as the SU did? They didn't or to be precise they didn't impact you as much as the SU did, cause they weren't those who shared the pie either.

The question is would Poland have been given any independence (even that under the nazi-puppet regime), if the Soviets lost the war?

As for the topic I believe it's the matter of personal opinion. One could find similarities in any nation depending on one's personal attitude towards a nation.

History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

How about people?..

News / Chechen Congress in Poland, Russia frowns [90]


Witnessed that? Come to Russia and testify in court... we'll imprison these bastards! The Russian people will owe you.

Life / Polish are some of the best educated in the world [35]


Got your point but don't you think that freedom of thought doesn't guarantee a higher educational level? Even then one should keep in mind that freedom particularly intellectual is a very subjective concept. I for one can't say that people have become significantly more free since the commies. It's a tool of impact upon people's minds that is altered.

If you want I can share some of my observations on the Russian society... People here have become more rude (in my mind it's somewhat of "less intellectual"), less educated in terms of their own language and general outlook, more educated in terms of foreign languages. Can't tell anything for certain about the exact sciences.

Yes, people have more sources to sip knowledge at, but a few takes advantage of this.



Ta det lugnt. :) Jag tror att det var inget mer än hennes egna åsikt som alla har rätt på.

Food / Good way for crunchy fish crisps [4]


Very similar. Karasiki v smetane.
ru.geniuscook.com/bljuda-iz-moreproduktov-i-ryby/karasi-zapechjonnye-v-smetane

It's a popular dish in Russia. :)

Food / Good way for crunchy fish crisps [4]

I suggest that you cook this way a baby-crucian. Delicious!

UK, Ireland / Advantages of living in Poland as opposed to the UK. [126]

I suspect better food and Slavic thinking (which you're not expected to appreciate unless you're Slavic). Oh... and beautiful women if that matters.

News / WHY DOES POLAND BUY GAS FROM RUSSIA? [105]



Well, if your creation is also a Soviet fault I'm ready to agree that nation had no rights to exist...

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Not you Seanus that must have been your alter ego:


What in the world makes you feel that "we" don't like gays?


I was just coming up with an example from the animal world as a respond to the message.


Well... are you being serious right now? Is it that hard to draw the proper conclusion from the text? If some people are gays does that mean that all people are gays?


it's as hilarious as when some office managers claim being gay is not an illness.


Where's Sean with his "some hate some don't"? yet I don't know what it has to do with what trener has said. Really in this thread I see only one type of hatred: it's when those who claim being homosexual is not an illness hate those who just say "well... let's see... things are a bit more complicated than that".

Yes from my personal point of view being gay is an illness and I argue in that favour. My arguments seem ridiculous to you but... Bozhe moy... look at yours guys....

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Harry, yesterday I listened to your buddy Vitia Suvorov on radio "Echo Moskvi". Please when you meet him next time tell him he's "peace-door-ball". Very easy to remember for an English speaker and makes sense in Russian. This is the word that we use here to describe those who use words lightly. Same goes for you as far as I can see...


That's accurately what you did.
How're we going to treat you?


I think you did but you didn't draw right conclusion out of it. This that you used as an argument to prove homosexuality "biologically normal" proves only the fact of its existence in the animal world. No one here argues that. But that doesn't mean it's not an illness? Have you ever kept fowls? At times hens got crazy and fully take rooster's functions upon themselves. They start to crow and feather other hens. Such hens go straight to soup as they lose their natural functions.


Blokes love to kiss too. However not every bloke wants to be kissed by another.


There's no problem with it as long as it doesn't hurt or involve others.

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


So you don't see Tourette's as a decease, right? :)


Some people go to doctor (at least they're trying to find one) for being homosexual. However I'll tell you why...
Firstly, because some interest group of people decided that it wouldn't be an illness. That's all I can tell you on that and I don't think anyone here can add smth to it. The latter is the consequence of the first: Homosexuals are convinced it's normal or if they're not convinced they can't get/don't know where to get a proper treatment.


Sean I appreciate your play of words but it's actually me who gave to the "health" broader ambit (thanks for the new vocabulary) than you had given a message ago. I said that "poor health" might not be that at a first glance yet could lead to death and maybe not of individual but of a people.


Sean I see you stubbornly circumlocutionizing. Those who are flamboyant probably the worst type of gays since many of them are in fact not ones, but this is their "lifestyle" which gave them certain benefits. Of course you know that there are young boys who are not gays but they sell their a$$es to old fags to earn money. Take off your pink glasses, Sean they do exist and they are creatures of this flamboyant advertisement of gay's lifestyle.

You see these part of their life just because it strikes one's eye by its rebellious nature. Whereas many homosexuals don't want that and probably suffer from the decease.


You're right in that nothing can be said now for sure. I can't tell for ex that the growth of homosexuality (which is now allegedly related to the fact that those who had to hide now can reveal themselves) will continue in the future but unlike you I don't see any hypothetical "facts" for all of your optimistic statements either, particularly considering that significant portion of the medical society still think it's a decease.

