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HOW LONG DOES THE APPLICATION FOR KARTA POBYTU TAKE TO PROCESS IN POLAND!


mauritius_2302 8 | 21
13 Jan 2012 #1
Hi all!

I have been to these guys who process this Karta Pobytu and I wasn't given a clear answer. My wife told me that its going to take around 2 months( words of officer who explained her).

However, I am not sure if he meant two months or within two months for this application to be processed. Because in UK, when I did apply for my Residence Permit last August, they said it may take up to 6 months but surprisingly I got a positive answer within 4 weeks.

I followed steps from some people on here and have done nearly all of what I was asked for (translated my marriage & birth certificate lately). And I have been registered on my in-laws address! I would like to know if there is anything else that I need to do? And the main question remains- How long does this application take to be processed?

Regards.

Karl.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
13 Jan 2012 #2
around 2 months

which means: possibly more, possibly less than two months. it seems clear enough to me.
scottie1113 7 | 898
13 Jan 2012 #3
It takes a while. Your situation is a little different than mine, but I'll you about my experiences during my four applications, once for my initial card and then three more times to renew it. In every case, the process was similar, although the last time I applied they asked me for a lot more documents than they had before.

I needed to have more than 45 days left on my visa when I came to Poland, and I've always started the renewal process more than 45 days before my card expired. Sometime before my card expired, usually a week or even a few days before the expiration date I received a decision then had to wait for 3-4 months before I actually got my new card. This time I started the process in September, got the decision in October and am still waiting for the new card which I should get either this month or next. Polish bureaucracy does not move swiftly.
love_sunil80 14 | 127
14 Jan 2012 #4
I have been to these guys who process this Karta Pobytu and I wasn't given a clear answer.

It takes minimum 45 days to get decision thats there standard procedure. I have got my 5 the residence card and it always took 45 days not more. Since you have applied for residence card you would get a confirmation letter from the office that they have received your application and your decision will be made on particular date. They try to make decision on the date mentioned on the letter but at times it can take longer. You guys will have interview and decision will be made after that, I have been lucky always to get friendly inspektor for my case and I have been always informed on the same day that how long I will get card for and it is positive. After decision it will take 3-5 weeks to get your residence card.

cheers
OP mauritius_2302 8 | 21
14 Jan 2012 #5
initial card

Is that 'Karta Pobuty' you are talking about mate?

had to wait for 3-4 months before I actually got my new card

then you have to wait for this vignette on your passport or like a bank card?

I have got my 5 the residence card

And how were they for? I mean I know that they usually give you for one to five years as being s spouse for a Polish citizen. And in this lap of time you could claim your citizenship and save yourself from all this loads of stupid paperwork mate!
love_sunil80 14 | 127
14 Jan 2012 #6
Unfortunately they dont give for 5 years like in another EU countries being spouse of EU national. They can give u for 1 or 2 years, One year they usually give to everyone if you apply for the first time and second time this can be for 2 years. Karta Pobytu is a term for residence card. Karta pobytu is given to everyone who is foreigner and living in Poland as a student, spouse, business or work.

In my case I always get for 1 year because i hardly stay in Poland I travel Poland - India 3-4 times in a year so thats why maybe they always give me 1 year but someone who is here working living they give 2 years after first card. If you live in Poland continuously for 3 years you can later be eligible for karta stalego pobytu (Permanent residence card) and eventually for passport.

I hope this helps.
scottie1113 7 | 898
14 Jan 2012 #7
then you have to wait for this vignette on your passport or like a bank card?

I have a stamp in my passport saying that I can stay in Poland legally until I get the actual card. They also told me that the next time I apply it can be for 5 years or permanent residency since by then I will have been in Poland for six years.

They can give u for 1 or 2 years,

My first two cards were for one year. The second two were for two years. See what I wrote above for the next one.
noreenb 7 | 557
14 Jan 2012 #8
Considering the fact the level of Polish accountants' English the time may be surpisingly long.
scottie1113 7 | 898
14 Jan 2012 #9
The guy who handles my renewals is a certified translator whose English is excellent. However, once the paperwork leaves his office after the final decision for approval, it goes into the system. God only knows what takes so long, but it my case it always takes months after the decision to receive the actual card. I'm not saying it's ;ike this anywhere else, only that it's been true for me in Gdansk.
love_sunil80 14 | 127
14 Jan 2012 #10
My first two cards were for one year. The second two were for two years. See what I wrote above for the next one.

