News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]


How do you know all of this?


In one of episodes of that Polish documentary "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" police patrol was called for a guy threatening someone with a knife. Once they arrived it turned out that a father called the police on his son. The son fled the flat earlier. The father said that it's enough for his son to drink one beer to go crazy like that.


If we're talking about attacks on paramedics and medical staff in Poland then I'd say it's the main problem.


But you didn't - it looks like you might have provided false info in case of the "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" TV show.

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Sure, sometimes patients can be in shock, etc. But based on my observations, what I've read, etc. the main problem in Poland is usually alcohol.


You didn't share any confirmed "knowledge" in the case of the origin of "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" TV show though.

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:)))
Thank you for pointing out that incredibly important info, I wouldn't know that without you lol 🙄


To be honest, as long as they're not breaking the law - I don't really care what TV show is based on which TV show.


Maf was asking for a "profile" and from my observation the most typical in Poland is a drunk Polish male.

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Are you sure about that? If any Polish TV show is based on a licensed foreign format then there's usually info on this available. I haven't found anything like that about "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" though:

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niebezpieczne_Dzielnice


Yes, as I wrote in my post above - in Poland it could be anyone male and drunk.


Drunk doctors are being covered by media (I guess it's easier for Polish patients to recognise intoxication with alcohol than being on drugs), so hopefully it's just a matter of time:

wiadomosci.onet.pl/wroclaw/pijany-lekarz-na-sor-ze-w-swidnicy-przyjal-22-pacjentow-nie-ma-zarzutow/mg9lpv9

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That's why I recommended to you watching that TV show "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" if you're interested in this. The type of people Polish police has to deal with (aggressive drunks, etc.) is usually the same type that is likely to attack paramedics and medical staff at hospitals.


A profile?
I don't know if there's any official "profile"... Based on my observations I'd say that in Poland it's usually a white Polish male under the influence of substances (most often alcohol). So, in theory, it could be anyone.

Maf, attacks on paramedics and medical staff (especially at ER) are very common - this is an article from 2024, so from before those two deaths occured:

wpr.pl/wiadomosci/818-ilu-ratownikow-w-roku-2023-doswiadczylo-tzw-aktow-agresji

According to the Jagiellonian University's research from 2018 68% of paramedics experienced physical violence - either from patients or people accompanying the patients. 88% of paramedics experienced verbal aggression and 74% - vandalism.

A fragment from the article (my translation):

"- Physical attacks on paramedics are an every day occurrence. And the summer holidays, which are abundant with opportuities to drink alcohol, facilitate such behaviour - Ireneusz Szafraniec, the chairman elect of the Polish Paramedics Society told PAP a year ago."

The chairman also pointed out that the attackers almost never go to jail for those attacks.

Here you have an incident from January this year:

wiadomosci.onet.pl/warszawa/20-agresywnych-mezczyzn-zaatakowalo-ratownikow-medycznych-pod-warszawa/whp7x17

Paramedics were called to help a guy that was beat up. It was at a birthday party for a 40-year-old guy taking place at a fire station - that's a typical place where you organise parties and potańcówki in Polish villages (this happened was in a village called Żółwin near Warsaw). Paramedics got attacked by 20 drunk men.

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I was thinking that this is how it should be - that the police should arrive first. But it does happen that paramedics get attacked by the patient when he's already in the ambulance and the police has left. So, at least one police officer would have to travel with them in the ambulance to the hospital. I'm not sure how realistic that would be - the police in Poland is already understaffed as it is...


Maf... But what does it have to do with the topic of this thread? Are you saying that paramedics and medical staff at hospitals are being attacked by drunk or/and aggressive patients, because those paramedics and medical staff are on fentanyl and those poor, innocent drunk and aggressive patients are just defending themselves? ;D Or what's your point exactly?

News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]


From what I've read paramedics often didn't report those attacks to the police (probably because they're so common and because the court would qualify it as "znikoma szkodliwość społeczna czynu" anyway). I'm guessing the same was with medical staff at hospitals if none of them got seriously injured. Now that two people got actually killed by patients I can imagine paramedics, nurses and doctors have had enough and they are scared for their lives. And now they're reporting it and talking about it to the media to force some changes in the law and make the public aware of what they're facing almost every day. At least that's my theory. Of course it's possible that there was some increase in those attacks in recent times, but there's nothing uncanny in those attacks themselves.


