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polonius   
6 Dec 2012
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Yes, bryłka can mean a lump or clod of most anything. What your personally remembered ancestors did for a living was not necessarily a reflection of their surname which probably originated centuries ago. On the other hand, since Poland was a nation of peasants 85%), it is not inconceivable they were amongst them.

But we cannot entirely rule out a possibly toponymic source such as the villages of Brylewo or Bryłówek.
polonius   
3 Dec 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

There are very few polticians or celebrities in any country that have not said stupid things. Some lost their temper, others made gaffes and still others (e.g. Palikot) deliberately say provocative things to stay in the public limelight.
polonius   
3 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

Lech Kaczyński was jailed udner martial law, but Jarosław was not. He told me they presumably left him at liberty so they could follow him to any contact places. But he knew he was being shadowed, so he watched his step and shed hsi tail whenever possible.
polonius   
2 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

Sharing something with PF does nto necessarily mean the poster agrees with it -- it can be just something for possible discussion.

Gazeta Wyborcza editor Adam Michnik told TVP INFO on Sunday that the abbreviation PiS should stand for 'podejrzliwość i strach' (suspicion and fear), not 'law and justice'. 'In today’s Poland Kaczyński is paving the way to Putinism, a system where political opponents can be jailed with impunity. The PiS president is wrecking the Polish state and he knows it. He’s very intelligent sort... He seems to have diagnosed things that he will never return to power if things are going well in Poland.'

TVP INFO on Sunday showed PiS leader Jarosław Kaczyński saying: 'On December 13th we will be commemorating the anniversary of martial law. But our march will be geared to today’s issues – freedom which is being increasingly threatened, social solidarity which is in bad shape and independence which is being questioned in different ways. Some say we must abandon our Polishness, and the mainstream media treat such appeals with all seriousness. We must mobilise Poles so we can create a force capable of carrying out a different, great project for our country, whose cornerstones will be freedom, solidarity and independence.'
polonius   
1 Dec 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

So if it was not removed, then why keep denying its existence. The offender not only said soemhting general or passive like 'if they were murdered' but actuyally wrote 'if we murdered...'. He thereby included himself amongst the wannabe killers.

The offender should just say he's sorry for the gaffe, slip of the tongue or getting carried away and be done with it.
polonius   
30 Nov 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

So quote from and link to the post in which he said that.

The link has long since been removed so the denier is full of Dutch courage and can boldly tell you to quote from the non-existent link.
polonius   
29 Nov 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

The 'politically correct' liberal-leftist agenda means compassion and inlcusion only for selected pet minorities and disdian and exclusion towards all those who can see through all the two-faced PC propaganda.
polonius   
29 Nov 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

Becuase he tried to deny it. He could've said he was taking the p*ss and that would've laid the matter to rest. Although that was a pretty curde and stupid joke, comparable to Sikorski wanting toi slit the throats of his political foes or Braun decimating the GW crowd.
polonius   
29 Nov 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

What do you think of the proposal to annihilate 160,000 Rydzyk supporters? That was quite a unique and innovative idea.
polonius   
28 Nov 2012
News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

Dziennik.pls has reported film director Grzegorz Braun saying at a club meerting the only way to improve things is to execute a dozen Gazeta Wyborcza journalists and an equal number of TVN reporters.

Is that yet another example of today's 'five minutes of fame syndrome'? It has certainly created a buzz round a none-too-prominent film-maker. Some say he should be reported to the prosecutor.

Where is the line between freedom of expression and hate speech?
When Radek Sikorski said the PiS gang should have their throats slit (zarżnąć watahę), was that hate speech or just a colourful metaphor?

This is another superstition of the Polish intelligentsia , pacifism . The belief that here you can get anything , as there will be expedited to the next world in a sudden , drastic and unpleasant. Well let's say it would take a dozen editors of "Gazeta Wyborcza" , with two dozen employees of co-star 's death , the center today , TVN , did I mention , of course, full-time and sprzedawczykach traitors who always they were (...) . , Well, if to not be shot , every tenth , it means that the soul carouse hell no - said Braun .

polonius   
26 Nov 2012
News / Repopulating Poland with Ukrainians? [67]

I wonder where Ukraine will start looking for new immirgants when one-fourth of their popuialtion rebases in Poland or emigrates elsewhere? They'll probably mainly have the Caucases and Far East to provide the lacking manpower.
polonius   
25 Nov 2012
News / Repopulating Poland with Ukrainians? [67]

Polish Radio has reported demographic expert Professor Zbigniew Strzelecki as predicting the decline of Poland’s population by six million within the next 40 years. 'If Poland does not take action, its population will decrease reduce from 38 to 32 million in 40 years’ time,' he said. This will happen 'if we do not react to decreasing fertility and stop migration,' Professor Strzelecki, who heads the government's Population Council, told Polish Radio. Poland's birth rate is one of the lowest in Europe, as couples delay having children due to financial worries. To remedy the shrinking population, 'we must therefore prepare to welcome immigrants of different cultures, which raises a variety of issues,' the demographer said. The main source of immigration will be from Poland's eastern borders, where the demographic situation 'is even worse than in Poland'. Poland saw a jump in migration after it joined the EU in 2004, with hundreds of thousands finding jobs in the UK, Ireland and other nations such as the Netherlands.
polonius   
24 Nov 2012
History / Pokłosie (film on Jedwabne) [36]

Here is an excerpt of a private review of the film 'Pokłosie' by a fellow-Polonina. My own asessment is not as negative.

