News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


It's not clear if Van der Bellen thinks there should be an independent country named Austria or simply a place on the map of the EU super state named Austria.....

Many EU policies work fine and some of them are dismal failures by any rational standard and the EU leadership is refusing to admit this (the same way the communists never admitted to any of their catastrophic failures).

The best way to prevent the real far right from coming to power is to accept some governments that are further to the right than the EU leadership is comfortable with will be winning elections. Nothing tones down radical rhetoric quicker than being made responsible for your policies on the ground.

At present the EU is telling the people of Europe that their is no peaceful way to change unpopular EU policies..... that is far more dangerous than anything the FPO could come up wth.

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


No. The real diehard segregationists were overwhelmingly members of the democratic party until the early 1970s.

Again, you haven't actually mentioned any policy positions.

Please name their policies that you disagree with (I might also). But if all you have is vague fears of the "far right" then you have no real arguments.

The positions I've found from the FPO aren't really far right, but if it and groups like it are not given a voice then the _real_ far right is liable to take over. By trying so hard to prevent a scary far right from forming - you're probably doing more to empower them.

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


So? Is there a reason I should care?. The Democratic party was once the party of racial segregation in the US. Times and parties change.

At present I haven't heard much from the FPO that a reasonable person would have to disagree with. If they were really that bad the press would be all over their policy positions - insteads it's all innuendo and calls to the past.

Tell me something I should disagree with now and stop being a drama queen stuck in the past.

Polonia / POLES vs BULGARIANS [160]


The title of this thread is not even the top 30 % of nonsensical stuff on this forum. I really have no idea what the owner or moderators are trying to accomplish.

New threads are often attached to old (often irrelevant) threads and people who know nothing about Poland are allowed to rail on about unrelated nonsense.

Part of the problem is linguistic - the idiotic English only rule means that almost no real Polish people would be interested in posting here.

Another problem is that Poland is a _bitterly_ divided country at present (and no policial actors are interested in changing that) and so discussion about issues affecting the country soon break down into nasty arguments.

Another is that there is a .... British contingent that tends to be kind of ethnocentric and dismissive of the great majority of Polish culture.

Short story - it's a mess and maybe fun for a wallow now and again but you won't learn anything worthwhile here.

What's the political situation in Bulgaria? Is it as bitterly divided as Poland? Is it still mostly avoiding the "refugee" crisis? I also had the impression it's doing better than it had a few years ago.

And Bulgarian, not Polish, is the weirdest Slavic language - no cases and articles? (I'm very fond of Bulgarian and would like to learn more but the real world impinges on these plans).

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


Why "thankfully"? The anger of many Europeans towards their governments and Brussels is not lessening. And FPO is not really "Far right" (if it were there would be many citations of their far right positions - instead their far rightness is mere stated again and again and again...)

FPO is rightwing period and would have been centrist a couple of decades ago.

The real far right right are waitng in the wings.

The choice for the EU is:
a) accept some governments that are further right than Brussels
b) start paying attention to voter concerns instead of ignoring them
c) war

I'm completely serous. Celebrating van der Bellen's victory is applauding the orchestra on the Titanic.

Feedback / Member warning system to prevent abuse / spam / off-topic posts [145]


Only to those who place the party above the nation and the law....

Loyalty to those who defile the rule of law is the real treason.

Work / How much is the average living cost in Poland for foreign student? [46]


There are no jobs for international students. If you need to work in Poland then don't come to Poland.

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


Will the British public enjoy the middle easterners, sub-saharan africans and pakistanis she will bring in to take their place? Don't Polish migrants have better employment and lower crime rates than any of those groups?

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


They count but there can only be one 'best' or 'most' and what benefitted Poland most was access to foreign labor markets.

Poland with the investment and EU payments but with al the un(der)employed still in Poland is worse than Poland without the investment and payments with the unemployed in the labor markets of the UK, Germany, Norway etc

Having both is nicer, of course.

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


True in 1989.... 2004? Not so much. The best deal that Poland got from joining the EU was being to export much of its unemployed population. EU grants tend to come with lots of strings and bureaucracy and are mostly cosmetic. Getting a few million people into jobs (even if not in Poland) was a very good thing for Poland (maybe not as much for the UK Ireland etc

News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]


True, the Euro is a 1980's solution imposed when there was no need for it anymore. The limited benefits don't make up for the downsides (like that fact that in it's current form it's not a true currency but a loanshark scheme)

Law / German/Polish Citizenship. Is my father German or Pole? [17]

Maybe he was Czech? Part of Silesia is in the Czech Republic.