Sean you're well-known for your might to play devil's advocate. What does prevent you now see from a different point on that problem, I wonder? You seem to turn a blind eye on all of my examples.

Which facts?


Don't they know it? How do you feel? :)


"Virtually all" countries at different times gave fiat for instance to brown and red decease, the same's happening today under different name. Money rules this world not the majority of people. You know it.


Ivan Petrovic from asylum thinks he's Napoleon and his roommate Boleslav Adamovic thinks he's Jozef Pilsudski...
Sean you could have started with smth real. This doesn't have legs to stand on.

Kravcovu:


Yes, sir. :) I didn't say it brought stresses of their relatives to nought. But FYI one of its signs is apathy. Thinking processes are collapsing and patient stop to worry, slowly but surely turning to a "vegetable". Yes that's a nightmare for relatives but it can technically eliminate problems with blood pressure if there had been any before the decease.

Sean:


Unfortunately you brought these debates to a very-very low level which makes me wonder who're using your account. "We" don't like gays. Who "we"? The Russians? Me? I do not have any negative feelings about homosexual. But homosexuals are not themselves...

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Sorry but this isn't an explanation. Illness can be mental and it doesn't necessarily mean one's gonna be in poor health. Tourette's decease? Or Alzheimer's dementia which on its early stages may even prolong life as it brings stresses to nought. Both mentioned can't be successfully cured nowadays, yet no one dares to call it "this is just their lifestyle".

Population in Russia is now declining, even though 95% (I don't know the exact figures this is just my assumption) of population in procreative age is straight. Imagine that 50% of them will be homosexual? The people in such a poor conditions is terminally ill, doomed to death.

And you're still trying not to call a spade a spade?..
If you still have anything to say, you're welcome, Sean...

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Then it must be really easy for you to explain why. I'm all ears. :)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Sean, how about those homosexuals who seek for treatment and don't get one because it's not invented (and won't be since it doesn't go as "illness")?

You're right we have no right to intervene but Poultry is right they have no right to intervene either imposing their lifestyle.

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Because they would love to become heterosexual, just like you.

History / Zadvir'ya - Polish Thermopiles commemorated [15]

Nat, may I play your role at least once? :) Some kind of Russian Nathan? Huh?! Just keeping in mind how honorably you gave a translation of some Russian poster. :)

I found really amusing Ukrainian nazi's (a certain "Bandera") comments of about your ilk yet with lower manners in the link you gave us.

English:


Now a question... Don't you understand how lonely you are?


BB that's about the same as to learn about the world via "Prawda" in the SU.

History / Was there sex in Poland during communist regime? [60]

Even on PF there're some people who can be called that only by a stretch of imagination, even though they "discuss" topics. Also some topics are not worth being discuss.

As for your topic... I just make it complete. No offense.

History / Zadvir'ya - Polish Thermopiles commemorated [15]

This article is a lie, isn't it? ;)
polemika.com.ua/news-26848.html

History / Was there sex in Poland during communist regime? [60]

Nathan, since you live in your tiny world which is no more than a chapter of delusions I'm not a snap surprised with your views (let's put it mildly) you involuntarily spread. I'm sure you won't mind if I add my couple kopeeks. She said "We've got no sex in the USSR, we've got LOVE".

IMHO, for healthy people sex or love is a thing to make (do), not to discuss.

News / Poland sends firefighters to help Russia [67]


I've foreseen that and yesterday before leaving for Moscow bought them in Montenegro. It's not that bad here though... I expected something similar to what we experienced two weeks ago.

News / Poland sends firefighters to help Russia [67]

I fled from Moscow fires a couple weeks ago. When we sat at Domodedovo airport there were so much smoke that my eyes were tingling.

Thanks for the help Poles!

History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]


I perfectly know what you imply but it's a way more correct to say that Russia hadn't developed yet into the latter structure (hadn't spread eastwards that much). The best I can offer you is that Ukrainians shared history with whom we know now as the Russians but you monopolizing it is just another new-Ukrainian fairy-tale and history revisionism. :)

Love / WILDROVERS FIVE YEARS IN POLAND....come to an end...! [132]

I've been busy lately and not really in the mood to post/convince anybody.
However here I've fallen into temptation of posting something. Looks like you friend ran into a really decent Russian woman. My congrats! :) Drop a line when you're in Moscow and of course good luck! How did you earn your living in Poland? Native speakers of English have good chances to get a seemly job in Moscow. You won't starve for sure...

Nat, you can't imagine what a big pleasure for me to see zapadny ukrainec being kind (even obliquely) toward a Russian woman. :)

News / The chances for Warsaw to become capital of eventual Slavic confederation? [183]


I haven't. I was too young. My parents did, it was in the USSR.


