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Maxxx Payne   
27 Dec 2007
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

sthatu wrote:
Yes,he leaves a lot out though(Poles will know what ...)

I think a big part of Polands reaction to this is due to most of the talk of what happened the Jewish "Holocaust" were the victims. When will the world see it was "Poland" that paid the price. Not Jewish, Germany, Russia or Ukraine. I guess because they left the name Poland behind Communist it's not seen as clear as it was. No Poland did not loose a small piece they lost their country.

Carol

Well it was the Jews who were to be killed automatically, Poles had the "priviledge" to serve as slaves to Germans after a massive sterilization program. In German occupied territory in it was more dangerous to be a Jew than a Pole.

dont get me wrong, I have great admiration for Poles, they never gave up or chose the easy path.
you are right in the part that Poland as country suffered most compared to other countries in Europe.
Maxxx Payne   
27 Dec 2007
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

If we look at individual Germans, there was actually quite a number of victims. T-4 euthanisia program killed thousands of German disabled.
But when Germany as a nation calls itself as victim, it is just plain wrong.
Maxxx Payne   
9 Dec 2007
History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]

BTW, happy Indipendance Day Finland :) (not sure from who your celebrating about but,ho hum...)

thank you, Poland won the war but lost their independence (sort of) Finland lost the war but maintained their independce (partially at least). Following the right path as Poland did is not the easy way.

I have never received any bad-mouthing of Finlands participation in WW II from either British or Polish so I guess they understand our situation at the time.
Maxxx Payne   
16 Nov 2007
History / Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish [532]


Whatever... I hope you are not representing Magyar majority, otherwise i would be ashamed shamed related to you (i am finn, you know related languages vér=veri=blood, kéz=käsi=hand)

You really should chill out man !!!
Maxxx Payne   
30 Sep 2007
Polonia / Polonia in scandinavian countries [23]

Two baptist churches in a small, well-to-do English village I know look upon eachother as infidels!

Yes, but this happens in much smaller scale than Muslim vs others and baptists rarely are rarely aggressive towards others. Christian Fundamentalism etc. may be annoying but rarely violent and dangerous.

I know a small number of Bahais who came from Iran and Iraq. Their religion, being much younger than either Islam or Christianity (neither is it a dodgy sect) is being legislated against in Iran, Egypt, and probably a few other Islamic countries too. These countries' views on much older religions such as Zoroastrianism, seem to be slightly better, but they have a long way to go.

This what I was talking about, for example Bahais rarely have superiority complexes towards others, they know how it feels to discriminated against.

I don't think the age-old mixture of Finns, Swedes and Sami has been able to teach the Finnish state much about different ethnic groups or different cultures making Finland their home. But I'd be interested to find out more, as I find Finland to be an intereseting country.

There has been other groups as well, Jews, Muslim Tatars and Russians have integrated well to Finland. WW II even intensified their acceptance to society: they fought along with ethnic Finns and Finn-Swedes.

Unfortunately, there are no simple answers.

yes and the sad thing is immigrants who do adapt to the society suffer from the actions of those who dont adapt.

I don't think the age-old mixture of Finns, Swedes and Sami has been able to teach the Finnish state much about different ethnic groups or different cultures making Finland their home. But I'd be interested to find out more, as I find Finland to be an intereseting country.

well there is one bad thing resulting for Finnish inbreeding: we are not very good-looking people compared to our neighbors ;D
Maxxx Payne   
30 Sep 2007
Polonia / Polonia in scandinavian countries [23]

Crime is commited by people, not by vast swathes of humamnkind that share certain characteristics or origins.
I don't know how it works in Finland - my experience is with the UK.
It is the fault of the state that accepts these people, ghettoises them, prevents them from working, pushes them into the benefits system so that when they can work, they've not encouraged to.

I am myself not rascist: I dont dislike anyone for their etnicity, skincolor etc, but culturally I dont like Muslims much. In Muslim countries other religions are not looked well upon, Christians and Jews a bit better than the Buddhists or Hindus for example, but they are still infindels who are supposed to pay special tax for just being non-Muslim. Islamic majority and real multi-culturality are mutally exclusive in real life. I dont see how all the Muslim people coming to West are just going to abandon this attitude when moving here. You must have read about how teachers in British schools are afraid of teaching about the Holocaust because that could "offend Muslims". And didnt Muslim community in Canada demand Sharia law to their neighborhoods.
Maxxx Payne   
30 Sep 2007
Polonia / Polonia in scandinavian countries [23]

Osiol, Finland is still one of those countries, which generally suffers very little, when it comes to crime by foreigners.
It's completely different on the other side of the Baltic, in Sweden, fx.

but our pc liberal politicians are doing their best to change this country into Finlandistan according to the "Swedish paradise". I really cant see how a Muslim Arab could adapt better to our society than the Poles.

Finland had a Polish queen for a while: Katariina Jagellonica (Katarzyna Jagiellonka) and current head Finnish Catholic Church is Polish: Jozsef Wrobel.

I think Finnish population in general feel symptathetic to Poles but our liberal newspapers are constantly badmouthing Poland. P*sses me off..
Maxxx Payne   
17 Sep 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

There might be truth to this, Russia is land of vast spaces, if one didnt like the government and its rule there was always space ito migrate. Thats why aboriginal people of Siberia could maintain their way of life, until communist rule I think ?
Maxxx Payne   
9 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Polish girls 'too pretty' for British schools [150]

But you have to agree that Muslim cultures are very hypocritical in this respect. Men can date western women but women cant date western men. That is one of the reasons why I am not very keen on increased Muslim immigration to Europe.

I dont know much about Hindus thought cos there arent many in my country (Finland)
Maxxx Payne   
8 Sep 2007
News / Poland torpedoes EU Day Against Death Penalty [71]

Poland was the only EU country which did not support a proposal by the European Commission to establish a European Day Against the Death Penalty. The Polish representation argued there was no need for such a day because all EU countries had abolished capital punishment.

polskieradio.pl/zagranica/gb/dokument.aspx?iid=58140

I am quite against death penalty but is good to see that liberal PC crowd are not getting their ways all the time.
Maxxx Payne   
12 Aug 2007
News / Poland biggest problem [125]

Polish biggest problem - lack of unity and lack of responsibilty for fellow countrymen

I dont think this is true. Poles do have strong sense of compassion and humanity for their people. Dont know if this is because Polish Catholic Church or something else.
Maxxx Payne   
27 Jul 2007
USA, Canada / Americans who call themselves Polish - how do you feel about that? [112]

Hmmm...this issue is a coin: two sides I mean:

a) US draws its strength from its European heritage, so there is nothing wrong with being Polish-American, Irish-American etc...
b) "there are no hyphenated Americans" as T. Roosevelt & John Wayne put it. There can be loyalty to only one country when in US, and that is the US
Maxxx Payne   
22 Jul 2007
History / Are irregulars necessary in former communist states? [14]

State irregulars is one of the most inportant obstacles for extremism and totalitarism

I think we basically agree on this, perhaps it is military(irregular or regular) that attracts the exteremists in general more than rest of population. Thats why everyone should take part, even pacifists.
Maxxx Payne   
22 Jul 2007
News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

Quoting: Kaczor Duck
I was beaten when I was a kid...I was molested...I didnt grow up in the best neighborhood..WA WA WA WA..always crying.

The Poles are masters of this technique! :)

Somehow I cant think any major Polish crimes against humanity, while I don't have to look so far to find German ones...
Maxxx Payne   
22 Jul 2007
History / Are irregulars necessary in former communist states? [14]

I think irregulars are beneficial "balancing factor" to the country. Regular is usually controlled by the political majority, causing the minority to be left out ruling the military. Bad thing is that irregulars also attract extremists and rascists. Maybe the Swiss model where everyone after military has to own a gun, that way everyone is forced to take some part in military even if they dont like it. So it is just not the extremists.

One of the biggest problems for USA is that it is not popular for middle classes take part of military service. In ideal society every level of society is represented in the military
Maxxx Payne   
20 Jul 2007
News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

By the way, neo-Nazsm is alive also in Poland, but not among the Poles, only among part of Silesians - those of them with separatistic pro-german tendencies (supported and controlled, no doubt, by the german secret service).

Do you mean the German-Silesians: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_German
Maxxx Payne   
20 Jul 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

As to Suomi mistakes, I shall mention its participation in that hunger blocade and cynic cooperation with Soviet power in 1960-80 not only by fear but by economic interest

Hunger blockade ? No, Finland did have internation camps in Eastern Karelia, but there was no participation in siege of Leningrad, Field Marshall Mannerheim was asked by Germans to take part but he refused.

But anyway thanks for your comments, we shall continue it by email.

sorry for OT again
Maxxx Payne   
19 Jul 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Ok, sorry off-topic, I'll end my part here but tell last: Finland was not a German ally in 1939 by any means, even the far-righted Finnish condemned Germany for taking over Czech in 1938 and like said, UK and France supported Finnish fight and even promised troops as did Polish. Almost everyone else but Germany supported Finnish. What happened after the Winter War is another story, and Finland really did some bad choices and we paid costly for those in the end.
Maxxx Payne   
17 Jul 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

All people who made revolution were killed exept very few personalities. Without any interest to ethnicity. It is a French revolution phenomenon: Revolution eats its sons

Yes, and Stalin didn't like any of his "old friends" to be around because they could use something in his past against him.
Maxxx Payne   
17 Jul 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Preventive ? Yeah sure...Like German invasion of then neutral Dutch, Belgium. They were also pre-emptive ? Invading them before British could... Finland was similarly neutral.

Stalin wanted to enslave Finland like he did with Baltics, it was just that a) war became too costly for SU b) France and UK had also promised help to Finnish.

Despite this I really cant hate Russian people, it was Soviet Union that caused whole thing.

Puzzler, you are discussing Russians as citizens of Russian Empire? Russian Empire gone away before.

finnish were also vocal communist movement (also in the american communist movement). But Stalin didn't trust them and killed most of them 30s. But one was pretty influential even after Stalins death: Otto Ville Kuusinen, perhaps you have heard/read about him. And Lenin was hiding in Finland just before revolution...
Maxxx Payne   
5 Jul 2007
Love / Foreigner's opinion about polish ladies [304]

They are cheap and that's why the market demand is increasing.

Why are the Ukrainian women so represented in sex biz then, compared to Polish women.
I don't mean it is a bad thing but...
Maxxx Payne   
4 Jul 2007
News / A thought on Poland! [140]

WTF ??? How this can be seen as Holocaust Denial ? Comparing abortion and Holocaust may be bad taste but that is a whole another matter.

Isaac B. Singer said once "When it comes to treating animals, all people are nazis."
Is that statement Holocaust denial also...
Maxxx Payne   
3 Jul 2007
News / A thought on Poland! [140]

Like the US did with their Atom-Bomb...new technology to reach the goals.

If Germans would have developed atom bomb it would have been used surely more than twice as it was with US. US never tried to exterminate/enslave whole nations or peoples. And no, dont start with the USA & Native Americans, there was never a systematic plan to kill them all.

Do you think it made a big difference to the victims if they were gassed or clubbed to death???

The gassing exemplies the systematicness and industrialization of the killing. It is carefully planned with all the blueprints etc. It is different than going into village with machete's in rage like it was with Ruanda.
Maxxx Payne   
19 Jun 2007
News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

There was also an Jewish nazi in New York in 60s. They made a movie of him: The Believer

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Burros

So it is really nothing new. Mind works in weird ways...