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Working in EU countries and in UK with Poland's Residence Card (Karta Pobytu)?


jworlledge 5 | 13
9 May 2011 #1
I have searched and could not find an answer to this question... if I have a karta pobytu, can I work in other countries in the EU?
sobieski 107 | 2,128
9 May 2011 #2
No you cannot. A Karta Pobytu is a Polish residence card which gives you right to live here for the period specified.
OP jworlledge 5 | 13
9 May 2011 #3
So being married to a Pole would also not guarantee me the right to work outside of Poland, correct?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
9 May 2011 #4
Family members have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU if they're married to an EU citizen. Most EU citizens make it pretty painless to do so, although the UK is infamously strict in this respect.

Generally speaking, being married to a Pole will allow you to work quite freely (with the appropriate national residence card) in all EU states, plus the EEA and CH.
OP jworlledge 5 | 13
9 May 2011 #5
Thanks!

Are you familiar with what I need to work in the UK? I want to work at a summer school there this year and not sure from the official websites if this is possible.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
10 May 2011 #6
It's only possible if your wife is resident in the UK at the same time, and you'll also need to apply for the EEA Family Permit in order to obtain your treaty rights. Entering on a tourist stamp will prohibit you from working, and your wife will need to be in the UK with you during your employment there. I can tell you that if you arrive at the border with the EEA Family Permit and your wife isn't with you - you'll be denied entry, or admitted on the basis of the tourist waiver, not the family permit.

In short : a minefield, and not really worth it for summer camp wages.
michawindy - | 2
25 Apr 2012 #8
Merged: Important question about karta pobytu (can I legally work in Germany?)

i'm a non-EU citizen and i have a karta pobytu and now waiting for new card for 2 years and i would like to ask if i can work legally in Germany or what i should do ????? this is important plzz i hope i can have answer and help
Warszawette - | 128
8 May 2012 #9
No, the karta pobytu is ONLY valid in Poland and NOWHERE else. If you want to move to Germany or elsewhere, you need to have proper documents from those countries.
expatod22980 - | 3
9 Nov 2012 #10
Merged: Karta Pobytu Question (is it legal to work from another EU country?)

Hello, I'm an American expat living in Warsaw. I'm Married to a Polish citizen and have recently received my 10 year Karta Pobytu. Can anyone tell me if it is legal for me to work for a company from another EU country that does business here in Poland. All of the actual work would take place here in Poland and they would be paying me in EUROS deposited to my Polish bank account.

Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer on this subject.
Harry
9 Nov 2012 #11
an anyone tell me if it is legal for me to work for a company from another EU country that does business here in Poland.

As far as I know, work permits are not required for persons who are married to Polish citizens.

they would be paying me in EUROS deposited to my Polish bank account.

What do you plan to do about your tax obligations?
expatod22980 - | 3
9 Nov 2012 #12
Thanks for the reply Harry. Not sure about the tax issue yet. I have plans to join a lawyer friend here in Warsaw for drinks to discuss just this type of stuff this sunday. I assume all countries involved will be looking for their cut. I need to read up on the tax treaty situation between the UK and Poland, and how it relates to me. Considering I already have to file taxes in 2 countries I really don't need the tax issue to be any more of a burden to me.

I would really like to take the job... I am so sick of teaching Engrish I could scream. I'm just not a teacher at heart.
Harry
9 Nov 2012 #13
One solution which springs to mind is that your wife opens a one-person company (which is free and fairly simple) and that company then invoices the UK company for the work done by you in Poland. She would then have you as an employee of the company (or, more probably, given that it's easier, she'd just pay the 19% tax and officially keep the money all for herself). As far as the UK company are concerned, there's no problem, they still get the work done. In fact, it's easier for them, as they have no obligations other than paying the invoice every month.

In theory you could open your own one-person company but I seem to remember that when an American does that he makes some kind of tax problems for himself in the USA. I expect the US embassy could give you more information about all that.
berni23 7 | 379
9 Nov 2012 #14
they would be paying me in EUROS deposited to my Polish bank account.

