Return PolishForums LIVE
  PolishForums Archive :
Archives - 2005-2009 / News  % width 125

Poland biggest problem


magda09 1 | 54  
8 Aug 2007 /  #1
i see here so may praises :), i was interested to know what you think is our biggest problem! our biggest negative ... our worse aspect ! feel free to share :)
hello 22 | 891  
8 Aug 2007 /  #2
Corruption on many levels.

Old-fashioned business laws that hinder development and promote bureaucracy.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
8 Aug 2007 /  #3
all the above plus a deep ingrained mentality born from years in a system that didnt prepare for a free and competitive life

plus you gotsta learn to drive otherwise youll end up killing each other by accident... and that aint smart...
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
8 Aug 2007 /  #4
our biggest problem!

Not enough cash.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
8 Aug 2007 /  #5
Do It yourself left side fag.

mate... if you want to kill yourselves on the road it aint my problem... you just all be dead muthafukers and that aint no thang to me

Not enough cash.

true... costs alot sweeping up dead muthafukers by the side of the road
Zeze  
8 Aug 2007 /  #6
it is own people !!!
Kilkline 1 | 689  
8 Aug 2007 /  #7
Lack of confidence in their abilities is a problem.
Poles are often educated and have the neccessary cultural
background to fit in Anglo-saxon business practices but
seem to doubt their own abilties.

I think this is changing though as I see more and more Poles
in office jobs rather than manual ones.

Another problem is that Polish men really need to stop
cutting their own hair.

And ban moustaches.
dasla - | 52  
8 Aug 2007 /  #8
yes the polish girls are far more stylish than then men.from my experience.
and o so pretty x
donomar 1 | 23  
8 Aug 2007 /  #9
1) mentality
2) jeaulosity
3) hit hard by capitalism
4) uncritical stance against the church
Michal - | 1,865  
8 Aug 2007 /  #10
I could mention a few thing here. One of the worst things about Poland and the Poles is that they never accept responsibility for anything. It does not matter what it is, they always find an external force to blame. In my day it was always Churchill who was responsible for the Russians or the weather! The Polish never have any financial common sense. They never think about tomorrow and know how to save and invest. They also have very little civil pride in themselves, a quick view of modern day Poland shows you that! The Poles are a very jealous people. They moan when they have nothing themselves yet are the biggest snobs when they start to move up the property ladders! they are big church goers which surprises me as there is nothing Christian about them. They will come out of church on a Sunday from a church service and walk right a dying man in the street! It is always well known in the countryside that the Roman Catholic priest drives the best German motor car in town! There is so much I could say here but I would be repeating myself. There are a lot of dishonest people there too-watch out for your wallet! They will steal anything not nailed down!

4) uncritical stance against the church

Yes, I agree, they seem to be obsessed by the church as if it will give them all the answers!

Not enough cash.

It is the way they spend it in the first place.
donomar 1 | 23  
8 Aug 2007 /  #11
I could mention a few thing here. One of the worst things about Poland and the Poles is that they never accept responsibility for anything.

this guy knows what he is talking about . well put. Kudos!

... and then again if you asked a pole about their vices he would blame the comunist years, which takes us back to your first point, that is never accept responsibility...
Wroclaw 44 | 5,386  
8 Aug 2007 /  #12
Michal,

As usual. I disagree with [your] post #10

Your profile of Polish people might fit the older generation, but certainly not the younger one.
ola123  
8 Aug 2007 /  #13
poverty, unemployment, low level of life - high prices comparing to wages, corruption
Michal - | 1,865  
8 Aug 2007 /  #14
low level of life

I have heard that life expectancy is falling in Poland at the moment. I noticed when visiting grave yards in Poland that many old people who were alive at the time of say, the First World War, had long lives but I notice that among those born around the 1950's life is very short. My friends lived in Gdansk next to the huge cemetery there (near Orunia) and I went for a walk-row after row of young dead men, almost like a military cemetery, all their dates of birth were after mine even.
ola123  
8 Aug 2007 /  #15
Interesting, I never thought in that way, comparing current level and lenght of lives from the past. I was more thinking about level of lives in EU currently. Poles have wages about 4 times less than western countries of EU and we have prices of flats and homes in big cities higher than in Berlin, one of most expensive "electric drift" (sorry dont know the proper word in english) in EU, as well as petrol and cars, not to mention the highest taxes, which take 40% of our wages brutto.
Michal - | 1,865  
8 Aug 2007 /  #16
yes, I can understand and appreciate the stresses and strains of modern living.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,499  
8 Aug 2007 /  #17
Old-fashioned business laws that hinder development and promote bureaucracy.

It appears to me they are getting the grants etc but they need experienced business- minded folk to manage it. Why they can't "do an Ireland" and drop the base rate for business tax. If Ireland can do it on the edge of Europe surely Poland can do it, look at the logistics for distribution, networking etc - ideal !
OP magda09 1 | 54  
8 Aug 2007 /  #18
it is not govt. i think, it is truth that poles were never best in business :). Because i have seen most poles scared to commit in it, or most things - unfortunately
slwkk 2 | 228  
8 Aug 2007 /  #19
i was interested to know what you think is our biggest problem! our biggest negative ... our worse aspect ! feel free to share :)

1. our current gov
2. position of church in Poland
OP magda09 1 | 54  
8 Aug 2007 /  #20
position of church in Poland

church and priest including Pope and Nun are non-existant in bible, gosple or christianity...if you want, i can proove it :)
slwkk 2 | 228  
8 Aug 2007 /  #21
.if you want, i can proove it :)

I believe you :-) In my opinion position of church is too high. Today church is involved in everything in Poland, including politics which isn't good...
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
8 Aug 2007 /  #22
Believe none of it, the church, the bible, the preachers, their simply following something that was written by a bunch of people who were board and decided to write a story book. Its the same for all religion, its for people who feel they need guidance instead of directing htemselves
hello 22 | 891  
8 Aug 2007 /  #23
Another big problem - Poland is losing its own identity and copies too much from the western, "plastic" cultures (consumption, relativism). As the pope Benedict said, Poland is now in a big danger of becoming a country of non-believers who believe only in materialistic stuff (similar to Czech people).
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
8 Aug 2007 /  #24
a country of non-believers

theres nothing wrong of that, maybe the polish people would like to be let of the leash they are attached to called religion!!!!
hello 22 | 891  
8 Aug 2007 /  #25
I disagree and think it's losing faith is Poland's big problem.
southern 75 | 7,096  
8 Aug 2007 /  #26
Polish moustache.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
8 Aug 2007 /  #27
I disagree and think it's losing faith is Poland's big problem.

Poland does not need faith in any god to make itself better it needs to deal with real life problems and concerns :)
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
8 Aug 2007 /  #28
it is not govt. i think, it is truth that poles were never best in business :).

I believe that by best you actually meant good, yes? Well, coming from Greater Poland I would like to say bollocks!

Another big problem - Poland is losing its own identity and copies too much from the western, "plastic" cultures (consumption, relativism).

The side effect of globalization is that people affected by it at one point tend to go back to their roots, so the situation isn't that dramatic as one would think.

I believe you :-) In my opinion position of church is too high. Today church is involved in everything in Poland, including politics which isn't good...

By everything you mean....?

I could mention a few thing here. One of the worst things about Poland and the Poles is that they never accept responsibility for anything. It does not matter what it is, they always find an external force to blame. In my day it was always Churchill who was responsible for the Russians or the weather!

You are very lucky Michal, this is your one in the life time opportunity to convince a Pole that what happened with Poland after WWII was actually our fault. I'm looking forward hearing your story.

As for Poland’s biggest problem... Well we could name things like:

Corruption on many levels.

Old-fashioned business laws that hinder development and promote bureaucracy.

poverty, unemployment, low level of life - high prices comparing to wages, corruption

level of lives in EU currently. Poles have wages about 4 times less than western countries of EU and we have prices of flats and homes in big cities higher than in Berlin, one of most expensive "electric drift" (sorry dont know the proper word in english) in EU, as well as petrol and cars, not to mention the highest taxes, which take 40% of our wages brutto.

and also top it with police, health and judicatory system problems, bla bla bla... but it basically all comes down to one thing, that we inherited a big mess from our previous system and even 17 years after the fall of communism nobody knows how to effectively deal with it. KaczyƄski brothers don't know how to do it, Tusk and the rest of opposition don't know how to do it, I don't know it as well as you lot don't. Still, comparing Poland pre my trip to Albion and now I definitely see a big change. All is going in the right direction. It will only take some time and we will be up there with the rest of Europe. And when that time comes… we will ban socks and sandals combination in EU!!! Ohhh ze Germans are going to be sooo furious! Wooo hooooo! ;P

Polish moustache.

NEVER!!!
ogorek - | 165  
8 Aug 2007 /  #29
I have heard that life expectancy is falling in Poland at the moment. I noticed when visiting grave yards in Poland that many old people who were alive at the time of say, the First World War, had long lives but I notice that among those born around the 1950's life is very short. My friends lived in Gdansk next to the huge cemetery there (near Orunia) and I went for a walk-row after row of young dead men, almost like a military cemetery, all their dates of birth were after mine even.

Ok. 1945 Poland has just been almost completely destroyed. It has been betrayed - raped - abandoned - f****d up the *ss - every family has lost a loved one or more - brainwashed by communisom - cities in ruins - all hope and dignity gone - all once proud citizens now broken people - and in the 50's people begin to die younger in larger numbers....

...well no f****ig sh*t Einstein !
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
8 Aug 2007 /  #30
4) uncritical stance against the church

Rubbish! If you want to start a conversation with a stranger in Poland there are three topics that will help you break the ice. First one being weather, second one: how all politicians are filthy thieves and the third one, how all priests are filthy thieves. Where did you get the “uncritical stance against the church” thing from?

Archives - 2005-2009 / News / Poland biggest problemArchived