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Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland ?


Kashub1410 6 | 684
9 Jun 2023 #151
@johnny reb
I mean, your not going to convince me about being ungrateful. When I am grateful, just busy.

If your upset about me being "formally" ungrateful take it up with the Polish embassy and not with posters here on this forum. Few posters here are paid to post anything
Poloniusz 4 | 768
6 Jun 2024 #153
Interesting article on Poles who fought on D-Day.

Discover the important role of Poland's military during the Normandy landings and the Allied invasion of mainland Europe.

Polish airmen and several Polish ships took part in missions on D-Day protecting the landing operations. The 1st Polish Armoured Division landed later in the campaign and played a critical role in the battle of the Argentan-Falaise Pocket and in opening the way for the Allies to liberate Paris.

poland.pl/history/historical-events/4-things-you-need-know-about-d-day/

We honor them and scores of Polonia who heroically fought and won the battle and ultimately the war.
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
6 Jun 2024 #154
D-Day was the turning point of the war.
Those American boys who stormed the beaches at Normandy sacrificed the ultimate for Europe.
The paratroopers that jumped from planes at night in the dark to come in behind the enemy lines had brass balls.
We thank them all for the freedoms we enjoy today.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
6 Jun 2024 #155
Never again...Nothing in Europe was and is worth one American life.

If there is the next time, GFY and fight your own damn wars, Euros...
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
6 Jun 2024 #156
Nothing in Europe was and is worth one American life.

You wouldn't be enjoying the freedom of living in the greatest country on earth if that were true.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
6 Jun 2024 #157
Future immigration to the US and Americans dying on the beaches of Europe do not connect in any cause-and-effect way.
If the US never entered WW2, all your rights and freedoms would stay intact. No, nobody here would have to speak German.
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
7 Jun 2024 #158
Future immigration to the US

We are not talking about future immigration, we are talking about you not having the freedoms you have today.

If the US never entered WW2, all your rights and freedoms would stay intact.

We are not talking about my freedoms, we are talking about yours.
Now please stay on topic and quit speaking as an ex-pat for Americans that lost family and friends for your freedoms.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #159
we are talking about yours.

and friends for your freedoms.

No American died for my freedom. In fact, Poland was under Soviet control with the approval of a US president.

My freedom came in stages...

Stage 1: The Red Army gave me my freedom from the Germans in 1945.
Stage 2: The Polish government let me go to Western Europe in 1966.
Stage 3: The US government let me move from the Netherlands to the US.

Do I enjoy my freedom and my rights in the US just as you do? Yes!!! Especially, the right to speak freely I would not have in Europe.

Nothing to do with the Americans dying in Normandy in 1944.

Back to this anniversary...Never again should Americans be sent to another continent to defend others. Sending men to die for a principle or "freedom and democracy" is criminal.

Men were endowed with strength and the ability to endure for only one reason: to defend their families - individually and collectively. Not slogans...

Never since the US was created, were you at risk of losing your rights as guaranteed by the US Constitution.
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
7 Jun 2024 #160
No American died for my freedom.

If that is what you want to believe then that is your freedom to do so but please don't promote and try to indoctrinate us with your opinion.

Nothing to do with the Americans dying in Normandy in 1944.

Rich, I like you in many ways but could punch you in your face for being so unpatriotic to a country that you have enjoyed to live in because of American men and women's ultimate sacrifices for.

No human in their right mind could stand by and watch what was happening in Europe.
You never wore a uniform for any country so I can understand why you can't understand patriotic pride.

Never since the US was created, were you at risk of losing your rights as guaranteed by the US Constitution.

Horseshit Rich, you bang on about losing your Second Amendment Rights constantly here.
And I am not going to get into a three week pis sing contest with you about what a great ex-pat American you are and turn it around about me.

My opinion is, "I don't care how you got here, but I do care when you start talking sht about what my family sacrificed for you to be able to do it."

Now, please for my sake, get the hell out of this thread and stay out of it.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #161
If that is what you want to believe

This is a fact. No American died for me.

During WW2, the majority of Americans died because the US government ordered them to fight in Europe for Europe. They never fought for the US since the US was never threatened.

Your participation in WW2 was 100% voluntary and had nothing to do with me personally. So please don't tell me that some men are dead for my benefit.

If you do, they died for every single human being on the globe. When they were fighting and dying in Europe, I wasn't even born.

Neither did they know that one day I would apply to immigrate to the US.

Rich, I like you in many ways but could punch you in your face for being so unpatriotic to a country

Unpatriotic??? Are you out of you fvcking mind?

Never again should Americans be sent to another continent to defend and die for others.

This is patriotism at its very best. Before the US went to Europe, many Americans were against it, That is why Roosevelt beamed when the Japs hit PH. He finally got his reason to join WW2. He expressed his joy in a call to Churchill. "We got it!", he said.

If your attitude about dying in foreign lands is different than mine, start with the upper limit...

How many dead Americans would be too many? 500,000? 1 million? 5 million?

Poetry and pathos are always easy. Numbers are a bit*ch. Especially when counting coffins.
Ironside 50 | 12,467
7 Jun 2024 #162
o American died for me.