Make sure they pay you to a foreign currency account(konto walutowe) or you will be ripped off on the exchange rate by your bank big time.

Maybe this has changed but a few years ago all banks i tried wanted horrendous amounts for exchanging money.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
9 Nov 2012 #15
As far as I know, work permits are not required for persons who are married to Polish citizens.

One further, I think - anyone married to an EEA+CH citizen doesn't need a work permit in Poland. The problem is that the Karta Pobytu issued in this case looks identical to the one based on non-family residence - so employers are totally confused by it.

Not actually fond of this law at all.
expatod22980 - | 3
9 Nov 2012 #16
Make sure they pay you to a foreign currency account

Thanks, yeah, I learned the lesson of which you speak the hard way a couple years back.
imano 10 | 42
8 Dec 2012 #17
Merged: Polish (temporary residence permit). work in Holland?

hi friends.

i study in Poland and have a temporary polish residence permit. i want to ask if it's possible for me to work during the holidays in Holland. if i can't is there any extra thing i can do to work during the holidays in Holland. i'm not a European citizen :)...

thanks in advance for any help or advice.
Marcus911 3 | 102
18 Dec 2012 #19
Hi, you cannot work in Holland unless you have an EU passport. It does not mattter if you have a temporary residence permit in Poland, it does not transfer to any other EU country.
silesian99 - | 1
12 Apr 2014 #20
Merged: Holders of Temporary Residence in Poland able to work in UK or other EU countries?

Hello,

I recently was awarded temporary residency in Poland; does my Poland temporary residency enable me to take a job in the UK or another EU country or am I restricted to Poland?

Thanks in advance for the help!

joe

Merged: Temporary Residence & working outside the EU.... maintaining temp residency status?

I have temporary residency in Poland but have been offered a job in the Middle East.

By working outside Poland, will I lose my temporary residency?

I will be able to return to Poland approximately every four months. Will a return to Poland every 120 days preserve my status as a temporary resident?

Thanks...
jon357 67 | 17,562
12 Apr 2014 #21
Where are you from?
smurf 39 | 1,981
12 Apr 2014 #22
'Temporary residence' last for 3 years doesn't it? If you're from the EU that is.
DiLFran
26 Jun 2014 #23
Hi,

I am married to a Pole and hold a karta pobytu. My husband's job relocated us to France. With my karta pobytu, can I work in France?

You said that marriage entitles you to live and work anywhere in the EU. Would this apply to me?
frenny
26 Jun 2014 #24
Would this apply to me?

I'm not an expert, but from what I have read from this forum previously: yes, you can, provided you go with your husband.
Konch
14 Jul 2014 #25
Merged: Does the Karta Pobytu give a person the right to work in Poland/EU?

hi, does having a karta pobytu give a person the right to work in PL / EU? And how do i get a zameldowanie done?
Monitor 14 | 1,820
14 Jul 2014 #26
hi, does having a karta pobytu give a person the right to work in PL / EU?

No. info-migrator.pl/us-2-the_legalization_of_stay-9-residence_card.htm

And how do i get a zameldowanie done?

foreigner in poland/polish-law/stay-poland.html
Konch
14 Jul 2014 #27
Thank you Monitor, so how do i get work rights or some kind of work permit? Can I get a work permit first without being confirmed a job in PL?
Razi - | 6
31 Jan 2015 #28
Merged: Do I, as a non EU holder of a Polish residence card, need permission to work in Sweden?

i am non EU family member of Eu notional and i am holding residence card of Poland ,We both looking to move Sweden for work ,do i have permission for work there or have to apply some where..Thank you!!
Monitor 14 | 1,820
1 Feb 2015 #29
Previously you said something else.
Kevon - | 3
12 May 2015 #30
Merged: Getting polish id card

Me and my parter who is polish planning to get married in Poland. I want to find out what do I have to do to get polish ID card and residency permit (I'm from Trinidad and Tobago). Also if anyone know what can I do to after our marriage to be able to work in the uk (I need visa otherwise, but after getting polish nationality I don't) as we both live here ?


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