News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]

@Bobko
Fair point

I wouldn't be surprised if Tusk wants amoutor Russian agents to infiltrate the farmers, then after some time "capture" him after shadowed him and screened him and try to link farmers protest to a Russian Operation so as to try to make farmers lose backing.

There forces trying to trample down individual ownership of land and introducing food that they no less clue about for sure while making big bucks too...

Travel / What are the best countries to live in? [161]

@Novichok
A person being non-chalant and careless about meaning of words without being remotely amusing. Isn't fit to share any wisdoms, cause he has none.

Travel / What are the best countries to live in? [161]

@Novichok
That's incorrect
Phobia is a irrational fear

News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [455]

@Joker
I am mentally prepared to go to jail by this point, I don't care

News / What Polish diaspora need and expect from Poland, from Poles in Poland? [43]

@Poloniusz

It's due to poor education system, especially in certain western countries with a very dumbed down thought process. I remember my sister stopped talking about holocaust and ww2 when saying that she had family members experiencing concentration camps. They automatically assumed her to be Jewish, no matter how much she tried to explain things.

Can't cure stupid

Off-Topic / Will German Farmers change the EU policy? [45]


If that's the case, then not only will you continue to hear crickets on this very forum. But you might enjoy them as a meal today!

Enjoy the meal of political victory! Feel the sensation of winning arguments coming to your town today!

Try out the new Mc Cricket! Crick Bar and Ant leg today!

News / How will Poland be affected by WW3 which has now started [559]


Swedes were offered shares in Oil offshore platforms in return for shares in Volvo. They refused, I wouldn't bet on Swedish arrogance... It's worse then Germans. Finns are safer bet

News / How will Poland be affected by WW3 which has now started [559]

@Bratwurst Boy
No need to know ;p

News / How will Poland be affected by WW3 which has now started [559]


One important thing to learn about Poles is that Poles love to argue :)

Another thing is that Old Polish grandpas are Grumblers. Imagine old longbeards from Warhammer fantasy to Get the picture.

Best portrayed in «Gran Torino» with a Polish American «Grumbler»

Off-Topic / Will German Farmers change the EU policy? [45]

@Bratwurst Boy
If I got choice between wealthy farmers or wealthier politicians and/or wealthier businessmen.

I think I'll pick farmers every time, seems like a easy choice

News / How will Poland be affected by WW3 which has now started [559]


In my experience it seems like army recruiters want only those THEY deem fit to serve at moments notice. Without the thought that Army training is meant to prepare them for what their looking for.

If army needs men with more muscles, then perform more drills to have more of them -.-

Instead of complaining that the draftees have no muscles and reject them. Not everybody knows how to train muscles well, how long or what type of food to eat best even.

Life / Satanic and Heretical Manifestations in Poland [123]

@jon357
Cause when people want to do other people harm and think they are powerless and can only do it by being tricked by evil spirits. Imagine them having guns, rifles and ammo and a defenceless school to take it out on or a summer vecation island.

Most people don't do it cause they can't get away with it. We are writing about evil people here, of course it makes me sickening that they are becoming more and more open about it and fearless.

When I see people think that "accepting" evil practice is way to go. Then I know the quality of the society and which side it's on and why. Cause it's too sick to resist it

Life / Satanic and Heretical Manifestations in Poland [123]

There are pagan statues outside Cracow close to areas of a concentration camp. There are some occult spots and known places for Witches to gather during the night as well. I find it sickening

Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]


In making political turmoil and a disliked language by most of it's own country? I wouldn't excactly call THAT a success story

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]

@Novichok
Probably also

11. Never waited in que for a car
12. Wasn't punished or down-prioritised by your teachers for your background
13. Never put in jail
14. Didn't experience interrogations
15. Wasn't fired from work
16. Doesn't understand what a spoiled brat sounds like to other people

News / How will Poland be affected by WW3 which has now started [559]

@pawian
I am fairly certain you are thinking about Trumpstürm and not Volksturm pawian

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]

@jon357
Some countries see it as a norm, reward for their soldiers or part of rules of war. U.K has a very long lasting tradition of hierarchical army, every soldier knew their role and duties. The honour of one's regiment as well.

One of the most crucial parts of the British military, (land, air or sea) was discipline. Rape could easily have been seen as breach of discipline and seen as a danger for performing military operations at large or in general. Therefore seriously controlled.

Wehrmacht (especially irregular forces of the SS, like Dirlewanger) and Red Army had a much more savage and brutal warfare with unleashed fury and uncontrolled hatred.

Therefore for a Russian reading what you wrote will be seen as a provocation (cause a Russian would think that this happens in war, don't you know?)

While from a western point of view can be deeply shocking, abhorrent or hard to grasp with what type of norms more Asiatic countries are used to and has been normalised.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]


They have no shame

Off-Topic / Personal Pan-Slavic Manifesto [37]

@Bobko
They are a western slavic speaking group (linguistically). Have been over most of it's history under Hungarian boot (culturally very harshly in the 1800+). It causes them naturally to be suspicious of Hungarians and Poles (Polish-Hungarian brotherhood).

They are basically mountain slavs, used to live by themselves mostly and look at larger events mainly by how to survive the best and lose as little people as possible.

They are a people who do not create any danger to any of their neighbours so they are mostly left in peace (historically).

When I visited Slovakia it was easy to find good vibe and tone with as a Polish speakers. (Was with family), I think of them being more clear headed and with feet on the ground (compared to Poles) yet more rough then Czechs.

I think the main reason Slovaks have No intention or dream of joining Poland on their own is all the years of Austrian, Hungarian and Czechoslovak statehood. Now they want to be left to their own.

