vetala
26 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]
Don't expect respect from me.
cheap, naked women.
Don't expect respect from me.
vetala
26 Feb 2010
vetala
26 Feb 2010
Genealogy / Polish-Ukranian roots and genes [72]
It's like saying that Poles are really Ukrainians. Our genes are similar because we share ancestry and we intermingled for centuries. We are still separated by culture and language.
It's like saying that Poles are really Ukrainians. Our genes are similar because we share ancestry and we intermingled for centuries. We are still separated by culture and language.
vetala
13 Feb 2010
Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]
I can assure you that it was.
I can assure you that it was.
vetala
13 Feb 2010
Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]
Lol, WHAT?! I meant that it's a regular word for a Jewess. Word for a whore is much different.
.....and "kinda" associating Jewish women with whores, right?
Lol, WHAT?! I meant that it's a regular word for a Jewess. Word for a whore is much different.
vetala
13 Feb 2010
Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]
What bigotry? It's simply more practical. 'Female descendant of the worshippers of Jewish faith' is kinda long so we just settle on 'Żydówka'.
What bigotry? It's simply more practical. 'Female descendant of the worshippers of Jewish faith' is kinda long so we just settle on 'Żydówka'.
vetala
13 Feb 2010
Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]
No it's not. It's a regular word, not a slang at all.
No it's not. It's a regular word, not a slang at all.
vetala
19 Jan 2010
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
Yes, LAGirl, your boyfriend being a racist is an unquestionable proof that all people who happen to have the same ethnicity as him must be exactly the same. It's a simple biological fact.
Yes, LAGirl, your boyfriend being a racist is an unquestionable proof that all people who happen to have the same ethnicity as him must be exactly the same. It's a simple biological fact.
vetala
8 Jan 2010
Language / Funny/strange/deviant words in the Polish language [35]
'Miesiąc' used to mean 'moon' a long time ago but now it's no longer used in this context (now it means 'month'). It's the same with many other words such as 'lico' old Polish for face, still in use in some other Slavic languages.
A part from Polish, we can see in all these languages the occurrence of the Latin (and modern Italian, Spanish, French etc.) root "Luna" or of a slavic root exemplified by e.g. Czech Měsíc. Why not in Polish? What's the etymology of księżyc ?
'Miesiąc' used to mean 'moon' a long time ago but now it's no longer used in this context (now it means 'month'). It's the same with many other words such as 'lico' old Polish for face, still in use in some other Slavic languages.
vetala
7 Jan 2010
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
Polonius, do you know what Gmytrasiewicz surname could mean?
Polonius, do you know what Gmytrasiewicz surname could mean?
vetala
5 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
I've been wondering about it, actually. Do you have some sort of link to Poland? You mentioned somewhere that you've been writing on this forum because of some experience in Poland, if I remember correctly?
Why am I on a Polish forum if I wasn't drawn somehow to Poland?
I've been wondering about it, actually. Do you have some sort of link to Poland? You mentioned somewhere that you've been writing on this forum because of some experience in Poland, if I remember correctly?
vetala
4 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Bullsh*t. Lots of noble families intermarried with Jews (for example Radziwiłłowie, Potoccy, Lubomirscy, Lanckorońscy and Hutten-Czapscy) and Jews were often ennobled themselves.
I also disagree with Yehudi's conviction that a Jew would rather die than convert. According to the Polish law "Jeśliby Żyd który albo Żydówka do wiary chrześcijańskiej przystąpili, tedy każda osoba i potomstwo ich za szlachcica poczytywani być mają"
Meaning that every Jew who converts automatically became a noble and his family did too.
Here's an interesting article about the Jewish Neophytes (with nice drawing of their coats of arms if anyone's interested):
rp.pl/artykul/139640.html
But of course, that's only the nobles. They made up no more than 10% of the population so it's still not enough to significantly change the gene pool of the whole nation. Certainly not many peasants intermarried with Jews.
It was a cultural thing, Nobles saw mixing with Jews as degradation
Bullsh*t. Lots of noble families intermarried with Jews (for example Radziwiłłowie, Potoccy, Lubomirscy, Lanckorońscy and Hutten-Czapscy) and Jews were often ennobled themselves.
I also disagree with Yehudi's conviction that a Jew would rather die than convert. According to the Polish law "Jeśliby Żyd który albo Żydówka do wiary chrześcijańskiej przystąpili, tedy każda osoba i potomstwo ich za szlachcica poczytywani być mają"
Meaning that every Jew who converts automatically became a noble and his family did too.
