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WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland


noimmigration  
30 Nov 2007 /  #1
On September 1, 1939 German troops swarmed across the Polish border and unleashed the first Blitzkrieg the world had seen. Hitler had been planning his attack since March - ever since German troops occupied the remainder of Czechoslovakia. The Poles suspected as much and readied their defenses. Unfortunately the Poles based their defensive strategy on the experiences of World War I. Mobility was crucial - mobility provided by cavalry troops the Poles considered the best in the world. Indeed, their horsemen were probably the world's best - but horses offered little defense against tanks.

eyewitnesstohistory.com/vocham.htm
slick77 - | 127  
30 Nov 2007 /  #2
What except sending an ultimatum to Hitler did British government do to help Poland?

One could say that we were good with horses but British were even better with sending ultimatums.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
30 Nov 2007 /  #3
That article fails to mention two crucial points:

1. Poland was barely 20 years old, after 120+ years of occupation by 3 countries.

2.Chamberlain warned Poland not to modernize their forces (or the military pact between UK and Poland would be off) because that would send "the wrong signal" to Hitler. Chamberlain did that even though Poles by then had sufficient evidence that Germans would in fact attack Poland. The evidence was obtained thanks to Polish Enigma code brakers, the same Enigma that Brits would later try to claim the sole credit for breaking it.
plk123 8 | 4,149  
30 Nov 2007 /  #4
after 120+ years of occupation by 3 countries.

123y

ultimatums are like farts in the wind if you don't back up your words with some action and unfortunately the brits must have had some beans just before that.
Wroclaw Boy  
30 Nov 2007 /  #5
brits must have had some beans just before that.

I think its blatantly obvious that we (BRITISH) didnt want to go to war at that time. However we did step up to the plate when need be.
slick77 - | 127  
30 Nov 2007 /  #6
I think its blatantly obvious that we (BRITISH) didnt want to go to war at that time.

Yes, I agree. It was obvious.

However we did step up to the plate when need be.

I belive that Americans helped you a bit with that "setting up to the plate".
Wroclaw Boy  
30 Nov 2007 /  #7
I belive that Americans helped you a bit with that "setting up to the plate".

Ya later on though we stood alone for two years.
slick77 - | 127  
30 Nov 2007 /  #8
A lot of Polish pilots died helping you.
Wroclaw Boy  
30 Nov 2007 /  #9
After Hitler conquored France his aim turned towards Britian had he won the battle of the air he would have invaded us and who knows what would have happened after that. As it was our superior Navy power and air force forefronted by the Spitfire and Hurricane somewhat spolied his plans. As a result he then made up some story of the whole battle being a big disguise for the real battle which was operation barbarossa " the invasion of Russia ".

Thats it folks.
Polson 5 | 1,770  
30 Nov 2007 /  #10
A lot of Polish pilots died helping you

Yes...but i don't think he (noimmigration) knows much about history, and respect for those who fought for Europe.
It's a chance, most Brits are not like you.
Wroclaw Boy  
30 Nov 2007 /  #11
A lot of Polish pilots died helping you.

Helping you, helping you actually and avenging their loved ones. The Poles fighting for England actually started shooting down German pilots after they had bailed out. Then the Germans obviously started shooting down allied Pilots after they had bailed out.

A lot of Polish pilots died helping you.

Ok Helping us in what way??

Polish Pilots were helping themselves and avenging their loved ones. At the time we could use the pilots nothing else.

Helping us PLEASE!!
slick77 - | 127  
30 Nov 2007 /  #12
It's a chance, most Brits are not like you.

I really hope so.
Polson 5 | 1,770  
30 Nov 2007 /  #13
Ok Helping us in what way??

They fought along the other allies ?? Of course they wanted to avenge their country ! What would you do if you were in their case ?? Your country has been attacked, your people has been killed, your cities destroyed, etc. Isn't it a human feeling ? But the fact is that they helped. I even saw a Dutch poster who said "thank you Poles" because Polish soldiers freed their city...And what about the D-day ? Poles were there too, don't forget that !
plk123 8 | 4,149  
30 Nov 2007 /  #14
I think its blatantly obvious that we (BRITISH) didnt want to go to war at that time. However we did step up to the plate when need be.

you mean your old colonies actually came through to save your bum? :D

Polish Pilots were helping themselves and avenging their loved ones. At the time we could use the pilots nothing else.

next time i sure hope we're not there to save your arses from the bombs.
Firestorm 6 | 400  
30 Nov 2007 /  #15
German dominated Sudetenland area of Czechoslovakia into the German Third Reich in 1938. In March of the next year he occupied the remainder of Czechoslovakia

Bolstered by the lack of a forceful response by Britain or France, Hitler set his sights on Poland. However, British Prime Minister Chamberlain had come to the realization that Hitler's territorial ambitions could not be tempered by submitting to his demands. In March 1939 he declared that Britain guaranteed Poland's independence and vowed to come to her aid if attacked. France soon joined Britain in support of Poland.