The movie is presented as fiction but also as a follow up on Jedwabne.I read a few reviews and they all seem to agree that Poklosie is even worse than "Neighbors". There are very few good reviews and the public seems to avoid the film. Like the Neighbors first chapter, the script for Poklosie seems to have been written by a Russian intelligence officer and not by Pisakowski. It is a propaganda film in the true Soviet tradition with gory details and mindless malice. You may wonder why the Polish Government with some help from the Russians funded such a film and is now promoting it...

No wonder that Wajda liked this film, since he was the director of the first successful Communist propaganda film "Diamonds and Ashes". In that film the Communist are portrayed as caring and well educated victims of Nazism and the AK as evil Nazi Collaborators full of hate and not caring about people. Wajda's film and Andrzejewski's book on which it was based was commissioned by Jakub Berman the head of UB (Polish clone of NKVD). One might ask who commissioned "Poklosie" and who commissioned Gross's book?
polonius   
23 Nov 2012
Food / Goose meat anyone in Poland? [20]

One tradiotnal Polish way is to stuff it with slightly undercooked kasza gryczana (buckwheat groats). another way is to stuff it with apples and prunes. The bird should be salted, peppered, sprinkled with marjoram and rubbed with 1-3 buds crushed garlic inside and out and left standing that way at room temperature covered at least an hour before roasting.inside and out. It can be basted with a cup of miód pitny and then with the drippings that form. Smacznego!

BTW, goose is a cholesterol-lowering meat.

I'll wager anything that all the frozen geese and duck at supermarkets in Poland are Polish-bred. The fact that there is Fleischente on the label (meat duck) only means that is the main export destination.

Martinmas is the English translation of Dzień św. Marcina just as Candlemas is Matki Boskiej Gromnicznej, Chrisitmas = Boże Narodzenie and Whitsun = Zielone Świątki. Co kraj to obyczaj!
polonius   
23 Nov 2012
Food / Goose meat anyone in Poland? [20]

In fact, roast goose was so much a part of Polish Martinmas festivities that it formed part of the folk weather-predicting folk litrugy. If the leftover breast bone of the roast goose was white, that was said to foretell a snowy winter. One of many Martinmas sayings went: Na św. Marcina modna jest gęsina.
polonius   
18 Nov 2012
Food / Goose meat anyone in Poland? [20]

Goose is definitely not KFC-style utility food but festive holiday fare. Perhaps comaprable to the difference betweern filety z mintaja and lobster.
polonius   
17 Nov 2012
Food / Goose meat anyone in Poland? [20]

Merged: Where's the goose?

What's with the Poles? A Polish TV commentator said Poland produced and exported the best geese in the world, but the averga Pole eat only a few grammes of goose meat a year? What happened to the custom fo roast goose on Martinmas?

Roast goose is one of the tastiest meats around. Wędzony półgęsek (smoked goose breast) was once a Polish speciality.
polonius   
16 Nov 2012
History / Pokłosie (film on Jedwabne) [36]

Historian Jan Chodakiewicz alleges that Pokłosie is an attempt to make Poles feel guilty of the Holocaust.
polonius   
15 Nov 2012
History / Pokłosie (film on Jedwabne) [36]

Has anyone on PF viewed this film already or heard about it?

It is a feature film based on one of the most controversial episodes in Poland's World War Two history, the Jedwabne massacre of Jews by their Polish neighbours. It was released Friday in the country's cinemas.

iphone.france24.com/en/20121109-film-wwii-polish-massacre-jews-opens-poland
polonius   
14 Nov 2012
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

GLONEK: Traceable to at least two different meanings: 1) A thick slice of bread; 2) algae. Which of the two lay behind the Glonek surname and why is anybody's guess. Boletus may have some additional insight.
polonius   
10 Nov 2012
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

The legend of how the Wieniawa clan and coat of arms evolved into Pomian you may fidn itneresting.

WIENIAWA: The legend surrounding Wieniawa tells of a raging bison that attacked the prince’s hunting party in a forest. A knight named £astek grabbed the animal by its horns, thrust a bent-twig hoop through its nose and led it to the prince. When another courtier tried to hold the animal, it started rampaging, so £astek lopped of its head with one swoop of his mighty sword. For his bravery the prince granted him the bison-head coat of arms known as Wieniawa. The crowned lion in the crest was apparently the heraldic emblem of the reward-granting prince.