But they accepted your sorry Soviet ass and that was their mistake. lol!
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Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #163
Yes, they did because of Sputnik 1. The USSR was very helpful even in getting me into the US...You know...brain drain...
BTW, Sputnik 1 was launched in 1957 and was the first. Those dumb Mongols...stole the blueprints from somewhere...
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
7 Jun 2024 #164
No American died for my freedom.

Yes Rich, we all heard you the first ten times

If that is what you want to believe then that is your freedom to do so

I am not going to get into a three week pis sing contest

How did I know, go argue with the guy in the mirror
Now, please for my sake, get the hell out of this thread and stay out of it or at least stay on topic.
Ironside 50 | 12,467
7 Jun 2024 #165
Yes Rich, we all heard you the first ten times

Don't you think he has dementia?
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
7 Jun 2024 #166
Yes, the first stages but not as bad as biden does.
I still like him though.
I am only a few years behind and then it will be my turn to drive people nuts.
Then it will be your turn.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #167
Don't you think he has dementia?

Out of respect for this thread, I will not ask you if you have syphilis.

The difference between me and many of you is that I developed 100% immunity to emotional propaganda. This includes Western bullshlt like this:

- better dead than red
- if we don't fight them there, we will have to fight them here
- they died for freedom and democracy
- they died for peace and future generations
- if we don't fight Germans there, we will be speaking German here
- Russia will invade Western Europe
- Western "democracies" are democracies
- NATO is a mutual defense organization

Now pay attention...One more time:

Man's sole mission is to defend his woman and his kids. Beyond that, a man is an expendable tool.

To be called a hero, he has to volunteer to risk his life to save another life. Being drafted and shipped to Europe was not heroism.

Later, voluntarily risking his life to save his wounded friend is the ultimate in heroism.

Are we OK now?
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #168
Memo to American Veterans: Ask the DC mother fvckers why many of you are homeless while illegal garbage - aka asylum seekers - is enjoying upscale hotels...

Let me know what they said....
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,199
7 Jun 2024 #169
@Ironside
I find it humurous and ironic that of all the posters on this forum. He reminds me of Biden the most
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
7 Jun 2024 #170
If that is what you want to believe then that is your freedom to do so but please don't promote and try to indoctrinate us with your opinion.

And I am not going to get into a three week pis sing contest with you about what a great ex-pat American you are

Name one other country that would want you in this world........besides Russia.
There is your answer.
Alien 21 | 5,260
7 Jun 2024 #171
.besides Russia

Russians are currently reacting allergically to Americans
Miloslaw 20 | 4,813
7 Jun 2024 #172
- better dead than red
- if we don't fight them there, we will have to fight them here
- they died for peace and future generations
- Western "democracies" are democracies
- NATO is a mutual defense organization

None of that is "Western Bullshit", it's all just common sense!
You really are losing it Rich.......
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #173
You really are losing it Rich.......

I am not losing anything. This crap:

- better dead than red
- if we don't fight them there, we will have to fight them here
- they died for freedom and democracy
- they died for peace and future generations
- if we don't fight Germans there, we will be speaking German here
- Russia will invade Western Europe

...is all US propaganda to justify the deaths and the blood money MICC rakes in when men are dying for any reason somewhere.

No other country says it and spends itself into bankruptcy.

When was the US threatened militarily? China was. Japan was. So did the USSR, Poland, and Germany. Yet, it's the US that spends 40% of the entire world's military budget and almost three times as much as China and Russia, combined...

I didn't invent the term MIC. It was Eisenhower - the most celebrated US general in the last century. Was he losing it, Milo?

He reminds me of Biden the most

Look, you stupid Polak...How about responding to my posts instead of hiding behind personal insults...You know damn well that it's impossible to respond to insults by a moron like you.
Miloslaw 20 | 4,813
7 Jun 2024 #174
When was the US threatened militarily?

Pearl Harbour?

I didn't invent the term MIC

What does it mean then in your "American English"? for me, it means microphone.....
OP johnny reb 50 | 7,216
7 Jun 2024 #175
Now, please for my sake, get the hell out of this thread and stay out of it or at least stay on topic.

Four rants later and he is STILL posting off topic.
First stage of dementia Rich.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #176
Bullshit. Dementia is bad short memory. I remember everything - including telling you not to fvck with me or get personal in any way.

You wouldn't be enjoying the freedom of living in the greatest country on earth if that were true.

That was a patronizing slapdown. Don't ever do it again.
Joker 2 | 2,243
7 Jun 2024 #177
Four rants later and he is STILL posting off topic.

Too bad your fantasy of ever becoming a mod has imploded. Its not your responsibility to police these threads. Use your snitch button or did they take it away again for being a pain in the ass?
Novichok 4 | 7,924
7 Jun 2024 #178
Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland?
Everything that would shorten WW2 was significant. To Poland, Stalingrad was more significant than D-Day.
Miloslaw 20 | 4,813
7 Jun 2024 #179
To Poland, Stalingrad and Kursk were more significant than D-Day.

I am not so sure, Poles fought to the end and always hoped for a better outcome than Russian domination.
Novichok 4 | 7,924
8 Jun 2024 #180
hoped for a better outcome than Russian domination.

I will take domination over Auschwitz every day of the week. The Red Army closed Auschwitz. Good enough for me.


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