The assault was originally scheduled to begin in the early morning hours of August 26th. However, on August 25th, Britain announced that her guarantee of Polish independence had been formalized by an alliance between the two countries. Hitler wavered and postponed his attack to September 1.

eyewitnesstohistory.com/ultimatum.htm

Why all This ******** and backstabbing.??
It Isnt about Apportioning Blame. Or about Who did or didnt do the most.
The Polish Government Escaped to britain.
Along with a massive amount of Free Polish Troops.
Airmen And soldiers.
So that they could Return to Free there country and Drive out the Nazis.

TOGETHER.
We Joined forces And fought of the Best that Germany could throw against us.
Polish troops Were active in almost every assault against German Armed forces..
On Land Sea and Air.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
1 Dec 2007 /  #16
Helping you, helping you actually and avenging their loved ones. The Poles fighting for England actually started shooting down German pilots after they had bailed out. Then the Germans obviously started shooting down allied Pilots after they had bailed out.

- Where did you take this info from, mate? What books? Please, share the titles and authors' names with me. Thanks in advance. So the Poles are to blame for the German shootings down of 'allied Plots' (sic)? Wow, I didn't know that one. What else are the Poles to be blamed for? Please, enlighten me.

:)
PS. What is your nationality, if I may know? May I show your your posts (translated by me) on some Polish-language websites? I hope you don't mind it? You can be famous, you know. ;)
krysia 23 | 3,057  
1 Dec 2007 /  #17
Its been over 50 years ago how about it Puzzy?
do you still live in the past

let it go already
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
1 Dec 2007 /  #18
Its been over 50 years ago how about it Puzzy

- Krysia, darling, what do you mean? Why pick on moi, krysia? Or do you mean noimmigraton started pettin' his sheep 50 years ago? It'd be a long and praiseworthy relationship, wouldn't you say?

;)

let it go already

- Let go what? Aren't you a bit prejudiced towards Puzzy? Maybe it's you who oughta let it go, eh?
krysia 23 | 3,057  
1 Dec 2007 /  #19
Krysia, darling, what do you mean? Why pick on moi, krysia? Or do you mean noimmigraton started pettin' his sheep 50 years ago? It'd be a long and praiseworthy relationship, wouldn't you say?

You have turned into a fool or a bad novelty in my eyes

I`m sick of what I`ve seen you post here latley
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
1 Dec 2007 /  #20
You have turned into a fool or a bad novelty in my eyes

- Why would I turn so?

I`m sick of what I`ve seen you post here latley

- What in my posts have made you so sick and why? Any specific examples? I can see you better digest the hateful post regularly here? A fine Polish woman you must be (if you're Polish at all).
krysia 23 | 3,057  
1 Dec 2007 /  #21
(if you're Polish at all).

Yes I am !!

My Russian friend
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
1 Dec 2007 /  #22
My Russian friend

- Well, I am not your friend in the first place, and I'm not Russian either. You're confusing me with somebody else.

Oh, so you've got Russian friends?
:)
PS. As for your being allegedly Polish, save us God from such Poles.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
1 Dec 2007 /  #23
noimmigration

I can't believe the troll managed to get 26 posts out of this one so far - now I can expect the forums to be filled with a lot more Polish are stupid, ugly, drain on society etc etc threads now.....
Polson 5 | 1,770  
1 Dec 2007 /  #24
I can't believe the troll managed to get 26 posts out of this one so far

Insulting trolls is a nice pastime... ;)
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
1 Dec 2007 /  #25
I can't believe the troll managed to get 26 posts out of this one so far

- But he hasn't fooled us, has he? Greetings to you, man.
:)

It's a ''nice' exchange here, anyways. The ageless topic - did the Brits help Poles, or not? - The (based on facts) aswer is: yes, they did the best they could do in the given circumstances. Britain could not send her army to Poland, but she loyally declared war on Germany and stuck up to it. And, repeating after George Orwell: it's good that Britain didn't join Hitler, but stepped out against Nazi Germany.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
1 Dec 2007 /  #26
WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland

but fails..........
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
1 Dec 2007 /  #27
but fails..........

- Yes and no. It's not that black-and-white, I dare think. Moreover, we're friends now, which might not have been possible if we, or you, had joined Hitler.
Polson 5 | 1,770  
1 Dec 2007 /  #28
Hehe, another war ? ;)
Please, Brits, move your a.s.s.e.s and save us ! haha

;)
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
1 Dec 2007 /  #29
puzz, dont get me started :)

Please, Brits, move your a.s.s.e.s and save us ! haha

sorry,to busy helping the septics in the desert,can you call back in 30 odd years?
Polson 5 | 1,770  
1 Dec 2007 /  #30
What do you mean isthatu ?...

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