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Lukasz   
7 Sep 2007
Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

:) I think that only people with the roots coming from Mazovia peasants are pure Polish...

It is quite funy but in my opinion it is not serious talking about nationalities like Bielarusian or Lituanian in XVI century,

In the beginning of XX century a lot of people form Polesie (part of todays Bielarus and Ukraine) asked about nationality answered "we are form here" I think that during XVI century they would answer the same.

But to show how multicultural our country was:

narodowsci

Poles: 65,5 %
Ukrainians 16%
Jews 9,4 %
Bielarusians 5,5 % ("we are from here" are added here as well about 1,5%)
Germans 2,6 %
Others 1%

what you should know, on east Poles and Jews lived in towns and Others in vilages (thats why there are not to green on the map ;) )

What can be intersting, Poles are still wining local elections in the grounds surrounding Wilno (in Wilno town we are minority because most of them were expeled from there after the war to towns like Wroclaw or Szczecin)

I m Pole but my mothers name is definetely lithuenian, when I asked my grandmother about her nationality she answered me that Polish, and that in the past Lituenia was just like Texas in USA now, and Poland was something like other state in USA. And being Pole was only problem of choice, if you wanted to be Pole you could be one ;) So Mickiewicz "writting Lithuania my fatherland", could mean something like singing in USA "my lovely Arizona" With lithuanians we had the same government, the same culture, there there were no anty Polish rebels ... What can be interesting, now in Lithuania there is group of people calling themselfs "Zmudzini" and they dont consider themselves Lithuanians, few years ago they would answer they are Lithuanians form region "Zmudz"

We should notice that in our history we have a lot of great people coming to our country and choicing to be Pole just because it was good place to live. It was good place to live because we were tolerant, in comparison to other countries we were giving a lot of freedom and it worked quite good.

Suddenly after II WW we were expeled by Red Army form eastern lands (in some regions we could stay) to terytories form where Germans were expeled. And now we live in country with 96,7% of native Poles. But we dont need to learn how to live together with other nations, we just have some good expirences.
Lukasz   
24 Sep 2007
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

ght hair, blue/green eyes maybe from the North (and the West with Germany), Tatars came from the South ? South East or East ?...etc.

interesting theory ;))) Ukrainias and Russians are blond too. Tatars were living in their own societies mostly on teretories of todys Bielarsus and Ukraine and were musilm so that was problem to mix (but maybe there is influence) I think that there is a lot of peole mixed with Germans Lithuenians Russians Ukrainians Bielarusians, Jews. As Lithuenians Germans(Merkel 25% Pole) Russians (it is considered that 10% of ST Petersburg citizens has Polish origin) Ukrainians, Belarusians have Polish origin, as well. Jews for mixing with Poles were expiled form their society so most of this mix is in Poland. Wars with Turkey were mostly on the teritories of todays Ukraina
Lukasz   
28 Sep 2007
Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [141]

hope so ;)And what about Protestants in Poland ? I know there are just a few of them, but does someone know how many are they ?...

we have about 150 000 of protestants

1997-2001 we had PM who was Lutheran.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Buzek
Lukasz   
28 Sep 2007
Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [141]

definately not, in the past all protestants refugies were coming to Poland (during religous wars) and a lot of Poles were protestant as well , it was very close our nobels (szlachta) would convert Poland in to protestant country. I can writte mor about that if you want or create new subiect about religions in Poland and history.
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

So my ansestors fighted in 1863 near Suwalki. I know the story that after misfortune of up rise, Russians have taken all young man form family (6) to syberia, they decided to try to back to home and only one was succesfull and was back home. Rest of them died.

As to my family I m mix of Polish - Lithuenaian nobels and I m a litle bit (little little ;) ) duke, because I have blood of Radziwil family.
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

Do you mean some of your ancestors were from Crown and some from Lithuania?

Do you know what is Radziwł family ?

I know that my father is a litle bit radzwil, and my grandfather was always arguing with his cusine (he had surname Radziwil) what was better for Radziwł to do.(aguing about the past). But Radziwil isnt my main origin.

It is my coat of arms coming stright from my name and main tradition.

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Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

That is something new to such ignorant person as I. I thought Radziwil surname disappeared in 19 century because last men of this family didn't have sons.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radziwi%C5%82%C5%82

What is the name of this Coat of arms?