POMIAN: The origin of this coat of arms goes back to a member of the Wieniawa clan named Chebda who out of sheer hatred murdered his own brother Jarand, the dean of Gniezno. King Władysław ruled that one of the penalties for that act of infamy should be the removal of the nose-ring depicted by the Wieniawa crest and the addition of a sword running through the bison’s head to symbolize the fratricide. The new crest was renamed Pomian to reflect the now archaic word “pomiana” (quarrel, atrocity, scandal).

DOLIWA: The Doliwa coat of arms goes back to the times when the pagan Jadvingians were planning to capture Liw (pronounced: leev) castle in northern Poland (Mazowsze region) and sent a scout ahead to size things up. A Polish knight known as Porajczyk (bearer of the Poraj coat of arms) spotted the pagan scout, took him aside and said he wanted to capture the castle himself and would gladly join forces and share the spoils with the pagans. Porajczyk won the confidence of the pagan chief and told him which side of the castle was the most vulnerable. He managed to slip away back to the castle and told his commander of the ruse. Polish troops surrounded the area, ambushing and decimating the pagans. Porajczyk was rewarded with land and treasures by the king who added two more rosettes to his Poraj coat of arms (said to be of Czech origin) and renamed it Doliwa (from “Do Liwa!” – a battle-cry meaning “Onward to Liw!”).

LUBICZ: The Lubicz coat of arms goes back to an episode in the Middle Ages, when the army of King Kazimierz had been ambushed by a powerful force of pagan Prussians. A knight named Lubicz (bearing the Pobóg coat of arms) led a troop of his own soldiers against the enemy with such ferocity that he sent them fleeing for safety. In recognition of his splendid service, Kazimierz rewarded him with numerous possessions. He also added another cavalier’s cross to his Pobóg crest, which depicted a standing golden horseshoe topped with a cavalier’s cross on a blue shield, removed the hound from the crest, and renamed the modified coat of arms after the brave knight. This heraldic device is shared by 710 variously surnamed and mostly unrelated Polish noble families.

NA£ĘCZ: The Nałęcz (head-band) coats of arms is thought to have acquired its name from Lake Nałęcz and depicts a white or silver cloth head tied at the bottom and set against a red shield. According to one legend, such a head-band, symbolising royal favour, was bestowed by Mieszko I (922-992), Poland’s first historical ruler, on those pagan chieftains who willingly accepted Christianity.
polonius   
9 Nov 2012
Life / (Serdeczna Matko) Polish song sung at Polish funerals [17]

Popular (non-scientific) phonetic transcription:
NOTE: Upper-ase syllables get the stress.

sare-DECH-nah MAHT-kaw, aw-pye-KOON-kah LOO-jee.
nyekh cheh pwahch SHA-rut daw lee-TUSH-chee ZBOO-jee.
vig-NINE-tsy EH-vi daw CHE-byeh vau-WAH-mi
ZMEE-wooy sheh ZMEE-wooy, nyekh sheh nyeh too-WAH-mi.

NOTE: the short e (liek that in such English words as let, get, bet, etc.) is often indicated above as eh. That is not to be pronounced like the trademark Canadian interjection 'eh' (ey).
polonius   
9 Nov 2012
Life / (Serdeczna Matko) Polish song sung at Polish funerals [17]

Berni23 is pulling your leg. 'Serdeczna Matko' can be sung on various occasions: weddings, funerals, Marian devotions, etc.

SERDECZNA MATKO

BELOVED MOTHER
Beloved Mother, guardian of the nation,
Hear orphans weeping in their supplication.
We are Eve's exiles, do you hear us praying?
Show us your mercy when we begin straying.

We have sinned often over all the ages,
Hence we deserve God's punishment that rages.
But when the Father strikes, be our defender,
Be our safe refuge, Mother dear and tender.
polonius   
4 Nov 2012
Food / Anyone fancy Polish pieróg lubelski? [12]

There is a similar loaf called a kulebiak which instead of groats is usually stuffed with cooked cabbage, but may even contain a rice and egg filling, fish or other things. Google it - I'm sure there'll be pictures and recipes.
polonius   
4 Nov 2012
Food / Anyone fancy Polish pieróg lubelski? [12]

Pieróg Lubelski is a bread or egg-bread loaf filled with a mixture of buckwheat, potatoes of farmer (curd) cheese. To those who grew up with it this is a typical babcia's comfort food. Actually it is known along Poland's eastern flank from Podlasie down through Lubelszczyzna to Podkarpacie.
polonius   
3 Nov 2012
Food / Goose meat anyone in Poland? [20]

A campaign is under way in the northern Poland's Kujawsko-Pomorskie region for the fourth time to promote the consumption of goose meat in Poland. Martinmas (Nov 11) had been the traditional occasion for roast goose, but in recent years nearly all of Poland's geese are exported to Germany. Any PFer fancy roast goose? On the fatty side but very nice esp. prepared with prunes and/or apples.

kujawsko-pomorskie.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22466&Itemid=1