Genealogy / Paprotnia Poland 1800-1900 [10]

First of all, you will need to find out which Paprotnia ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paprotnia ) is the correct one. Once you know, check which parish was responsible, and then check at which state archive the relevant church books are now stored (provided they have survived the war and/ or weren't looted by the Soviets). Many records have been digitized lately with the help of EU funds, so you might be lucky to find what you're looking for online.

archiwa.gov.pl
szukajwarchiwach.pl

If you can't narrow it down, you will have to check a lot of church books, I'm afraid. Were your ancestors catholic or Jewish?

Genealogy / Paprotnia Poland 1800-1900 [10]

Try the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild at immigrantships.net/index.html for the Baltimore arrivals, and the Ellis Island web site for NYC. It should be quite easy to obtain high quality copies of the original ship manifests as well as the naturalization records. I would also suggest to search the various census records that are available online.

Did you check the LDS database already?

Genealogy / Polish & Prussian/German town name cross-reference. [100]


Can you post an image? "Berluialius" sounds wrong; definitely not a Prussian/German place name.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


Really? Respect! I thought you spent a few years in the UK.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


No, and it wasn't a tirade either. Have you actually read and understood what I wrote? We have some conservative members here with an unbearable holier-than-thou attitude. They think that a woman has no say when it comes to abortion, yet they are more than happy to get them pregnant without taking the responsibility afterwards. Hypocrites and bigots, the whole lot of them, and your post surely sounded as if you are part of that bunch.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Seems that some catholic men don't mind to get some nookie before marriage and don't care much if having a little fun with their girlfriend has consequences. They refuse to take responsibility and take off; but only after telling their girl that abortion is not an option...

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Keep in mind that this scenario will only be true for one generation. Once the Baby Boomers have passed away, the problem will not be as pressing anymore. What is wrong with a smaller population anyway? Countries like Poland, Germany, France or the UK are way overpopulated considering their area, and life would be much nicer with a little bit more ellbow space for everyone. Corporations will try to reduce their labor costs even further, so there's no need for a large pool of workers anymore. Blue collar jobs are already outsourced to cheap third-world countries.

When politicians complain about population decline, they actually mean the loss of power for them and their country. Shortsighted in my eyes.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


I don't understand why you are putting up a smoke screen here, Iron, and pretend that nothing of what you said has to do with your faith. That's simply not true, and you know it. Just have a look at what the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops had to say about the "Life and Dignity of the Human Person":

usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catholic-social-teaching/life-and-dignity-of-the-human-person.cfm

"The Catholic Church proclaims that human life is sacred..."
"In our society, human life is under direct attack from abortion and euthanasia."

This is exactly your position in this whole discussion.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Who told you that human life is sacred? That's right, the RCC. Back to square one, Iron.


Because I don't agree with the catholic doctrine?


Yup, but that doesn't mean that we cannot talk about it.

News / Poland hopes to attract hard-working, trouble-free immigarnts - Ukrainian, Belarusians and Vietnamese [139]

Unemployment rate 8.8%, youth unemployment rate 16.6%, millions of Poles working abroad - and the government wants to import Ukrainians, Belarusians and Vietnamese? Good luck with that.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Again, it all boils down to the question how far you want to go. There are medical cases for example where the mother would face certain death if she would continue a pregnancy. Is it acceptable for you to kill the woman just to save a one week old conglomerate of cells? Who is worth more? That's an ethical problem. I know that you said that the above would be the only acceptable exception for you, but for many other conservative or fundamentalist Christians out there it is not. What about a girl who got raped by her own father? What about the pope telling people in some overpopulated, HIV ridden hellholes of Africa not to use condoms? It's an ethical dilemma and you will have to answer for yourself whether the lives of people or following your faith is more important to you.


Only to you and a handful of others here on PF, Iron. But that's okay.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Exactly what I said: people like you only care about a woman and her unborn child as long as the mother conforms to your religious belief system. The woman could've been raped or would be killed when going full term, or the fetus could be so severely disabled that it wouldn't survive - you would still insist that an abortion is a sin. It's all about your religion. That's only YOUR view though. If a woman decides to have an abortion, you can of course consider it to be a sin, but her decision is still non of your business.


