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new DNA setup - new life , ok? won't you call a new born child a new separate life?


point to a single poster here with such an attitude - maybe I have missed something

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is this tirade directed at me?
if so then I'm not catholic, and never had children - any more questions?

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it's easily noticeable while reading comments (and seeing likes under this comments) under articles in the main news portals - especially interia.pl

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perhaps the difference is too subtle for you to detect but I for example am not bothered by beliefs of women - I am only against allowing them to have abortion except a few kinds of cases - I don't care what women choose to believe in


yeah science is all love, puppies and pink pet unicorns except DDT perhaps

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so foetus is not alive then yes? is bacteria life to you?

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Polonius this was an internet poll - PiS supporters in the interwebs are much more active than those from other parties simple as that
this poll is therefore not representative of all the population

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you probably never tried good home made varieties just the bland cukiernia substitutes

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I am not 100 per cent sure but Polish constitution seems to already have such articles


there is nothing in the constitution that says women SHOULD have children

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probably in your mind only


why can't a pregnant woman go through the whole process in all cases (say except for when the pregnancy is a threat to the woman's life or health or in case of the pregnancy being a result of a rape) - and then give up the child for adoption if she doesn't feel like or can't raise the child

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what difference does it make they can't survive on their own - why can't we kill them if they stand in our way?

btw you know that if someone intentionally hits a woman and causes miscarriage they face charges for killing a child

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there is a whole thread dedicated to the issue here - it is now in the top of the list of active threads - here https://polishforums.com/news/poland-abortion-control-62528/

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why not unborn children then? because someone decided so? on what grounds?
as I said if a freshly born child is a person why not the child 10 hours before birth


are infants not parasitic - can they survive on their own?

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not in Poland according to the current law

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you clearly don't understand the implications of what I said - and I never said clergy are the most competent on the issue - it just takes some thought

and of course you still avoid disclosing when you think human life starts

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I recently have heard a story about a doctor encouraging parents to have an abortion because the twins in question were not very developed - the parents decided otherwise and the mother gave birth to two healthy even if petite girls - that's how infallible doctors are

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oh doctors are infallible, no?

and what do the doctors say about when human life begins - you are clearly avoiding the issue

what do doctors have to say about an infant being a 'moral agent' - why can't we kill already born babies - can they live on their own?

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what is a moral agent to you - is a freshly born infant a moral agent to you - does it have enough consciousness to make moral choices?

if it is not a moral agent according to some definitions why aren't we allowed to kill it - it can't live on its own, can it?


punishment for crimes should not be a vengance - it should have preventative value - to prevent people who are criminals from offending more also to prevent those who consider turning criminal from choosing that way - in case of abortion the threat of doctors to be punished is enough to save lives

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for abortions not to take place in a country with zero abortion hipocrisy it is enough for the doctors to be punishable for performing them - no need for women to be punished - and it is about saving precious lives and not about the need and urge to punish anybody

I still don't know your stance on when human life begins

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it's easy - abortion would not be banned and lifes would be lost if we demanded that women should be punished for having them which in itself is a very unpopular notion amongst women


easier for you sure - if you don't want to determine yourself publically - not for me: the thread has more than 1000 answers now

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I haven't been part of the discussion in this thread so far - and I ask you personally - cause you are sure abortion is not ending of a human life

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when does human life start then - with the birth, ten hours before birth? ten days before birth? ten weeks before birth? when?

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punishing women for abortions is a sure vote sinker - we need to make compromises in life


what was hateful in what Polonius stated - I don't get it - self mutilation and suicide are not punished by Polish law

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if you decide to murder someone it is a moral decision - should the society be restrained for punishing you for that?

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one of my favourites too - but Americans beware you won't pass drug test after eating poppy seed cake - it contains traces of opiates

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I don't know Atch - are you trying to prove something?
like your preconception that Polish cuisine has no cake tradition?

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-Polish law allows now for children with suspected Down syndrome to be aborted - PiS will probably work on banning such eugenic abortions - do you think a person with a Down syndrome doesn't have the right to live - what do you think about the quality of life of a person with Down syndrome?


PiS are bad with PR - if they were better they would already be showing children with down and preparing the ground for the law which they intend to pass which will ban most eugenics abortion

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was murder always agreed upon as morally unacceptable? - look at the WW 2nd if you don't want to go any deeper - In Hitler Germany it was no offence to kill a Jew - so the notion of what is moral and what is moral was not universal even for murder

btw you know what democracy is? - it's the rule of the majority - if a majority decides that something is unacceptable and should be punished in this way or another then it is the law - end of dispute

Language / The "end piece" of a loaf of bread in Polish [80]

there was a specific term for a cake in Polish before and it is still regional in parts of Poland or refers to a specific type of a cake - the name is kołacz

nowadays ciasto can both mean dough and cake (perhaps even pastry as in French pastry)


sour cherries are typically dark when really ripe - sweet cherries are much more varied - they can be very light (yellow with a red blush), red, or even almost black (various varieties) - from a biological point of view sour cherries and sweet cherries are two different species - it is easy to tell appart a sour cherry and sweet cherry tree (the leaves are distinctively different - but also the size and shape of the trees is different)

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it's not entirely correct - typical Polish bread is a mixed one with wheat and rye flour and typically you have more wheat flour in the mixture (the leaven used is typically purely rye though) - pure rye bread (or bread with the dominance of rye flour) is not common in Poland (I like it very much though) - it uses a lot more leaven and can be quite sour - I once had excellent rye bread with caraway in the Italian Tirol - they also have very good rye bread in Eastern Germany from what I observed

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abortion is illegal in most cases in Poland and doctors who perform abortions can face jail time if caught - there was widespread hypocrisy in Poland when it comes to abortion though and underground clinics were tolerated - I don't know about the current situation

and yes I am for jail penalty for doctors who do it in cases that are not allowed by the law


John I haven't found the exact figures for Poland - but according to Daiy Mail the percentage of teenage mothers in the UK where there is a lot of sexual education is higher than in Poland where there is almost nil sexual education - looks like your simple mechanism doesn't work