Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Always super tough to generalize without seeming embarrassingly ludicrous or insulting, but I have noticed that many Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians
tend not to smile as readily as Westerners (forget about the Americans or other non-European groups such as Asians), perhaps owing to their Communist past,

can therefore tend to look serious or reflective, perhaps giving the impression of being a stern, tough lot, particularly among the women:-)

Certainly hairstyle is part of outward appearance, and it is true, that a number of distinctive '60's-era styles, most notably the once popular "beehive" cut among

younger or teenage women, might tend to incriminate someone as being from Eastern Europe, especially Czech Republic, Poland, Uktaine or Russia!

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Do I detect a jibe aimed at Hartz IV?
LOL

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Of course, not all change is for the better. Accept change critically, not passively or blindly!

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

As the world changes, sadly we too must change with it, adamant in our own private feelings though as we doubtless are:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Yep, sounds about right. Just goes to show there is NO SUCH THING as a "pure" ethnicity, try as the racists to to prove otherwise:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Agreed, Atch!

Most Brits will also say, "I have been to the museum this afternoon", which is of course PERFECT 'English', however American English typically prefers
the simple past rather than the past participle in such a sentence:-) I did indeed speak too soon, as all European non-native English speakers on this forum will obviously have been taught British English (albeit sadly not "R.P."LOL)

@Dirk,

"I disagree. Men aren't embracing their manhood......" And if you were to have uttered such a lie in any court of law in the world, my friend, you'd have been guilty of perjury!!

Incorrect. Men who mostly use, that is prefer solely, their fists instead of their noggin are no longer embracing their humanness, but instead their animal origins, from which we allegedly developed. Some of us apparently haven't:-)

Used to be, and not all that long ago, that a dispute between two middle-class American men was almost settled with words, save of course if one of the gentlemen in question was foolish enough to lay a hand on the other. That's something else entirely.

Back on topic, I've found it hard to generalize any more between the appearance of Poles and Ukrainians, except that the latter tend to have wider faces and often less

chiseled features.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Weimarer, methinks thou art being a troll! Pulling our leg then:-)

You're honestly comparing the fathers of a modern democratic Germany (based in fact on the US Constitiution, much less) with some slick opportunist whose scientific fame rests almost solely on satisfying America's desire to beat the that time Soviet Union in the arms race, was essentially an unrepenetant, if "re-educated"(LOL),Ex-Nazi, and whose accomplishments were that of a "cuckold" of the United States government?

Although I'm scarcely belittling von Braun's genius at re-invention and self-promotion, his stature pales before the likes of a Friedrich Ebert or Philipp Scheidemann, not to even mention an Albert Einstein or a Max Planck!

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Hahn and Strassmann succeeded in splitting the atom, yet Hahn in particular became an émigré shortly thereafter, fleeing to Britain, subsequently
to the US, if I'm not mistaken.

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Probably right, Maf.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Testosterone without the aid of those little gray cells is worthless!

Instead of celebrating "manhood", why not do something in praise of the human brain, next to the spleen, the most underrated human organ.

@Weimarer,
I merely corrected your English in order to improve communication, as your usage gave a different meaning in English to what you meant to say in German:-)

No offense taken, I'm sure.
lol

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Weimarer, you're truly off the beam, my friend.

If you don't care about your history, you obviously don't care your future!
The ends don't always justify the means.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Nevertheless, your use of "aggressive" in this context is wrong, deal with it! B.B. was impressed by a "crass" story. If he didn't mean "raw" or "callous", he used the wrong word, sorry once again to burst your perfect bubble.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

?? Dr. Wernher von Braun was part of the entire Nazi ideology! One of the luck ones, he made it over to the States (along with Hubertus "Strugi" Strughold, Kurt Debus and Arthur Rudolf), not without conveniently shedding his NS past (lest we conveniently forget the Dora-Rocket Project in Pinnemuende, using JEWISH slave labor, oh sorry, you're right, ol Doc von Braun knew nothing about that little factoid, right?LOL) and, thanks to flawless American English, drop-dead good looks plus a telegenic personality just made for TV, wangled his way into America's (and NASA's) hearts, eventually becoming Honorary Citizen of Huntsville, Ala.