Certain people make decisions isn't it right. What if the crucial decision was made by a Jew or by a Ukrainian (God forbid)? I see here an obsessive urge to


Have I ever played that? Actually I'm trying to drag you to the point where you admit that if the Russians are sh!t then the Ukranians is the same sh!t (even more stinky if judge by your diaspora on PF). So far you have been only trying to shift all the blame upon us. But in fact you have been as good as any Russians at intrigues, executions and putting your own and Russian people into disaster. The Ukrainians were as well as the Russians equal part of the system. Many of your sons whether you want it or not were indispensable part of the system and considered it a good way to their own prosper. Besides your theory of "the Russians" is so ridiculous that it's hard to comment. It doesn't have legs to stand on. Could you please give me your criteria of who are the Russians? From your reasoning the only conclusion can be drawn that it's a mysterious group of people of different nationalities (including Ukrainians) who are hounded by the idea of humiliating all nations of the USSR (including Russians). So maybe Ukrainians are the seat of the trouble? :) What do you think? I'm just following your logic...

No of course you're absolutely fine to see only the Russian problems shutting your eyes at Ukrainian ones or of anybody else as well as everyone has a right to be stupid. The only thing that sounds really irritating is when you're trying to speak for all of Ukrainians or claim to have monopoly for the truth. At the mean time you demonstrate all the personal traits you blame the Russians for: arrogance, total reluctance to admit guilt, permanent will to pass the buck, Freudian dreams to seize lands.


It wouldn't. The fact that we have them is a mixed blessing thing. It wouldn't be that big, that's for sure. Because it's simply not possible to hold that much inefficient land within one country. 75-80% of our lands are loss-making, they are not a good place to live in. Ukraine is, but you nevertheless contrive to live there as if there is permafrost.


I assure you, you have them too even in your beloved Georgia. Oh... and please spare us your ridiculous statement of how innocent Georgia run by a mentally-deceased is being attacked by Russians. What do you think about Georgians killing innocent people in South Ossetia? Or are they the Russians too and that's absolutely fine to kill a kacap? :)


Nat, this is too low even by your standards. :) How could you fit that much lie and nonsense into that small piece of text? Did you read Georgian literature in Georgian? Why should I? People should have a choice and they had it. There was a subject as "a Native tongue" at school and people could learn it. In my school in the USSR I could have learnt Ukrainian if I'd had a will too. Now one can't unless it's a Ukrainian school.

In the US people are expected to fill out documents in English even though it's a very multicultural country, in the US they won't be able to pronounce your first name properly to say nothing of the last one. All of them are Americans whatever their national background is.

The recent film I watched was "Mimino"... a good example of pushing forward Georgian and Armenian culture. The USSR was internationalistic. :) At Soviet times in "Vremia" people spoke Ukrainian and Belorussian being translated either with subtitles or verbally. Many people were happy... Some weren't of course just like everywhere.

As for the backward... what is backward? What do you mean by backward? A life of an individual means nothing? Yes I agree with you... I would even say that value of life has even dropped down in Russia and in the former USSR since the collapse of the SU. I wish it was valued more and I strive for it. But I wonder how you're going to do that living some 70-80 years back, full of barbaric hatred, praising hardcore nationalist as a national hero? :) They don't need you with that sh!t anywhere in Europe even if you're a source of extremely cheap labour. They are not fools they perfectly understand bearing in mind French example that people who can't integrate sooner or later will cause problems. Russian culture has never been backward and many nationalities in Russia contributed to its resulting image. Really Nat you sometimes appall me that much with your pearls that words fail me.

Life / POLISH YOUTH compared to the youth in other Western countries? [57]


Yes, I'm Russian. :)


Do you meet many let's say English people on forums for Poles? Do they always speak Polish (other than that they have a business in your country or soulmate)?


Well... you're perhaps a pleasant exception. I don't want to speak for Poland but in Russia roughly 95% of all movies shown are from the US. That's a willy-nilly westernization.


Sorry for confusion... :) people in the US usually say "coke", I don't remember anybody saying it coca-cola. I meant "coca-cola".


Agreed. That was probably not the best example since we're still on leading position in its production. However when it comes to many different goods it's true to say that Slavs are a way more acquainted with Western World than the other way round.

News / The chances for Warsaw to become capital of eventual Slavic confederation? [183]


Which way, genius?


Same question... how would they earn their living? Do you seriously want Kosovo#2 close by?

Life / POLISH YOUTH compared to the youth in other Western countries? [57]


What language are we a Polish lady and a Russian speaking right now?
What movies have you seen lately? Name them honestly... :)
You know what coke is, don't you? Do you think an average American knows what Zubrowka or Russian Kvas is? I don't think so...

Many of Slavs (quite ironically being americanophobes at the same time) use more American than Slavic things in a daily life.
This is what "westernization" is from my perspective.
One could say "you're free to choose... it's democratic..." but in fact it's not. When money tells you what to do, define your choice and tastes via media there's nothing democratic about it.


Shwedi should preserve their culture too. There are probably no nations in Europe which adopted American culture more than Norden in general.