It is not necessary that everyone will have first two card for one year. My friend for the first time got for 2 years and my second friend go second card for 2 years. It is upto the officer. There is no specific rules for the same.
harry24 - | 2
15 Feb 2012 #12
hi my name is harry.i applied for karta pobytu after marrige.my first card was without marrige for six month.nwow i am wating for answer for second one its more then 2 month and they dint give me any answer even the deadline was pased.i called this office they said they are wating the report from police border gurd then they can give me answer.last month police came to my house and everything was fine.but i dnt knw about border police because when i apllied for my last card only local police came not the border gurd.i want to ask how long it can take.plz answer
Harry
15 Feb 2012 #13
It takes as long as it takes. One time the police decided they needed to come to my home three times before they would give me the OK (once they didn't believe I was me, the next time they didn't believe I lived in the flat which I own and only on the third visit did they believe I was me and did live there). All that added about a month to the process.

But don't worry about it: as long as you got your application in before the deadline for the submission of applications (I think it is now 30 days before the expiry of your existing visa), they are required to give you a temporary visa which is good for however long they take to finish processing your application.
harry24 - | 2
15 Feb 2012 #14
thanks for reply harry.my last card already expired on 6 feb.the irst card i got without get married cuz of my child and i had interview for it.but this time they didint call me for any intervieiw and just send me one letter that they will decide my case before 7 of feb 2012 police came to our negibour they knw me very well then tey came to our house they saw me with my wife with my child and family and they said its fine.i hope i will get answer soon
local_fela 17 | 172
6 Mar 2012 #15
Hi all. I sent my application to the corresponding department for my karta pobytu. I received a letter last week saying that they will take another 24 days to make a decision and on Monday I received a second letter saying that a personel from the immigration department will come to visit me next week!

Reading through all these replies on this thread, I didn't see anyone talking about this bit (visit from the immigration) which is making me more frustrated at the moment to be honest. Why are they taking 24 days more? My schengen visa expires just one day for the 24 days and I wonder what will happen if they take longer than that.
faraplayedhere - | 2
15 Nov 2012 #16
In my case, yes, they conducted a "home visit", and interviewed my Polish husband and I.

They came unannounced but we were ready for that. Anyway, the questions from the immig. officials were easy and
my husband and I weren't scared because our answers were real, anyway.

I have blogged about how I processed my recent Karta Pobytu and u may want to just read it from my blog entry.

And since I cannot post my blog domain here, just search on google for faraplayedhere. hehehe.
Yunhao - | 2
28 Jan 2013 #17
[Moved from]: About Karta Pobytu! Resident Card! It takes so much time in Poland?

Does anyone know the contact of Card production department?? i've been waiting for the card for almost 4 weeks, and i have flight to China in a few days, i really need the card before departure.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
28 Jan 2013 #18
You might find it is waiting for you at some office. Phone them first and ask.
Yunhao - | 2
28 Jan 2013 #19
i can only called the Immigration office right now, but they can't do anything but waiting, just like me...they won't even call the office in Warsaw to check if the card ready or not :(
anxiousnwaiting
12 Apr 2015 #20
Merged: Karta Pobytu renewal taking a long time

Hey People,
I am a non-EU citizen, working in Warsaw/Poland since 2010. My employer has been renewing my work permit/ Karta Pobytu in past.

This year as well, all paperwork was done and submitted to Govt. in January.

However, I still didn't get even the decision, let alone new Karta Pobytu. This makes me stress a bit as it's almost 3 months since application was made. Moreover, my professional life is taking a hit too as I cannot travel abroad (which I have to often) without renewed Karta Pobytu.

Would you have any input/pointers on the process and ways to speed it up if possible?

Thanks a ton for help.
Nighthawker - | 1
21 May 2018 #21
Merged:

Karta Pobytu application Open or Closed?



Hello Folks !
I had applied for my Karta Pobytu for the second time in December 2017 after my first karta was expired. Then i had to fly to my home country in february 2018 so i decided to get a National Visa on my passport from my home country to enter Poland. Now that i possess a valid visa on my passport, Is my Karta Pobytu application is still processing or it gets closed automatically?

Thanks for any inputs :)
pol2pol 1 | 3
21 Jun 2018 #23
Merged:

My legal status in Poland: waiting for karta pobytu; how to check the status of application?



I am a non-eu citizen and came to Poland on a business visa issued by Latvia. I applied for Temporary Residence Permit in Poland based on company contract on 25 March 2018. I gave fingerprints and submitted documents. It has been four (4) months and I have not yet heard anything from immigration. Can you please let me know how I can check the status of my application and speed this application up? Will a visit to Urzad be of any help? I want to receive my karta pobytu as soon as possible. Also, what is my legal status in Schengen area during this process?
tekotek
27 Aug 2018 #24
Hi @mauritius_2302
I'm non EU citizen, i came to Poland with my wife and son. I'm about to apply for karta pobytu, currently i'm preparing all the documents written on the website.

It seems i have similar conditions of you.

I have so many questions, could help me please?
What is this "registered on my in-laws address" means? I saw in your first post.

