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pierogi2000   
2 May 2013
History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

Hitler offered Poland deals and hoped for an alliance, much like the one he had with Hungary, Italy, Spain, Slovakia, Japan and countless others

At the time of Hitler's offer, Poland faced 3 options
A) Stay neutral. Not possible
B) Join Germany
C) Say no and rely on France & England

History has shown that Poland took the bloodiest route. But was it the right decision?

Considering how France and England did little to nothing following Germany's attack. Furthermore how Poland was yet again lied to during the War by it's Western allies which ultimately led to 40 years of Soviet control anyway, would have joining Hitler been any worse?

A German - Poland alliance would have taken over Russia, which Stalin feared. Adding Japan into the mix would have only strengthen an Eastern powerhouse.

Hindsight Pearl Harbor doesn't happen and neither would the need for invasion of France/England. Instead we would see a legitimate Western & Eastern Europe.

Ultimately, Polands ''foolish'' decision spared millions of Jewish lives. As an alliance would have meant every Jew in Central & Eastern Europe would have been sent to work/perish in the Russian gulags, now under German control.
pierogi2000   
6 May 2013
History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

Poland refused the demands and joined France, bound by the 1921 treaty, and England, bound to a hasty 1939 treaty, to resist German expansion.

It's shocking how I know you are correct and yet I can't find a single link to this on my American google. It's crazy. People rewriting history

You got anything at all to back that claim?

- What's more than nothing? Send in fighter planes, bomber, significant amount of supplies. Something, anything?

- The assumption is that Poland-Germany pact taking over Russia keeps Hitler from moving West. Pat Buchanan actually wrote some interesting stuff on the subject

buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068

"Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland's rescue.

But where is the evidence that Adolf Hitler, whose victims as of March 1939 were a fraction of Gen. Pinochet's, or Fidel Castro's, was out to conquer the world?

But if Hitler was out to conquer the world - Britain, Africa, the Middle East, the United States, Canada, South America, India, Asia, Australia - why did he spend three years building that hugely expensive Siegfried Line to protect Germany from France? Why did he start the war with no surface fleet, no troop transports and only 29 oceangoing submarines? How do you conquer the world with a navy that can't get out of the Baltic Sea?

If Hitler wanted the world, why did he not build strategic bombers, instead of two-engine Dorniers and Heinkels that could not even reach Britain from Germany?

Why did he let the British army go at Dunkirk?

Why did he offer the British peace, twice, after Poland fell, and again after France fell?

Why, when Paris fell, did Hitler not demand the French fleet, as the Allies demanded and got the Kaiser's fleet? Why did he not demand bases in French-controlled Syria to attack Suez? Why did he beg Benito Mussolini not to attack Greece?

Because Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps."
pierogi2000   
8 May 2013
History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

Russia defended itself fine. That's why I put an and between England/Poland .......and Russia/France.

So your argument tends to hint that Polska should have sided with it's neighbor not France and some country on the other side of Europe
pierogi2000   
8 May 2013
History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

Another point. Winners write the history:

Why isn't Stalin viewed in the same regard as Hitler when he killed more/everyone. He didn't even draw lines.

Why wasn't USA held accountable for dropping the 2 atomic bombs OR their death camps of 1.5 Million Germans who were starved to death?

If we had joined the Nazis. They win the War and the Holocaust is a little piece of history just like the Holodomor .
pierogi2000   
8 May 2013
History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

You think the USA comes to the rescue of the Soviets?

With Russia under his control and every country in the region except France. There is no point of Hitler going into West Europe. I think he stops at controlling the entire Central/East.
pierogi2000   
18 May 2013
History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

Hitler attacked the wrong side of Europe. He should have gone all out and the wipe the British out.

Hitler spared British forces numerous times in battle. In the end he wanted Britain (white brother) to join him.

Ultimately Poland was the domino. If Poles accept Hitler's offer, England/France/USA don't come to the rescue of Soviet and/or Jews. Hitler creates an empire in Central & Eastern/Soviet Europe.
pierogi2000   
30 Jul 2013
Love / Adultery- Is it ok for Polish women [41]

Yeah but "man is working hard to bring food to the table". In this scenario woman accepts stuff like

"I was working late tonight"
"Sorry, I was extra tired from work. Fell asleep"
"I went out with the guys to relax"
pierogi2000   
30 Jul 2013
Love / Adultery- Is it ok for Polish women [41]

Ok, but are the girls ok about adultery or not? Is it a big deal for polish girls?

Polish women are very strong and intelligent compared to others on the planet. My point was that they don't know. Do very poor and uneducated Polish women turn the other cheek and ignore the signs....sure it occurs.
pierogi2000   
10 Aug 2013
Work / What is life like in Poland for a student? [26]

Americans have very superficial and depth-less relationships with each other. Typical American conversation:
"Hey. How are you?"
"Great. How are you?"
"Great. Okay, see you later."

Discussing issues such as politics or even everyday struggles belongs behind closed doors in your own home with the windows closed shut and locked. Meaning most Americans want to live their life in ignorance to the world around them. The less they know about you and the world around them, the less they have to face reality. This is not the case in European countries and especially Central/Eastern European. It will take longer to be-friend people from these regions but the relationships are MUCH more worth while & rewarding.

