News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


the two categories are mixed (not necessarily a majority but a very significant minority of Poles have some degree of Jewish ancestory (far more than realize they do)

Jewish(ethnic) and Christian are not mutually exclusive categories and neither are Jewish and Polish

The idea that Jewishness refers exclusive to an ethnic group is another straigh-from-Russia idea that goes along with your boy-crush on Putin....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


You're the polite one, aren't you? Want a medal?

She's a Polish citizen born and bred, just because she's not just like you doesn't make her any less Polish.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


So says the ultimate arbiter of Polskości? You can't even be bothered to live in Poland and have less than zero credibility in determining the Polishness of other people.

Stay in Noreg...

Life / Why are Polish people so strange & unusual? [51]


The American version

first person: I just need to borrow some money to get back home.
secone person: Bite me.
first person: Oh, how I miss those bluegrass of my native Kentucky!
second person: You're American! Well all the best of luck to you, buddy! Hope you make it.... no don't write... or call... I think I have to stand over there right now.....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Not to mention the German terror attack during the Munich olympics.... or the American terror attack on NYC in 2001....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Past a certain point, treading on eggshells to keep them from flying into narcissistic rage is just enabling their hysteria.

I agree with the video that future reparations from Poland are the real cause. If Poland's ill-conceived quest for reparations from Germany ever bears fruit Israelis (and some other Jewish people) are going to be making a bee line to get as big a chunk of it for themselves as possible.

Love / Polish Pet Names For Girls. [156]


then I guess....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Because Kaczyński and Nethanyahu(sp?) are birds of a feather, xenophobes who want to induce a siege mentality among the populace.


They never say that openly do they? they just can't stand the idea of someone, anyone, anywhere not feeling personally guilty about the holocaust. Poland doesn't feel guilty about (despite the participation of some Poles) and that enrages them.

Love / Polish Pet Names For Girls. [156]

I once worked in the same office as an Edyta and the only zdrobnienie I ever heard for her was Edytka

have you ever heard anyone use Edytuś? I see it in a list of possible dimunitives but.... weird.

Love / Polish Pet Names For Girls. [156]


very true, but it has its uses (assuming one knows how to use it) if Edytuś were in common use I'd expect it to show up in common sentence frames... I'm still looking and not finding....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Except there was no real Polish state at the time (since the nazis and soviets had carved it up between them). And the Soviets (true to form) kept a big chunk of pre-war Poland for themselves afterward.

I'm not in favor of the law in question but 'Polish death camps' is intellectually lazy by people who don't (and/or don't want to) understand the situation at the time.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Or even if just most of them did? Or a signifcant minority? Where's the line between individuals and the narod? How on earth do they expect to be able to enforce this against non-Polish-citizens who aren't in Poland?

Laws that are meant to have symbolic value (like this one) seldom work out or bring positive results in the real world.

This smells like a distraction (so that people wouldn't notice the terrible election 'reform') or other terrible PiS ideas waiting in the wings....

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

One problem is that there is no single definition of nation in English (in modern US usage it's most often used to mean 'country' and "a French national" means someone with French citizenship rather than someone who is ethnically French.

Naród is more like ethnic group+, that is a cultural collective (though back in the 90s gazeta wyborcza did a series on small ethnic groups which it referred to as 'narody')

Who knows what it can mean in other languages?

Again the whole thing is meant to foster an 'us vs them' attitude in the population because that's the only mindset that JK understands.

Love / Polish Pet Names For Girls. [156]


good thing I have you then!

Edytuś była gets 0 ghits as do Edytuś poszła, robiła, zrobiła

Edysia and Edusia do get ghits in those frames...

Can you provide ghits where Edytuś is used in a sentence?

Love / Polish Pet Names For Girls. [156]


huh? Not Edytusia?

What abou Edysia? gets some ghits... as does Edusia

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


Oh, I'm not a supporter of the law by any means. It's poorly written and poorly conceived and it's first effect is to drastically increase the use of the phrase Polish Death Camps... very dumb, but it plays into the PiS playbook of trying to convince Polish people that the whole world hates them and only PiS is willing to stand up against all the mean ole' polonophobes...

PiS = PRL2: Electric Boogaloo!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]


in Polish, English translations are interesting but beside the point.

My understanding of the wording used in the media is that it's about accusations that the Polish state (which did not exist in any meaningful way from 1939-44) conspired with nazis or that Polish people collectively supported and/or worked with nazis.