About family documents:
I'm about to translate marriage certificate and birth certificate of my son to a sworn translator.
However, in the website of Residence Permit Requirement, it is written:
Civil status records confirming kinship or marital status issued by foreign countries should be marked with apostille or confirmed by the Polish consul.
So my question is, after we use sworn translator.. should we do anything else about this "apostilee or confirmed by the Polish consul?"
How is your experience?

For insurance,
I'm student, so i received Narodowy Fundusz Zdrowia (NFZ) national insurance, but my family can't get this insurance.
The NFZ and SUZ officer explained my family can get NFS insurance after we received karta pobytu.
How did you manage it? Did you buy private insurance?
Is it ok to use Medicover Medical Subscription?

Thank you very much for your help.
dovla
27 Aug 2018 #25
So my question is, after we use sworn translator.. should we do anything else about this "apostilee or confirmed by the Polish consul?"

Translation by a sworn translator was sufficient in case of my family.

I'm student, so i received Narodowy Fundusz Zdrowia (NFZ) national insurance, but my family can't get this insurance.

You need to be employed in order to qualify for family reunion. Your family must have NFZ insurance, which they can get if you are employed and paying into NFZ. Private insurance is not accepted.

You need to consult a lawyer, don't rely on what is written on the website.
tekotek
28 Aug 2018 #26
Thank you for your answer.
What documents were translated in your case?
I come with my wife and my son.
So i will translate: Marriage certificate and Birth certificate of my son.
Do you think its enough?

You need to be employed in order to qualify for family reunion. Your family must have NFZ insurance, which they can get if you are employed and paying into NFZ. Private insurance is not accepted.

In my case, i went to NFZ and SUZ.. my family can receive NFZ only after we receive karta pobytu.
I ask other friend who previously applying Karta Pobytu using PZU insurance. It was accepted.
Hopefully.. this time it will be accepted as well in my case.
dovla
28 Aug 2018 #27
What documents were translated in your case?

Same as in yours: marriage certificate and birth certificate.

I ask other friend who previously applying Karta Pobytu using PZU insurance. It was accepted.

I initially submitted Luxmed insurance. It was not accepted, they explicitly asked for public health insurance or insurance that covers hospital treatment. So if you want to try with PZU, ask for an insurance that covers hospital treatment if they offer such. Private insurances typically do not cover this at all or they pay some lump sum compensation for the days spent in hospital

Also keep in mind that you need to submit a poof of stable and regular income.
tekotek
29 Aug 2018 #28
Thank you very much for your help.

About the insurance, i get your point. So it must be insurance the covers hospitalization treatment.
So i bought 6 month PZU basic insurance for my wife and my son. It's too expensive if its for one year.
I ask the PZU officer and check from the term and condition document, it is written it will cover hospitalization and outpatient treatment.
I hope its ok. I don't have any choice... i really can't get NFZ insurance for my family, not after my family get Karta Pobytu.

I went to NFZ & SUZ office with Polish friend. So i'm sure there is no misunderstanding.

Yes.. i will submit contract and every information about my scholarship.
Thank you very much :)
dovla
29 Aug 2018 #29
So i bought 6 month PZU basic insurance for my wife and my son. It's too expensive if its for one year.

It takes 8-12 months to get karta pobytu, so the insurance that you bought will most likely expire even before they pick up the application from a pile and start processing it.

Also note that Polish law doesn't give a right for family reunion to a person in circumstances like yours (student on a scholarship) unless if you are a scientist conducting research at a research institution. If you don't fall in this category, your wife and son may be able to get karta pobytu not based on family reunion but based on "special circumstances" if inspector handling your case concludes that such circumstances exist. I hope that you consulted with someone knowledgeable about Polish law on foreigners to avoid negative outcome.
tekotek
29 Aug 2018 #30
That's very difficult.
It is strange.. we can buy insurance monthly or every some months, or yearly.
that depends on the insurance company regulation, and depends on my decision right?
I mean.. is not that i will not buy insurance after it expired.
I will buy continuously.. certainly because it is important for my family, especially for my son.
But shouldn't they see the date when it is submitted?

About the Law.. I never heard of it before. Thank you for informing me about that.
It is very strange..if they have this law.. why they gave us National Visa for me and my family in the first place?
When i apply for National Visa back in my home country, i gave them information such as LOA, the amount of scholarship,
i gave them letter that explain i will responsible for my family which i'm sure the amount of scholarship is enough.
If its not enough.. why bother accepting this scholarship?
So.. there was no problem with the visa, the person in embassy told me after my family and I arrive Poland, we must apply for Karta Pobytu.

Now my family and I are already in Poland. If what you've said is true, the law contradicts their decision.
This issue makes me worry.

if i think it further.. so every foreign PhD student in Poland must be a single (unmarried?),
or every foreign PhD student must leave their family behind?

I will consult about this..thank you very much for the discussion @dovla..
I appreciate it.

is it possible for me to have your email address?


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