The enemy of America's enemy became America's bosom buddy!!
Nice try there, Weimarer:-)
:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

By "aggressive", I trust you mean "annoyed" or "pissed off", right? In English, "aggressive" means "assertive", it's a false friend with the German:-)

Hate to be a pest, but often you guys do tend to translate from German when posting in English.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Why Dirk, ol' man, you missed your calling as an illustrator for >Der Stuermer<. LOL

@Weimarer,

I never once referred to you or your ilk as "subhuman", but rather to your seemingly primitive and misguided Weltanschauung as beneath any human dignity, nothing more:-)

Interesting mix of German idols you have, sir. You realize that the late Ex-Chancellor Schmidt was partly Jewish on his father's side and I find it decidedly curious as well that you mention Arminus aka Hermann Cherusker among those Germans whom you most admire. So different each of them too. What do they possibly have in common except as Germans?

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Recall once hearing the expression "dobry gosc", meaning "a good egg" aka "good guy".

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Eternal creations are forever, B.B., whereas a victory match, a beer's, only as good as your last burp:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

A judgement call, I suppose. The "order" of a city like Rostock, complete with homegrown bigotry and anti-foreigner violence threatening to come out of the woodwork at a second's notice vs. the "disorder" etc. of Frankfurt am Main (rather than an der OderLOL) in the former West, with plenty of "free", if foul-smelling air from the physical filth as opposed to the spiritual decay emanating from the former East, albeit nearly zero foreigners and clean streets.

As for me, lived quite some stretch of time in multi-culti, Berlin near where I grew up ( and which Hitler once termed "die Judenrepublik") you may recall and had the opportunity of spending a stretch with some erstwhile friends in squeaky clean Swabia, with picturesque, cuckoo-clock storybook villages, nearly no non-Germans within a radius of almost five-hundred kilometers.

Couldn't wait to return to civilization!

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

"Leftist"??

Capitalism is as rightist as you can get, Weimarer!
I question whether or not you love your country for the proper reasons:-) For instance, classical music, visual arts, cinema, literature, science....
These are the reasons one "loves" their country, not merely whose soccer team is the best or this kind of thing. The latter is purile, that is to

say "juvenile" and not terribly mature.

Oh well, who knows, maybe you'll grown into yourself eventually and develop into a human being:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

If you can't get used to the new normal of being underbid by lowballing foreigners in your country, well, I guess you'll have to move from Germany or at least be your own AfD soldier for change:-)

LOL

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Germans aren't the only ones obsessed with immigration. They're merely the ones we have to keep an eye on a little more than, say, Poland, Hungary, Denmark or France, for obvious reasons:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

@Weimarer,

How can you sit there and post that you're for technology and nature while in the same breath by ant-foreigner in Germany? Who d'you think will be filling many of those tech as well as green jobs?? In addition, numerous German firms have moved offshore, not to mention having been outsourced for years now:-)

Your argument is specious, it holds no water.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Weimarer is indeed uninformed about many such matters and also appears to have revisionist views of history, albeit ancient!
:-)

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

@Weimarer,

....and anti-everything else, so it seems:-)
Tell us, apart from a mythically pure "white", native Germany, what DO you like anyway?
LOL

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

I know an expression in English "The perfect is the enemy of the (just) good enough".
:-)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Schumann? I've no idea, Ziemowit, as the chap I'm referring to was a musician who died in the 1850's, I think.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

I was only in Zwickau once and that was to visit the birthplace of Robert Schumann, the composer.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

We must distinguish here between traditional home grown European anti-Semitism, such as the rich, fertile soil of the peasantry from which the Nazis drew their support as opposed to the SPD-CSU's local backing of the Palestinian Arabs who themselves are openly anti-Semitic.

Not everyone who is willing to receive an anti-Semite, for instance the German government inviting Achmudzhineshad to their county, is necessarily anti-Semitic themselves! Steinmeier & Co. are merely playing politics, but surely they're not dangerous.

Tacitus is absolutely correct that the AfD keeps awful dodgy company and surely helps fan the flames of anti-Jewish hostility, in itself not far from xenophobia.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

Milo, far too many Germans still unfortunately think of Poland as that backwater neighbor full of big-boned whorish females and oafish men who think a tree is something one eatsLOL German arrogance and superiority extends as far south as even Switzerland or Austria, much less Italy, Greece or Spain, that latter three being in German eyes great vacation spots with loose women, but serious culture, science or the like??!

Many would laugh. I agree with you here, Milo. It's sad.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]

You like The Ol' "Desert Fox" (whose son Manfred was Stuttgart's most popular mayor ever, I'm told), anti-Hitler and not known to have been indoctrinated with Nazi

anti-Semitism.

And yet, you'd vote for AfD in a shot.

You are a curious conundrum, aren't you Weimarer!
:-)