Eh? Even if that's the case - what does it have to do with patients attacking paramedics or nurses and doctors at hospitals? o_O


Whatever it was based on or inspired by - "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" is the only TV show that shows every day work of Polish police that I'm aware of, so if anyone's interested in that (or in not the best side of the Polish society that they have to deal with ;P) - it's worth watching. The fictionalised Polish TV shows about police are not worth it, I'm afraid - Polish police officers laugh at them lol

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Hmm, I'm not sure what's "odd" about that...

My impression is that many of cases when paramedics or medical staff are being attacked are when they have to deal with drunk people (most often probably). Of course there also people under the influence of drugs and those who are simply aggressive morons or mentally ill. The police officers, just like all first responders (including firefighters) also have to deal with this kind of people and they get attacked by them too, obviously (yes, there are people in Poland dumb enough to attack firefighters, I kid you not...).

If you're interested in this then I recommend watching "Niebezpieczne dzielnice" ("Dangerous Neighbourhoods") on TVN Turbo today evening at 22:20. It's a documentary showing the work of police officers in different cities in Poland in the evening and at night - they're accompanied by a camera crew, they have cameras installed in their cars and the footage from body cams is being shown. It's usually said on the show if the guy arrested was drunk (and how heavily drunk) or whether drugs were found on him (or in the car). Those are actual police interventions - it can't get any more real than this.


Well, that depends on how intoxicated the patients are and what is the level of their aggression/rage... And from what I understand paramedics and other healthcare workers haven't been getting training in self defence. It only started now - after that paramedic got killed in January this year:

tvn24.pl/polska/ataki-na-medykow-w-polsce-oczekiwanie-na-zmiany-prawa-i-szkolenia-z-samoobrony-st8441710

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That's what they get in Poland too though:

help.unhcr.org/poland/rights-and-obligations-of-asylum-seekers/rights-of-applicants-for-international-protection-in-poland/

I'm guessing that's how asylum seekers are also treated in other (civilised) countries...

I think one of the main factors why people choose Germany is because it's a rich country and they think they'll have a good life there. 🤔

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It's nothing new though, imho... They started talking about it, because someone "finally" died... First it was the paramedic killed with a knife by a drunk patient and then that doctor at the hospital - both killed this year.


Not for an infection - from what I've read the murderer thought that the doctor injected him with a poison - he was not right in the head. He was a prison guard, btw. Not long ago another prison guard shot dead his 5-year-old daughter, mother-in-law and tried to kill his 9-year-old son, because he got into an argument with his wife (they were in the middle of a divorce).


What on Earth are you talking about? lol

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Today is the International Firefighters' Day. According to polls firefighters have been viewed as the most respected and trusted profession/social group in Poland for 4 consecutive years. 🚒

And to celebrate their day - here's AJ's 48 hours as a Polish firefighter:

Day 1: Physical entry test + a try at firefighters' contest:



Day 2: The practical stuff - breaking down the doors, getting out an injured person from a damaged car, extinguishing a fire:

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Well, it looks like it's possible that I photographed an aurora. I'm in the city, so it was so faint that I thought it's probably just the glow from the city (city light noise). But someone else took a photo of an aurora outside of Kielce around the same time that I was also taking photos exactly of the same fragment of the sky (under the Cassiopeia constellation), so it must've been an aurora. I decided to take some photos, because I got an alert about K8 level aurora that was supposed to be visible in most of Poland (at least in theory).

This is the photo I'm talking about - taken by Monika Gajos in the vicinity of Kielce:

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Who is "us"? One doesn't have to explain the 966 date to most Poles, especially if put into a historical context - it's the year of the so called "Baptism of Poland" and marks the beginning of Christianization of Poland.

The less known use of this number 966 in Poland - it's a phone number to call if you want to report a terrorist threat, espionage and any other threat to the national security of Poland.

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First of all - relax :) Poles appreciate people who show interest in Polish culture, traditions, history, etc. so I'm sure there's going to be a friendly atmosphere during those meetups :)

Love / I live in the US (born in the US, of Mexican parents) how can I meet a Catholic woman in Poland? [42]


You're welcome :)


Yes, I was thinking about churches too, since you're a Catholic.


That's great. Even if you don't meet any woman there that you'll find interesting maybe you'll make friends and someone will introduce you to a single lady looking for a guy.

Good luck :)

Love / I live in the US (born in the US, of Mexican parents) how can I meet a Catholic woman in Poland? [42]

@coffeeman, Novichok is a deranged psycho and a hypocrite, don't listen to anything he says lol


So why did you marry a Polish woman yourself? :D

Love / I live in the US (born in the US, of Mexican parents) how can I meet a Catholic woman in Poland? [42]

@coffeeman, if you live in some big city you could, for example, look for some Polish cultural center, some Polish shop, events connected to Polish culture - where Poles and Polish-Americans are likely to hang around.


*to get to know

Love / I live in the US (born in the US, of Mexican parents) how can I meet a Catholic woman in Poland? [42]

Btw:


You know, there are quite a lot of Polish people and Americans with Polish roots who uphold Polish traditions living in the US. Is there no Polish community where you live? You could try to connect with them and see if you like anyone there or maybe it would help you to get Poles and Polish culture better - just a thought. 🤔

Off-Topic / What's your hobby? [191]


Thank you for the explanation! :)


o_O

Could you maybe elaborate on that? ;D

Love / I live in the US (born in the US, of Mexican parents) how can I meet a Catholic woman in Poland? [42]


Tell them that you'd like to move to Poland and see the reaction :)


European women, especially from the non-Southern parts of the continent, often are into Hispanic-looking men.
But, you know, considering that you're 46 and if you're not attractive yourself - don't expect that stunning model-like looking and very young women will be throwing themselves at you just because you're from the US or something (in case that's what you expect from an "Eastern European country").

Here's a YouTube channel of a guy from Latin America - he married a Polish woman and lives in Poland - he gives a lot of info about cultural differences and such, maybe you'll find it useful:

Off-Topic / What's your hobby? [191]


In Poland we call such a person "złota rączka" (golden hand) :)


I'm interested in interior design and I love watching house renovation/makeover shows on TV - your story reminded me of some of them where they would always find some kind of "surprises" of this kind :))) Btw, how old is your building?


I can understand that. When I was at high school I studied a lot and at some point I had really enough of sitting at home all the time with my head in the books. It was almost suffocating. In those moments I was dreaming of being at my grandma's place in the countryside and digging my hands into the soil and breathing the fresh countryside air *sigh*


Nothing beats making something with your hands though :)))

History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [227]

@Bobko, it's a pity that you don't seem to be worried about RuSSian souls at all.


Yes, what a bizzare case. Divers had to risk their lives to get their bodies out of that place.


Are you also talking about your Serbian Putinist friends greening when posting videos of Ukrainian soldiers getting killed or when posting the news of foreign volunteers to be executed by RuSSia?


Now wait a minute - you claimed that Poles on this forum don't do that, unlike the Westerners, according to you. So have you suddenly changed your mind about this? :)))

Off-Topic / What's your hobby? [191]


What is that exactly? 🤔


What does that mean?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


Maybe share a bit about that in the hobby thread? :):

https://polishforums.com/off-topic/hobby-87293/6/


Those seeds are for my grandma - she lives in the countryside, she has a garden and is a flower whisperer, so they're going to be in good hands :)))

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]

@Barney, yes, bingo! :))) This selection of seeds is called "łąka kwiatowa" or "łąka kwietna" in Polish (flower meadow). An apiarian shop in my city was giving such bags with wild flowers seeds for free to celebrate the first day of spring, so people would plant them in their gardens and help the bees in this way :) 🐝

So I think the seed from photo A must be "nagietek polny" - Calendula arvensis - in English commonly known also as field marigold.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]

@Barney, yes, that's exactly what it is! :D

Btw, I forgot to mention that both things in photos A and B belong to the same group, so in the photo B it's also a seed. The one in photo B is probably also a calendula seed.

Those seeds are part of an assortment of seeds belonging to a certain type of plants. Can you guess what type of plants are they?

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Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]

@Joker, nope, it doesn't have anything to do with the ocean :)

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]

Next riddle - what are those?:

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Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


That's even cooler :)))


Yes, exactly! :)))

The one with the double contrail is Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker (a flying gas station) accompanied by fighter jets - they were flying over Poland a few days ago.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 3 [818]


Cool!


Yes! :)


Yes, that may be one of the reasons, but have you noticed anything about those contrails?