If you spent five seconds to think Pawian, you would be more entitled to saying "Teaching history is my vocation!"
If you spent about 60 seconds to think (I am giving you more time because I don`t know your mental powers yet, but judging but this post, they are not too high. :):):):):) , you wouldn`t draw too hasty conclusions, dear Antek.
Don`t be silly. I didn`t make any epic fail.
Did you really read what Warszawski wrote?:
In the original thread:
Bzibzioh: Pałac w Wilanowie (Wilanów Palace)
The palace they will not give back to the rightful owners...
If you did your googling during your 60 seconds, you would know that the last righful owner of Wilanów Palace was Ksawery Branicki, the greatgrandson of one of the greatest Polish traitors, Franciszek Ksawery Branicki:Count Franciszek Ksawery Branicki (1730, Barwałd Górny - 1819) was a Polish nobleman of the Korczak coat of arms, magnate and one of the leaders of the Targowica Confederation. Opponent of the reforms of the Great Sejm (1788-1792), supporter of the Targowica Confederation. Sentenced to death in absentia by the Supreme Criminal Court during the Kościuszko Uprising (1794).
So, when I answered Warszawski,
Quite right so. Those facking noblemen once betrayed Poland to Russia and today they deserve nothing but a kick in the butt!
I had the right to do it.
Here is the list of greatest Targowica traitors:Stanisław Szczęsny Potocki: Marshal (head) of the Confederation. Sentenced to death, but never apprehended. Instead, on September 29, 1794, his portrait was hanged (see illustration). In 1795 he was rewarded by Catherine the Great with the Russian Order of Alexander Nevsky and the rank of Général en chef.
Other magnate members:
Franciszek Ksawery Branicki: Sentenced to death during the Kościuszko Uprising but never apprehended. Emigrated to Russia, died at Biała Cerkiew, 1819.
Szymon Marcin Kossakowski: Hanged April 25, 1794, in Vilnius during the Kościuszko Uprising.
Józef Kazimierz Kossakowski: Bishop. Hanged May 9, 1794, in Vilna during the Kościuszko Uprising.
Ignacy Jakub Massalski: Bishop. Hanged June 28, 1794, in Warsaw during the Kościuszko Uprising.
Seweryn Rzewuski.Sentenced to death in absentia by the Supreme Criminal Court during the Kościuszko Uprising (1794).
Where is the art, Pawian and who is the rightful owner?
Let me repeat: the last owner came from Branicki family. Members of this family once participated in destroying Poland. Kick in the butt!!!
Cannot you see where Pawian did his failure? ;-)))))))))))))
No, I can`t. But I can see your pathetic and futile attempts. :):):) Cheap!
Pawian has gone from historian to incompetent propagandist, in a single post, good to have you onboard Antek.
Good to have you on board, Warszawski and Antek. I just love teaching history to flaming ignorants and prove them wrong! :):):):):):)
Pawian, nature has a natural way of healing wounds...
I hope it will also work for you. :):):)
Today we can call them for traitors. But if we gonna see it from their perspective we will have to try to understand why they did it.
I am sorry but it is relativism which I cannot accept. Besides, if some of the traitors were actually hanged during Kosciuszko Insurection, it means their contemporaries judged them very negatively.
Instead, on September 29, 1794, his portrait was hanged.
That is.......so.......polish! :)
Gotta love you guys! :):):)
Certainly, death penalty in effigy isn`t a Polish invention: