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Why Poles will never belong in England


Lyzko
30 Jul 2011  #31
Englishman's apparently blissfully unaware of the age-old battle raging since time immemorial "Nature or Nurture?" Well, the verdict seems to be on the side of the latter. In addition, we are humans, not dogs or horses-:) Nonethless though, animals. Some of us really act like it too LOL
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #32
BS Wroclaw. Traveling will never change what or who you are, if anything it might even strengthen your national feeling, nostalgia you see. Same is true for Brits living in Poland and everyone else that ever experienced a life of immigrant, you out of all people should know better. As long as that national feeling is not taken to extremes we can all enjoy the good life retaining our national pride and cultivating the culture of our ancestors no matter where we are at the moment. It’s not like you can change your nationality at a whim even if you happen to hold the passport of your adapted homeland.
opts 10 | 260
30 Jul 2011  #33
ENGLISHMAN
I do not know why would anyone would want to belong and be part of a retarded society. Once was a great society.
Lyzko
30 Jul 2011  #34
PUHlleeeaaase, let's not compare Englishman with the same lot who gave us Shakespeare & Co....
That's the real insult here-:)))))
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #35
I do not know why would anyone would want to belong and be part of a retarded society.

How would you know? Are you part of that society?

Traveling will never change what or who you are, if anything it might even strengthen your national feeling, nostalgia you see.

Not necessarily.

. It’s not like you can change your nationality at a whim

Do you know many people who emigrate 'at a whim'? For most people it is a life-changing decision.
andrijworoniev
30 Jul 2011  #36
Just a side note: a lot of third-world nations have a moral right to come and live in the UK as they wish - we are talking hundreds of millions of people, inhabitants of former UK colonies, exploited by Brits. Unless the Brits would like to compensate them in cash for the ages of abuse and thievery.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #37
Not necessarily.

The most it ever does is that it broadens our horizon.

Do you know many people who emigrate 'at a whim'? For most people it is a life-changing decision.

No most emigrate for economic reasons for a short term; at least that’s their plan in the beginning. You’re confusing Poles with Brits who have moved for entirely different reasons be it a love of their life or business.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #38
The most it ever does is that it broadens our horizon.

And shows us that nationality is merely a false construct.

No most emigrate for economic reasons for a short term; at least that’s their plan in the beginning.

And still a life changing decision, no matter how long or gradual that change is.
legend 3 | 664
30 Jul 2011  #39
Just a side note: a lot of third-world nations have a moral right to come and live in the UK as they wish - we are talking hundreds of millions of people, inhabitants of former UK colonies, exploited by Brits. Unless the Brits would like to compensate them in cash for the ages of abuse and thievery.

I think that the Brits and all countries that took 3rd world folk as slaves should pay.
All those fat slob billionares in the US could easily dish money over.
All the money spend on wars and terror could easily make their lives easier.
It goes on and on.

Instead these imperalist faggots are bombing third world countries to oblivion.
Lyzko
30 Jul 2011  #40
Right on, Andrei! Furthermore, as everyone knows, Brits included in this, with succesfull and extensive colonization, comes the risk of those from formerly disadvantaged colonies to want to come to Great Britain in search of that 'better life'-:) Britons never wanted the sun to set on their empire, correct? Well kiddies, it has, and it's been a while. Britons always wanted to colonize the world. Moral of the story? If you wish for something, you just might get it!
southern 75 | 7,096
30 Jul 2011  #41
Slavic genes will give an attractiveness to english people.
Lyzko
30 Jul 2011  #42
....as with US jeans to Slavic people, yuck-yuck LOL

Sorry, sartorial tastes notwithstanding.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #43
And shows us that nationality is merely a false construct.

To the Globalist, perhaps but most take pride of who they are.

And still a life changing decision, no matter how long or gradual that change is.

It’s a life changing decision only if you uproot, you don’t see many Poles seeking British passport with the exception of those who have good career or got married and stated family life there but vest majority still hold on to that strictly economic aspect, make money and come back.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #44
To the Globalist, perhaps but most take pride of who they are.

Most immigrants are just interested in making a new life.

It’s a life changing decision only if you uproot, you don’t see many Poles seeking British passport

Wait and see - as of this year the first wave of migrants is eligible to apply.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #45
Most immigrants are just interested in making a new life.

You’re in Sudan now, are you seeking Sudanese passport? Besides if you’re such a Globalist who do you root for during the international match? If not for English the life of the Globalist is a sad life indeed.

Wait and see - as of this year the first wave of migrants is eligible to apply.

Let’s do just that before making a rash statement. Even if it turns out the way you think Poles have this uncanny ability to adapt yet still hold on to their roots no matter where they are; Saturday school, dance clubs, youth organizations, native language media radio tv etc. Contrary to your belief national pride is not so bad after all.
SERAFINA - | 1
30 Jul 2011  #46
Look it don't matter if your English or polish you are still human, jobs a job and we all need money to live, they are not like "Nigerians" at all they are better they will do the jobs English people are to damn lazy to do ... so for your post mate that's just wrong :)
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #47
English or polish you are still human

Still you try to show your superiority by having english capitalized and Polish in a small letter, a little respect please. :)

....as with US jeans to Slavic people, yuck-yuck LOL

Yap, Polish booty can’t fill that extra piece of material Americans put in that area.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
30 Jul 2011  #48
Ask Queen Elizabeth. She'll definitely prefer Poles as her citizens.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
30 Jul 2011  #49
Steady on Nomad, you're ruining your chances of that honorary knighthood. Perhaps you will have to settle for the dumbest post of the day award.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #50
Besides if you’re such a Globalist who do you root for during the international match? If not for English the life of the Globalist is a sad life indeed.