Here's an interesting article about the Jewish Neophytes (with nice drawing of their coats of arms if anyone's interested):
rp.pl/artykul/139640.html
But of course, that's only the nobles. They made up no more than 10% of the population so it's still not enough to significantly change the gene pool of the whole nation. Certainly not many peasants intermarried with Jews.
vetala
3 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Hmmm... three pages in just one day. Yeah, Jews really are special people. Everybody wants to discuss them all the time.
Hmmm... three pages in just one day. Yeah, Jews really are special people. Everybody wants to discuss them all the time.
vetala
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Pity it's not known for having the biggest Jewish diaspora in the world, then. But still, kudos to Scotland.
The only country in Europe to never at any point in history have any anti-semitic law or decree.
Pity it's not known for having the biggest Jewish diaspora in the world, then. But still, kudos to Scotland.
vetala
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frank#Baptism_of_the_Frankists
It's not misinformed at all. Poland did hold 3/4 of the Jewish world. Centuries ago, when they were chased out of all other countries. Where else in the world could they live?
From what I know, there weren't many of those in Poland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frank#Baptism_of_the_Frankists
I was talking about the misinformed fact that was brought here before, that claimed Poland held more of 3/4 of the Jewish world.
It's not misinformed at all. Poland did hold 3/4 of the Jewish world. Centuries ago, when they were chased out of all other countries. Where else in the world could they live?
vetala
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Yeah, because Jews only moved to Poland right before Nazi occupation.
There were about 2,500,000 Jews in Poland before Nazi Germany occupation, which doesn't even come CLOSE to 3/4 of the Jewish population at those times.
Yeah, because Jews only moved to Poland right before Nazi occupation.
vetala
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
Current DNA tests are crap. They only test mtdna and ydna - the first one can be passed SOLELY by women and the second one SOLELY by men. So a mixed couple will have daughters with no trace of father's dna and sons with no trace of mother's dna.
WTF are you fighting over, guys? The thread was about how many Poles may have at least ONE Jewish ancestor, not about how much Jewish blood Poles have. It's kind of obvious that having one Jewish ancestor 300 years earlier won't change your genotype much.
Current DNA tests are crap. They only test mtdna and ydna - the first one can be passed SOLELY by women and the second one SOLELY by men. So a mixed couple will have daughters with no trace of father's dna and sons with no trace of mother's dna.
WTF are you fighting over, guys? The thread was about how many Poles may have at least ONE Jewish ancestor, not about how much Jewish blood Poles have. It's kind of obvious that having one Jewish ancestor 300 years earlier won't change your genotype much.
vetala
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]
At least one? In that case all Poles do. I'd laugh if a Pole tried to convince me that they have not a single Jewish ancestor.
Simple math - in 1790 around 30.000 Jews converted following the teachings of Jacob Frank. Assuming that every each one of them had only 2 kids and a generation counts as 30 years that gives the number of 7 680 000 of their descendants in the year 2000. All of them resulting from a SINGLE event.
how likely is it that the average Pole has had at least one Jewish ancestor?
At least one? In that case all Poles do. I'd laugh if a Pole tried to convince me that they have not a single Jewish ancestor.
Have there been any significant genealogical studies on this?
Simple math - in 1790 around 30.000 Jews converted following the teachings of Jacob Frank. Assuming that every each one of them had only 2 kids and a generation counts as 30 years that gives the number of 7 680 000 of their descendants in the year 2000. All of them resulting from a SINGLE event.
vetala
30 Dec 2009
Genealogy / Easy way to find out which Polish coat of arm/Clan you belong to. [105]
markskibniewski
Hello there, relative. My family has this CoA except ours looks slightly different due to marriages with other noble families. Unfortunately I don't know much about it other than that it's actually a very common CoA and our former president Jaruzelski had it too.
markskibniewski
Hello there, relative. My family has this CoA except ours looks slightly different due to marriages with other noble families. Unfortunately I don't know much about it other than that it's actually a very common CoA and our former president Jaruzelski had it too.
vetala
28 Dec 2009
History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [221]
Add also "Swedish", "Mongolian", "Ottoman" and everyone else who has ever invaded us.
Aw, I'm not a good Pole then. I can't remember the last time I prayed to Światowid.
2. Resist German and Russian expansionism.
Add also "Swedish", "Mongolian", "Ottoman" and everyone else who has ever invaded us.
4. Keep the faith.
Aw, I'm not a good Pole then. I can't remember the last time I prayed to Światowid.
vetala
6 Nov 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]
I traditionally carry out a pogrom every few weeks but recently I've been neglecting this tradition due to headache, no doubt brought upon the world by those evil Jews.
I traditionally carry out a pogrom every few weeks but recently I've been neglecting this tradition due to headache, no doubt brought upon the world by those evil Jews.