Not that many here in the US...

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

We all know that certain "concerned" members of PF are not really worried about the mother or the unborn child. It's all about their religion/ faith, and nothing else.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


"Rocket '88" by Jackie Brenston and Ike Turner's Kings of Rhythm was released in January 1951 and is widely considered the first Rock and Roll record.

History / Conscripted to German Army, then the British Polish Free Army. How? [12]


Why? Because I used "Volksdeutsche" instead of "Volksliste"? I don't write lengthy essays about the different categories of the Deutsche Volksliste when there is a thread about that topic already in the archive.

History / Conscripted to German Army, then the British Polish Free Army. How? [12]

Yes, that's the one. Thank you, Chemikiem!

History / Conscripted to German Army, then the British Polish Free Army. How? [12]


You cannot desert from the "Volksdeutsche". These were a group of Polish citizens that were considered ethnic Germans by the Nazis, and as such were conscripted to the German military. You need to read up on the whole concept to really understand what it was all about. There is a longish thread about this topic somewhere in PF's archives, if I recall correctly.


Write to the so-called "Deutsche Dienststelle" in Berlin and provide all relevant information. At the moment, it takes more than a year for them to respond due to the large number of research requests. If they have a military record of your father on file, they will send it to you together with copies of personal documents they might have in their archive (such as an ID card that identified him as "volksdeutsch", his military ID card, and so on).

dd-wast.de/en/home.html


Depends on whom you ask. Many Poles consider(ed) these ethnic Germans (the Volksdeutsche) traitors, and they were treated as such. Since your father fought in the British Polish Free Army, things are most likely a bit different.

History / Conscripted to German Army, then the British Polish Free Army. How? [12]


Probably as a so-called "Volksdeutscher".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutsche#During_World_War_II


Either deserted or captured, then switched sides.

Genealogy / How to find a burial site / records in Poland... [80]


Only if you are looking for ancestors before (about) 1725, and only if your ancestors were not catholic. Otherwise, it's actually quite easy because Polish state archives are digitizing old records with the help of EU funds at the moment, and these records are available for free online.

History / Need Help Identifying This Uniform [21]


Funny that you mention that. My first thought was that the image depicts a postman.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


People should be prohibited ... :)

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

In CA people can't even smoke on the beach anymore. No one is exposed to second hand smoke unless you light a ciggy at home and poison your family.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Killing myself with cigarettes or soda pop is a personal choice. Being killed by a weirdo with a gun is not.

News / Religious extremists advocate murdering gay Polish politician [42]


Don't try to construct some Prussian anti-slavic BS out of this. They couldn't care less at that time whether you were slavic or not. She was burned because they considered her a witch. Equally stupid reason, though.

Genealogy / Records from pre-1914 Będzin and Sosnowiec [10]

Was your father Catholic, Lutheran or Jewish?

familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=66234&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Poland%2C%20Katowice%2C%20Sosnowiec%20(Sosnowiec)%22

jri-poland.org/town/sosnowiec.htm

polishforums.com/genealogy/records-pre-bedzin-sosnowiec-76829

Australia / Polish restaurants, clubs, in Melbourne [17]


That's mutually exclusive. LOL!

Love / Woman 28 single, too late for a relationship with a Polish man? [67]

Ha ha ha. I never needed the "service" of a gold digger because I am happily married.

Love / Woman 28 single, too late for a relationship with a Polish man? [67]

@Lyzko
Yup, I forgot the gold diggers... ;)

Love / Woman 28 single, too late for a relationship with a Polish man? [67]


Nah. The vast majority of teenage girls do not appreciate creepy 44 year old dudes with too much hair.


If you can find one who is willing to date an old fart... :)

Love / Woman 28 single, too late for a relationship with a Polish man? [67]


What will you do when your girlfriend celebrates her 25th birthday? For most teenage girls, you are already a grandpa who's almost dead. ;)