News / Polish parliament refuses to consider shack-up draft between both traditional and same-sex couples [96]


Those were IIRC mostly negotiated ahead of time by countries that the EU really wanted to join (that is they wanted them to join enough that they made concessions to them). I don't think Poland was in any position to demand concessions....

News / Polish parliament refuses to consider shack-up draft between both traditional and same-sex couples [96]


There's some truth to that in people all over the west are rejecting elements of rule by technocracy (when it is divorced from taking human nature into account). But... it's not very religious and not too concerned about a lot of traditional hot button reactionary issues or concerns of old fogies.

News / Polish parliament refuses to consider shack-up draft between both traditional and same-sex couples [96]


Asking "how many times" implies that he sometimes does not think of it. My assumption is that he never stops thinking of it....


In modern usage (as opposed to what you can copy out of a dictionary)

perverse =/= perwersyjny = perverted

perverse = uparty (possibly with a bit of bezinteresowne chamstwo and/or dziwaczność)

Well I'm against Brussels forcing people in member states to engage in homosexual activity no two ways about it.

But people obsessing about what a small minority of consenting adults do in private (or how they order their personal lives) is a lot more perverted than almost any sexual practice I've heard of....

USA, Canada / Poles in America: How do you pronounce your Polish surname? [135]


Where do you get that idea? The w (phonetically f) in -owski names is perfectly audible in all but the most element-ish speech (element in its Polish meaning).

USA, Canada / Poles in America: How do you pronounce your Polish surname? [135]


yes, the key word being 'almost' (and different types of Spanish have vowels that are different).

I remember years ago an American linguist (very fluent in Spanish) heard Polish vowels demonstrated and remarked on the slightly odd nature of the Polish o (not something non-linguists are likely to hear but it's there).

USA, Canada / Poles in America: How do you pronounce your Polish surname? [135]


If you use a Spanish o it will be fine (though the Polish o is a little weird higher and more open simultaneously which is a little weird)

USA, Canada / Poles in America: How do you pronounce your Polish surname? [135]


roughly

voy-cheh-HOF-skee (HOF rhymes with loaf)


helpful as always....

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


When it comes to neighboring countries Russia's interest (historically and now) appears to be single minded and have a single goal - to dominate. Countries bordering Russia have two choices - agree to or resist Russian domination. Please find counterexamples of Russia having cordial normal diplomatic relations with a bordering country.

Poles are not interested in being dominated by Russia no matter how much the idea may please Serbia....

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Any examples?

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Only if a majority of them (inlcuding a large majority of women) are employed. All the statistics I've ever found on Muslism/African immigrants in western europe don't really point to that happening.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Yep, pretty much. The problem is while lots of people (especially catholics) are trying to do something about the latter, not too many people (muslims especially) are trying to do something about the former.

What can muslim immigrants bring to Poland that other groups (like Vietnamese or Ukrainians) can't?

Highly educated and secular oriented muslims already find Poland an okay place to live (I've known a number of them) but large numbers of low social capital conservative muslims? I do not see the appeal (for either side).

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa (The People's Republic of Poland aka Soviet satellite aka "Communist Poland")

It pretty muched sucked donkeys, Crow-ie

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


Poland had that, it was called the PRL and Polish people hated it. Why go back?

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


So the penalty for leaving Catholocism is death? Catholic women aren't allowed to marry non-Catholics? Female catholics are only able to inherit half as much as men? Who knew?

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


Because you're sane. It takes a person who is insane or lying to themselves to look at what's happened in Westen Europe and conclude that large scale muslim immigration was a good idea. Rampant ghettoization, dismal results in education and employment, overrepresentation in all sorts of crime, especially sexual violence - and some people want more or it and want Poland to join in.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


How many Polish people have not worked in one of these countries or have friends or family members who have? Too many people think that Polish people are unworldly and xenophobic on the issue of multiculturalism - the truth is they've seen it (without the buffering that the chattering classes experience) and don't like it and don't want it come to Poland.

Good fences make good neighbors.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


That is a very slow horse race.


The one and single accomplishment of multiculturalism, fast foods!

The point was that Hungary got rid of the people that were molesting women en masse in Cologne!

Germany 0 - Hungary 1

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]


The period of greatest prosperity of the US coincides with historically low levels of immigration. And becoming a citizen meant shedding most of your previous loyalties. Most importantly it meant that adult immigrants agreed to let their children be socialized in the values of the new environment and not in those of their homelands. That's over.


Yeah, sub-saharan African countries don't have those and look how well they work out!


Which city had a nicer New Year's Eve, Budapst or Cologne? A large majority of the Merkeljugend are low social capital economic migrants and not refugees in any real sense.