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubicz_(herb_szlachecki)
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

But I don't pay attention to Coat of arms because their reception is so dark in Lithuania.

glorious for me as a Pole
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

as I know my fathers familly came there (north east Poland) form Crakow region. but it was long long time ago ...
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

Wasn't that Great Duchy of Lithuania before 17 century? I write about Suwalki

I mentioned Suwalki because it was the nearest town on map, but my ansestors fortune was definately in Great Duchy of Lithuania
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

To be honest I cant tell much more than you can find yourself, I know stories about wars, and things like that but I cant descirbe you current situation there or situation in the past.
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]

thank you for information, now I m rather concentrated on researches about my famili fight in years 1945-52 ... there is new book about one of memberes of my family, but maybe in future I will do new researches, about more ancient history ;)

podziemiezbrojne.blox.pl/html/1310721,262146,21.html?330888
Lukasz   
29 Sep 2007
Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

I'm in small % Lithuanian, but it doesn't matter. My Lithuanian ancestors preferred to be Poles (in times when it was a problem), so I don't feel Lithuanian. You know It is hard to feel Lithuanian when you don't have any connections with their culture and some ancestors were Lithuanians in XVI century ... You should notice I'm a little bit Radziwil (Prince) and all European aristocracy were mixed so much with other European aristocracy, that I just don't know exact % of my blood and which part belongs to which country.

Most of all people with prince blood are mixed look on English aristocrats or French.

I like Lithuanians esp last time when they started cooperate with us in Russia case.
Lukasz   
10 Oct 2007
Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]

I Love my country because we have the most stylish and inteligent girls, who are really grate for us :)

I love this place because I like our archicecture, people and art.
Lukasz   
17 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

increase

oh yes we have increase of rasist agresion, just because the number of people of other races sharply increase. If there wasnyt any black in town and now there are some, it is logical that inrease is only one posibility just because there wasnt any poeple with other coulour of skin before.

and thicreas can look enormous in few years by 400% from 25 accidents to 100 ...

as to numbers as well as I know we had last year about 100 (38 mln people country) of this accidents and in western european countries there were thousends

axt.org.uk/antisem/countries/poland/poland.htm

and this article look like old aniti Polish propaganda

it isnt funy that author writtes about Polish anti-semits beffore the war, and latter he writte about nazist (without any word about germans) and Deadh camps on Polish soil ... so I find this article not showing the truth. What and sentences like "of course some Poles helped jews" is just example, the fact is that Poles saved the bigest amout of jews even for that there was death penalty, isnt showed here.

""Polish death camp(s)" and "Polish concentration camp(s)" are misleading terms that have appeared in the media in reference to World War II German concentration camps located in German-occupied Poland involved in The Holocaust. Poland was occupied by the Nazis from 1939 to 1945. The Polish government had no administration or political influence over captured territories during this period."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_death_camp

as to the true

Watch "Europa Europa" of Agnieszka Holland (Polish Jewish origin)

and "The Pianist" of Polanski (Polish Jewish origin)

situation of jews before the war, during the war and after the war ...
Lukasz   
17 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

yes yes ... but in all countries there are some racist and it is sure. But when we take for example small town where there no other nations/races, so the only posibility after coming some non -poles is that nothing is going to change or increase (single one accident is increase) .

We have in Poland (38 mln people) 100 racist accidents in whole year when we look in other EU countries stats it is nothing ...
Lukasz   
17 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

True but other EU countries are more ethnically diverse. Time will tell I suppose.

agree

that would be reported incidents which is probably very relevent given that a substantial percentage of poland's ethnic population probably doesnt speak the language very well and almost certainly doesnt want to go to the trouble of reporting attacks

agree ... as everywhere

but UK Holland the low countries sweeden and denmark help the most.

look on figures ... go on some jewish side and check which nation saved the bigest amout of jews during the war ... (UK wasnt under German nazi occpation but check figures of countries you mentioned)

.jalf the jews I meet are from or their parents from Poland I meet survivors . you have no idea what they went through.

so how they survived ... in German concetration camp ?? (average lenght of life 2 weeks) or were saved by Poles ? ask them how they survived ...

well, i absolutely agree with PAWEL M. i also think that polish antisemitism is one of the strongest stereotypes about poles. maybe it still exists among the generation of ww2 participants (for the reasons PAWEL M wrote about), but among people of my age (about 20) something as antisemitism doesnt exist.

100% true

at the end Americans and their point of view ... no comment. Now all Arabs are enemy, terrorist, wild people... who cares, we should just F*** them and their crazy ideas, all in all whole world hate them now (we are one of last nations who belive they have good intentions and it is mistake ...)

It is enougt to read who supported who in southern america in last 50 years, who was learning oficers of regimes how to torture people ... there is only one answer USA did it ... and they try to prove sth for somebody ... no comment
Lukasz   
17 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

We are humans too and If our lives are in danger, we think how to save our own families, not how to help Jews.

even this fact there were a lot of people who helped.

as to Polish citizens 3 milions Polish jews were killed by Germans and 3 milions of Polish (other religion) citizens were kiled by Germans too it gives about 6 mln people killed.

as to names it is interedting why Germans are called nazist ... Russian Soviets...

Poland this time was real hell.
Lukasz   
30 Oct 2007
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

When we look in to old books ;) Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland and so on are central european countries. Russians, Ukrainians and so on are eastern.

map of central europe and poland