I don't see how it would prevent anyone from saying "Jan Kowalski worked for the nazis" or "the village of Polskawieś carried out a pogrom after the war"

Some random Israeli "my grandmother was killed in a Polish death camp" is very inaccurate but honestly laws apply to citizens (whereever they are) or those in Poland (wherever they're from) and not non-citizens outside the country.

In general Polish laws are notorious for being poorly written (those affected are still trying to decipher the update to the law on 'prawo autorskie' and taxes).

Those who write Polish laws really need a few courses in plain language (though that's a non-starter culturally).

Polonia / How do Poles feel about Romanians and Bulgarians? [27]


I don't know if I would say 'since'. It was the about the only reliably warm summer seaside vacation place available in communist times but immediately afterward all but disappeared from Polish tourists' minds four about 15 years as they were eager to try other places, esp Italy and Spain and Greece etc.

Then it began attracting Polish tourists again around 2006-07 or so and has remained popular since then.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

You don't understand recent polish history very well. The UK has never been an enthusiastic member of the EU and so it's not surprising they should prefer to concentrate on other international relations.

Poland has aspired to be in the European mainstream and has no similar international relations (apart form Russia).
Not similar at all.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


They're all ideological chicken hawks, wanting tough talk on their pet causes when they won't be touched by the outcome... it's impossible to take them seriously.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


Yeah, when has Poland ever needed allies.... And who needs laws in Poland (esp if your 4ss is parked permanently in the US or Norway....)

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Any political party has different constituents and they can't pander to them all at the same time. Bringing up and dropping abortion is a way of pandering to the hardcore religious conservative catholic minority in Poland. I'm sure they'd love to drop it but there is a large group of people who will sign petitions that mean the government has to look at it from now until doomsday.

They even tried to throw the opposition a bone and discuss liberalizing the laws but the opposition is so hopeless now they couldn't be bothered to vote for it... useless losers.

USA, Canada / Sending candy from America to Poland - what kind? [7]


I was assuming that some of them weren't American in origin (which may be why they're available in Poland) I was thinking 'easily available in America'.

What about the rest?

Also..

Jawbreakers!

The candies with baking soda inside? (I've had something like that in Poland though it was different)

Those big swirly multicolor lollipops?

Salt water taffy?

Chick-o-sticks?

USA, Canada / Sending candy from America to Poland - what kind? [7]


Twix, mars, snickers, bounty, kit kat are all present but beyond that not much (I haven't lived in the US for a long time so I might be out of date)

Thinking of things that aren't much like things available in Poland...

3 musketeers
red hots - the idea of hot and sweet is very not within the Polish conception of the universe
lemonheads -
milk duds
candy corn
twinkies (not candy but it's mentioned a lot and she might not realize how weird/nasty they are)
moon pies
butterfinger
tootsie roll
fudge (make sure it's well sealed)
pixie sticks
caramel creams
watermelon stix

As I said I'm out of touch with the current candies so my list might be dated...

Genealogy / Polish looks? - part 2 [81]


If I saw the picture and were asked to guess the nationality I would have thought Spanish or French (but that might partially be hair, facial expression and the way you're holding your head).

As atch said, you look like you could be from anywhere in Europe...

Law / Working in EU countries and in UK with Poland's Residence Card (Karta Pobytu)? [51]

you need to check with spain, but my guess is no, spanish labor laws are very.... intricate

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]


It used to be when someone brought a gift of alcohol the host was supposed to open it on the spot so they could have a drink with the giver, but that's not so common anymore as far as I know.

You could get similar gifts for the brother and his wife (or maybe a single shared gift for them both)

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]

You can't go wrong wtih sex toys!!!!!! Seriously, bring small symbolic gifts, flowers or chocolates for her, a bottle of nice brandy for him, that sort of thing. They won't expect more (Poland's never been an extravagent gift country) and should appreciate that you're trying to please them.

News / WOSP in Poland [161]


I find it a little annoyin (and I find Owsiak to be very annoying) but.... I'll always respect it because it was practically the first citizen initiative in post-communist Poland. That is after 1989 it was the frist (and for a long time the only) large scale coordinated effort by citizens that wasn't organized by either the government or church.

That gives it a cultural, civilization value that goes beyond the actual monetary raised and equipment bought. I suspect that many British charities are the same, the civic society element is just as important as the results.

It would be nice if it weren't needed (though I'd still encourage it) but Poland spends (proportionately) about half as much on healthcare as most European countries and that's not going to change soon.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


What about among immigrant groups where sex-selective abortion is common?

I'm pro choice, but I recognize that that means that some people will make choices that I find to be personally repugnant. It also means some will make choices that they later regret....