Sad or filled with the variety of life. And free of preconceptions about people's motivations for settling elsewhere. For every migrant there is a different story.

Poles have this uncanny ability to adapt yet still hold on to their roots no matter where they are; Saturday school, dance clubs, youth organizations, native language media radio tv etc.

Some. Others after only one generation don't know how to say proszę or dziękuję.

they are not like "Nigerians" at all

Are Nigerians like "Nigerians"? It's a huge and varied country.

Perhaps you will have to settle for the dumbest post of the day award.

He can share it with Midas who thinks racism is something only black people do to whites!
landora - | 199
30 Jul 2011  #51
Poles can never be English. A Pole born in England is a Pole. If a dog is born in a stable that doesn't make it a horse.

And thank God for that! At least there is no danger of Polish girls resembling horses!

Seriously, Englishman, you're a moron. You country is full of people from all over the world, look at the streets of London. Why are you so bothered about the Poles? And maybe reas a bit about the history of your own country?

So what about the Scottish? Are they okay to come to england or maybe also not "white" enough? You would be funny if you weren't scary.
modafinil - | 418
30 Jul 2011  #52
They are slavic catholics, we don't want them to 'blend in', we don't want foreigners subverting and 'multiculturalising' our national culture and we don't want slavic genes in the British gene pool.

I use the royal "we" sometimes. In this case you need to have stated it as a personal opinion or point out the "we" is you and some of your mates...

The women don't blend in, if anything they are outstanding. If they want to mix their slavic genes in with English ones they'll do so without much effort. You think that all the various immigrants are going to club together to create a 'masterculture' that will somehow blot out England's way of life do you. I'm genuinely

wondering what part of their culture you believe is encroaching on England's. And just how does something like religious belief alter skin colour?

When people visit UK, they do not know if they are in UK or Pakistan.

Those people are as dim as the OP.

Ask Queen Elizabeth. She'll definitely prefer Poles as her citizens.

I just asked her a moment ago. She said she is more concerned about when Will's will make her a great-grandmother.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
30 Jul 2011  #53
Steady on Nomad, you're ruining your chances of that honorary knighthood. Perhaps you will have to settle for the dumbest post of the day award.

Seriously. If Poles were citizens of England, long time ago, it could be Republic of England.

Anyway, leave Englishmen alone. They are rare historical ancient pieces in England now, if any left, to be preserved.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #54
Unless the Brits would like to compensate them in cash for the ages of abuse and thievery.

Or bill them for the roads, hospital, schools, universities that miraculously appeared during the years of British governance.

I just asked her a moment ago. She said she is more concerned about when Will's will make her a great-grandmother

You were lucky to catch her. When I called she'd popped out to Wetherspoons for a quick one before Corrie starts.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
30 Jul 2011  #55
never been to England and not planning to, either.. If there was no any border, if there was total travel freedom to everywhere, would anyone be living there in that island England?
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #56
If there was no any border, if there was total travel freedom to everywhere, would anyone be living there in that island England?

Yes. Probably far more than now.

never been to England

This much is self-evident.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
30 Jul 2011  #57
Yes. Probably far more than now.

You saying this based on the richness of England? Or, beauty of island? (when there weren't borders, don't forget, the wealth distributions would be more homogeneous.)
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #58
For every migrant there is a different story.

Exactly, variety a spice of life, that’s the first lesson a globetrotter should learn. Nothing wrong with taking pride in your roots or even with expressing one’s national pride once in a while as long as it’s not taken into extremes. The Globalists should concentrate more on teaching tolerance to push their agenda instead of taking away the one thing that defines each and every one of us. I for one am glad that family ties are stronger than any ideology.

Some. Others after only one generation don't know how to say proszę or dziękuję.

Nothing wrong with that either, if the adapted homeland suits you.

Or bill them for the roads, hospital, schools, universities that miraculously appeared during the years of British governance.

Ah! National pride at last, there’s hope for you still old chap.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
30 Jul 2011  #59
Exactly, variety a spice of life, that’s the first lesson a globetrotter should learn. Nothing wrong with taking pride in your roots or even with expressing one’s national pride once in a while as long as it’s not taken into extremes.

Nothing wrong with that unless you focus on it to the point beyong which it becaomes unhealthy.

The Globalist should concentrate more on teaching tolerance to push their agenda instead of taking away the one thing that defines each and every one of us

What 'agenda' is that?

Nothing wrong with that either, if the adapted homeland suits you.

Exactly. But can you call someone with Polish grandparents who doesn't speak a word of the language, has never visited Poland, has no interest in Polish life and culture and no real ties with the place in any way Polish?
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
30 Jul 2011  #60
Nothing wrong with that unless you focus on it to the point beyong which it becaomes unhealthy.

As with everything else, moderation is the key and most people live up to that.

What 'agenda' is that?

As if the national pride should be scuffed upon and as if it’s the greatest evil out there.

But can you call someone with Polish grandparents who doesn't speak a word of the language, has never visited Poland, has no interest in Polish life and culture and no real ties with the place in any way Polish?

At that point, he himself does not define himself as Polish and no one any wiser.


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