Speaking Polish is crucial in Poland. If you do not, you will be looked at as a user and treated as an outsider. Poles have a deep recent history of being manipulated and controlled by outsiders so they have no desire to continue this. Hence why it remains a homogeneous nation. I do not encounter that many Polish immigrants living in Non-English speaking nations. Poles are viewed as hard working whites, so they are more accepted in Western nations. And it is true work is difficult to find etc, but the family members I have living in Poland that focused on school and worked hard, are doing well. It honestly depends on the individual and the amount of effort they put forth. My experience is that many Poles still have an unhealthy infatuation with the USA & UK. The relatives I had visit me in Southern California stated they love the area as a vacation spot but not somewhere they would want to live.

I spent time in Wroclaw the past couple months and I was impressed at how vibrant, expanding and yet not over run by immigrants the city is. It is truly a place I could see myself leaving the USA for (and plan to). Berlin, although offering me more money and bigger lifestyle, is at times too random, dirty/over run by immigrants and ultimately not a Polish city. My Deutsche needs much improvement if I plan to go that route. If you were born in Europe like myself, you have a large advantage. I know my University offers study abroad programs but not sure about Poland. I don't think I would recommend doing my degree in Poland, the education system is different and takes some getting use to. If you are American, you might find the learning curve to be quite hard at first. Europeans in college are better and more focused students, while Americans simply strive to get by while "living in the greatest nation in history of human kind"
pierogi2000   
24 Aug 2013
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

The older I get, the less connection I feel to the USA. I'm planning on following in the foot steps of my sister and moving back (Lived 20 years in the USA) to Europe. Maybe if the USA wasn't in free fall as a society and culture, this wouldn't be the case. But being white, having no family in the USA & not being wealthy, there is absolutely no reason to live here. I would not only be wasting my European passport but accepting a lesser quality of life.

My outlook changed roughly 8 years ago when I visited Germany for the first time. I realized most of the propaganda and nationalism I was spoon fed in American schools and media, was complete crap. I've seen first hand the improvement in Poland from 1992 to 2013 and I think Central Europe is currently the place to be. It's still relatively cheap, expanding, free but yet not over run by minorities & crime/lack of morals values. The more time I spend in Europe (3 trips in the past 7 years and considering next summer) the less I want to return to the USA. Two years ago I felt a slight bit of excitement when we touched down in Los Angeles but this summer even though I spent 3 months (Home sickness almost always kicks in) I was dreading the return. My excitement and sense of home has steadily declined as I've aged and spent more time overseas. At this point the USA feels like a small cesspool cut off from the rest of the world. It's difficult to connect with Americans that never left North America. They are fixated on the most trivial and simple aspects of life when I've experienced different cultures/lifestyles and challenged myself.

My background is growing up in a Polish spoken, taught Polish values and also moderately Catholicism home. Moved to the USA when I was 5 years old. Lived in "the finest city in America": San Diego.
pierogi2000   
24 Aug 2013
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

Polonius3

I often wonder what iis it about that cesspool that makes it so attractive to others (Europeans, Third Worlders) who are tripping over themselves to copy it ASAP.

American media is extremely influential, especially music, TV shows & movies. While Hollywood has (thankfully) lost some it's credibility and internet has allowed people access to International films, American music continues to be a driving force globally. Turn on European radio, go to a European bar etc, you will eventually hear American music.

Unless you've been to the USA, you aren't aware of the poverty. You can't comprehend how it's a nation built for cars not people. The food is extremely cheap because it's bombarded with products banned in Europe. Multiculturalism has created a society split up with countless groups not sharing any mutual goal but the one for $$$.

Since WW2, Poland has always had an unhealthy fascination with USA. While it's unrealistic to have expected the nation to take the path of Scandinavian nations, going the way of American capitalism has and will continue to have consequences. Walking into a "Hip Hop" club in Wroclaw, I was extremely troubled. I had a short conversation with the bouncer and he agreed with my opinion of wiggers. Foreingers only see the positives of the USA: the wealthy. Hell, many Americans only focus on this part of the nation.

It's understandable why 3rd World countries glamorize the USA. My father did the same in Poland (1980-1988). Overwhelming amount of Europeans that visited my family & I since the mid 1990's, viewed the USA as a great vacation spot but not somewhere they would want to live out their lives.
pierogi2000   
28 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Poles in America: How do you pronounce your Polish surname? [128]

I think some of them Americanize the pronunciation on purpose to save the embarrassment. The Polish language does sound pretty funny for Americans.

The English language sounds pretty funny for many Americans.
pierogi2000   
31 Aug 2013
Love / What do Polish girls think about dating Asian guys? [134]

"If the definition of racism is true that it is the act of recognizing differences among the races"

Where do they teach you people this load of crap. Have you ever watched the Olympics and it's celebration of cultural and racial differences?

People look "for specific cultures when we want to date someone" because some of us actually have proud and successful cultures that we would like to see continue. If you are an American, then you can't comprehend this notion.

Are you capable of seeing the difference between reproducing and raising a family with a fellow white European versus on the other hand going out of race. So that the children look nothing like native Europeans and are raised in a household with conflicting morals and values? Once a white European reproduces out of race, the family tree NEVER reverses. In broad terms, we are witnessing the steady genocide of blue/green eyed whites.
pierogi2000   
31 Aug 2013
History / Polish conscripts to German army [132]

Dh2z, if they did in fact switch to the winning side then that would make them just like most of Europe at the time. Not as honorable but more understanding than Poles who fought Hitler only to be manipulated by the Allies multiple times. "Stupid polak"