Of all the Axis powers hostile to Poland, they did the least damage overall (Hungarians and Italians comparingly were sympathetic to the Polish cause)

Off-Topic / Personal Pan-Slavic Manifesto [37]

@Torq
Lucky for me, I do not have a need to included in pictures ;)

@Ironside
It's a good prospect but, very risky for nordics to entangle itself with Poland in any European Drama's. However when a situation like the one is now in Europe when Russia is aggressive and extremely more active in Nordic region. Then any help and Co-operation is welcome (see Sweden&Finland wanting NATO)

It's a golden opportunity for Poland, especially with politically correct Tusk to improve prospects with Nordic countries. Especially now with increasing chance of U.S withdrawal from Europe and U.K, France and Germany minding their own business I guess all three would welcome a initiative from Poland instead of the other three.

Problem is the political circus, which will rather be focused on and will become less attractive for Nordics. It would require a statesman tho

Off-Topic / Personal Pan-Slavic Manifesto [37]

As both Moscow and Warsaw would rival each other for most influence in said Union. I would have lumped all Slavic states with exception of Poland and Russia.

Poland's or Russia's ambitions should be set aside as a guarantee for it's existence for it's longevity to last as long as possible.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


Sounds like an oxymoron to me

Regardless, why would anybody really be concerned in any serious manner regarding Jaruzelski and his motivations claimed by him or others. There is European Union now, decisions will be made in Brussel from now on.

How life will in the area around Vistula river will be influenced the strongest by fashion and trends of technocrats in Brussels, what colours will fly, which people to give privileges to and why. Whom to honour and whom not to honour. Your vote, voice and body has been taken away. Blinded by hatred and disgust of PiS. Poland has been sold away. For what? A budget? Control? Tone of voice in the media? Silence?

Your hope is what I find nonsensical and absurd, I pity the Polish people.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


Not irrelevant to me, I will never side with that traitor. He betrayed Poland, his brotherhood in blood, faith and comrades in arms.

He is the example of one of worst possible Polish nobleman. Yet you seek to praise him as an example? Be my guest! A hero of Europrovince 16.

I am sure politicians in Brussel will pay for such stories, in droves? I won't be that customer however!

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

@Torq
His "Polish patriotism" type meant siding with the enemy (communists, devil's offspring)

So tell us, what's the benefit of selling your soul to the devil and still telling everyone what a good Christian you are? Do you not understand that it is just: "nonsense?"

He was too afraid to die, end of story.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

@Torq
Cause the reds evolved and stepped away from it and Stalinism in general. They wanted to promise new and better times, not repeat mistakes of the past.

That's why these repressions were rather soft compared to what could had been done, a lot of it was also more about PR rather then practical policies or long-term goals.

WRONA wanted to stabilise and improve society by instilling discipline in the population and a soldier's way of life.

That's a guy born in 1990 informing you about, people in those times know that better then me for sure

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

@AntV
Szczyt wszystkiego

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]

@pawian
You can also add why it happened? ;)
Wasn't it a series of terrorist attacks that finally put an end on tolerant assimilation policies?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

@Ironside
ABW probably wanting to make it harder for Tusk to change too much with them cause they are: " Working so hard and effective in finding threats from foreign states! Just ask the media" kind of gimmick.

Wouldn't be surprised if more and more Polish institutions gonna be working extremely hard suddenly and be very friendly with every journalist in Poland and showing best possible results everywhere they can find it. Huge opportunity to improve peoples careers if they aid current managers or bosses in making them stay in their positions with TVP as horror and nightmare example

History / Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [79]

@Torq
So your thinking about group mentality and "instinct" what a certain amount of people do while grouped together without question and/or without much willingness to contest it and easily subdued by group pressure compared to other things or values that no group pressure would help?

That's what differentiates one group from another Torq!!! This is why we talk about Ukrainians and not Poles! Ukrainians have a more savage streak then Poles! Just as anybody more east of Ukraine too! Why do you think the more east you go people are more willing to have a central authority?! To keep this savagery at bay of course!

Ukrainians want to change and are willing to, as far as shedding blood for it (with many trying to be smart about it and outplay U.S.A, Europe, Poland and Russia at the same time to everyone's dissatisfaction but, that is ALSO part of Ukrainians!)

I just don't get it, you really think everyone around are like Poles? Or even close? Many people mistakenly attribute cultural values as human values (I have seen this among Poles and Norwegians, which I just *facepalm* and shame my head around internally). It seems like you are going through this right now with this thread.

So I am warning you and trying to tell you. Do not expect Germans to be Polish, do not expect Ukrainians to be Polish, do not expect Russians to be Polish.

Expect Russians to be Russians, Ukrainians to be Ukrainians and Germans to be Germans.

You cannot change their core (God can as proven with Polish history) so no use focusing on that.

One can influence the flavour, change a few ingredients. Cake is still cake, bread is bread and oranges are oranges

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [70]

@Miloslaw
It started as an attempt by a Roman Emperor to destroy Israel and it's legality. A failed attempt due to his lack of knowledge of how Israel's legality changed and basically became indestructible. It's people now roaming the entire earth basically comparingly to the population of China.

So both Palestine and "Modern state of Israel" have no legitimacy really to the same land they claim.

Problem is both people have the same problem and issue, that it's potentially more dangerous or worse in the hands of it's neighbours or elsewhere longterm. Which is why both fight tooth and nail over the same area.

@Poloniusz
Poland took a pragmatic approach, seeing it as necessary is my guess. Not much about ideology or legitimacy in Poland's policy in this